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Post by wstalcup on Sept 28, 2021 15:37:02 GMT
made my own "Scottish Targe" (Leather wrapped shield) for those who gave me good advice.. Im sorry I didn't listen to you! LOL (I will on my next shield) anywho here it is! Its 24" across and about 7 lbs (which I've read is about right for this type of shield) I used Veg Tan Leather from weaver and 3/4 inch plywood.. also bought this kit (mainly just for the handle but wanted the boss too) www.etsy.com/listing/819345077/viking-shield-starter-kit-make-your-own  It is by no means historically accurate (i make my own history LOL) total cost wasn't so bad a little less than $200, i tried stamping designs...it came out... ok..except for the fact, the shield looks like it has 4 oatmeal cookies on it! LOL   I did buy some dye, but the dye is too dark,, so im currently "Tanning" and "hardening" the leather by using the Sun! I would love to see how it would hold up in combat..but alas, that of course would ruin it... anyway, Im now onto making leather armor! Thanks all! |
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Post by pgandy on Sept 29, 2021 1:13:32 GMT
Congratulations on your shield. Consider it a learning experience. Below is the one I made. I can’t remember the exact price, just over $50 I think. It’s a 23” centre hold, ½” thick, 5 lb. shield. It was made with the intent of one time use and not to play around with in multiple events so it’s not as robust as could be. It handles about like a buckler. If I do it again I’ll go with a 16 ga. boss to save weight, that one is 14. The rope is to keep the edge from fraying. That must work because as many times as I’ve rubbed the shield against a wall the linen covering it would have holes in it by now.   |
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Post by paulmuaddib on Sept 29, 2021 2:32:19 GMT
Looks good to me. Keep us updated on the armor.
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Post by wstalcup on Sept 29, 2021 15:52:51 GMT
Congratulations on your shield. Consider it a learning experience. Below is the one I made. I can’t remember the exact price, just over $50 I think. It’s a 23” centre hold, ½” thick, 5 lb. shield. It was made with the intent of one time use and not to play around with in multiple events so it’s not as robust as could be. It handles about like a buckler. If I do it again I’ll go with a 16 ga. boss to save weight, that one is 14. The rope is to keep the edge from fraying. That must work because as many times as I’ve rubbed the shield against a wall the linen covering it would have holes in it by now. $50! wow.. is that real leather? i've never seen a rope edge shield..great idea!  |
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Post by wstalcup on Sept 29, 2021 15:58:03 GMT
Looks good to me. Keep us updated on the armor. will do! thanks! i've already been practicing on leather strips..apparently when baking leather there is fine line between hardening it and making it brittle. I plan on making something like this... I have cardboard cut outs based on it, but so far it doesn't seem like I will be able to raise my arms when wearing the leather..I realize the armor pieces are suppose to pivot, just got to figure it all out first!  |
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Post by pgandy on Sept 29, 2021 16:36:31 GMT
Congratulations on your shield. Consider it a learning experience. Below is the one I made. I can’t remember the exact price, just over $50 I think. It’s a 23” centre hold, ½” thick, 5 lb. shield. It was made with the intent of one time use and not to play around with in multiple events so it’s not as robust as could be. It handles about like a buckler. If I do it again I’ll go with a 16 ga. boss to save weight, that one is 14. The rope is to keep the edge from fraying. That must work because as many times as I’ve rubbed the shield against a wall the linen covering it would have holes in it by now. $50! wow.. is that real leather? i've never seen a rope edge shield..great idea! :) No leather. It’s of linen, I’ve forgotten the weight, that I had on hand for another project. The shield was made for encountering machetes. The face should stop a strike while the edge is designed to trap a blade. I tested with a machete and a XIV sword with excess materials while under construction and not on the shield itself. It trapped a machete’s blade while the XIV blade cut into the edge and then was promptly spit out. |
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Post by wstalcup on Sept 29, 2021 16:52:29 GMT
$50! wow.. is that real leather? i've never seen a rope edge shield..great idea! No leather. It’s of linen, I’ve forgotten the weight, that I had on hand for another project. The shield was made for encountering machetes. The face should stop a strike while the edge is designed to trap a blade. I tested with a machete and a XIV sword with excess materials while under construction and not on the shield itself. It trapped a machete’s blade while the XIV blade cut into the edge and then was promptly spit out. I see! and possibly even disarming your opponent? (like a swordbreaker) last question! have you ever posted your entire collections of weapons and armor? I'd bet it would be quite the sight! take care! |
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Post by pgandy on Sept 29, 2021 17:15:50 GMT
No leather. It’s of linen, I’ve forgotten the weight, that I had on hand for another project. The shield was made for encountering machetes. The face should stop a strike while the edge is designed to trap a blade. I tested with a machete and a XIV sword with excess materials while under construction and not on the shield itself. It trapped a machete’s blade while the XIV blade cut into the edge and then was promptly spit out. I see! and possibly even disarming your opponent? (like a swordbreaker) last question! have you ever posted your entire collections of weapons and armor? I'd bet it would be quite the sight! :) take care! Never my entire collection. |
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Post by joe_meadmaker on Sept 30, 2021 2:26:17 GMT
That looks pretty good wstalcup! I did a shield fairly recently and stretched rawhide over the whole thing with a little bit of hide glue to help secure it. I use leather for the arm strap on the back just like you did. I'll often get a cheap leather belt, cut it in half, and glue the halves together with contact cement. This makes a really thick and firm strap. Just need to make sure it's the exact right size for your arm. For a handle I usually look around for a nice looking gate or barn door handle.
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Post by wstalcup on Oct 9, 2021 13:28:10 GMT
That looks pretty good wstalcup! I did a shield fairly recently and stretched rawhide over the whole thing with a little bit of hide glue to help secure it. I use leather for the arm strap on the back just like you did. I'll often get a cheap leather belt, cut it in half, and glue the halves together with contact cement. This makes a really thick and firm strap. Just need to make sure it's the exact right size for your arm. For a handle I usually look around for a nice looking gate or barn door handle. very cool! I would like to see a pic of it, if not too much trouble! |
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Post by joe_meadmaker on Oct 10, 2021 1:35:06 GMT
Sure! No problem at all. I don't have one at the moment, but I'll take one and post it the next time I have a chance.
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Post by joe_meadmaker on Dec 6, 2021 18:36:48 GMT
Sorry for the delay posting some pics. I made an adjustment to the shield (increased the length of the arm strap) and forgot to take pictures when it was done. Here it is:   This shield actually just got done with its first road test. I posted a video in the thread I started on slings and shields: sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/63864/slings-shields. |
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Post by wstalcup on Dec 28, 2021 15:54:32 GMT
Sorry for the delay posting some pics. I made an adjustment to the shield (increased the length of the arm strap) and forgot to take pictures when it was done. Here it is: This shield actually just got done with its first road test. I posted a video in the thread I started on slings and shields: sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/63864/slings-shields. this is really awesome! except for the fact that it makes my shield look like crap in comparison! LOL |
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Post by joe_meadmaker on Dec 28, 2021 16:03:13 GMT
Thanks! Although I have to disagree. I think yours would win a beauty contest between the two. :)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 16:28:46 GMT
Man that's wicked. I wish I had the know how to make such a shield. Was it difficult to make?
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Post by joe_meadmaker on Dec 28, 2021 20:30:57 GMT
Was it difficult to make? Not sure if that question was for me, but I'll throw out a quick run-though. It was not difficult, just a lot of steps. - I cut out a circle of 3/4 inch plywood. Note, I'm going to make another one of these at some point and step down the plywood to 5/8" thick. I think that will be sufficient and get the weight down a bit. But thickness should be determined by the intended use.
- I cut out a piece of leather the same side as the shield and glued it down on the back of the plywood. I used hide glue, but anything strong should work.
- I softened up a piece of rawhide in the bathtub. I stretched it over the shield by hand, gluing the front face and edges with hide glue. I also temporarily tacked it down with small finishing nails to hold it in place (this was done on the back where the rawhide is folded over). I only pounded the nails into the wood enough to hold the rawhide.
- Once the rawhide was dry, I removed the nails and drilled holes in the same locations for carriage bolts. This was to make sure the raw hide didn't go anywhere, although I don't think there was much chance of that. But I also like the ring of bolts this made on the front of the shield. I used pretty big washers on the back to hold the folded rawhide down.
- On the back I made padding for the arm by alternating layers of linen and cotton (denim) fabric. 15 or 16 layers total. Then I put a piece of leather over the top and attached it down with screws around the edge.
- The handle is a cast iron handle for a barn door. I did need to cut out some 1/2 inch wooden spacers when putting it on because of the extra thickness from the padding.
- The arm straps are made from (fairly cheap) leather belts. I usually get a belt and cut it in half, then glue to two pieces together with contact cement. This makes a much stronger and stiffer piece of leather going over the forearm. I used two straps on this shield because it was around 14 pounds, and wanted the extra support. The straps are held down with three screws on each side.
- Last was a stencil and a can of spray paint to put the slinger guy on the front.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Dec 28, 2021 20:47:13 GMT
I found a ton of youtube tutorials.
I looked up 'Shield+tutorial+making'
Tons of ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 4:30:39 GMT
Was it difficult to make? Not sure if that question was for me, but I'll throw out a quick run-though. It was not difficult, just a lot of steps. - I cut out a circle of 3/4 inch plywood. Note, I'm going to make another one of these at some point and step down the plywood to 5/8" thick. I think that will be sufficient and get the weight down a bit. But thickness should be determined by the intended use.
- I cut out a piece of leather the same side as the shield and glued it down on the back of the plywood. I used hide glue, but anything strong should work.
- I softened up a piece of rawhide in the bathtub. I stretched it over the shield by hand, gluing the front face and edges with hide glue. I also temporarily tacked it down with small finishing nails to hold it in place (this was done on the back where the rawhide is folded over). I only pounded the nails into the wood enough to hold the rawhide.
- Once the rawhide was dry, I removed the nails and drilled holes in the same locations for carriage bolts. This was to make sure the raw hide didn't go anywhere, although I don't think there was much chance of that. But I also like the ring of bolts this made on the front of the shield. I used pretty big washers on the back to hold the folded rawhide down.
- On the back I made padding for the arm by alternating layers of linen and cotton (denim) fabric. 15 or 16 layers total. Then I put a piece of leather over the top and attached it down with screws around the edge.
- The handle is a cast iron handle for a barn door. I did need to cut out some 1/2 inch wooden spacers when putting it on because of the extra thickness from the padding.
- The arm straps are made from (fairly cheap) leather belts. I usually get a belt and cut it in half, then glue to two pieces together with contact cement. This makes a much stronger and stiffer piece of leather going over the forearm. I used two straps on this shield because it was around 14 pounds, and wanted the extra support. The straps are held down with three screws on each side.
- Last was a stencil and a can of spray paint to put the slinger guy on the front.
On one hand sounds like a lot of work, but it sounds very possible for me to attempt. Thanks for sharing, I might have to build one someday |
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