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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 12:35:04 GMT
Greetings all......as you can tell from the subject line, I'm looking into purchasing my first real, functional sword. I have nice looking wall-mount type, but you can't really hit anything with it and expect it to stand up, so on the wall it shall stay. I've done a little bit of looking, and read several reviews on here in the last couple of days.....I really like the looks of the DSA Norman, as well as the squire. I looked at the Albion site too, and there are some nice looking weapons in both the squire and signature series. Are the Squire line swords also peened, or only in the Signature series (the Albion site is restricted on the LAN at work, unfortunately.)? I guess what I'm looking for are just a handful of recommendations....I'm looking for a 1 hander right now...then possibly extending into others. Something not too flashy....functional and serious looking. Something historically accurate as well. Any and all recommendations, comments, or general pointers are more than welcome, as I'm new to the ownership game and look forward to learning all I can. Thanks! ~J
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 13:32:44 GMT
...Something not too flashy....functional and serious looking... Have a look at the ' Lionheart Sword by Hanwei' A nice Hanwei, in no way flashy and very functional, though still a nice sword, fast and lightweighted.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 14:03:27 GMT
Gen2's swords have a wonderfully utilitarian look to them. Though some may say that their swords are a bit 'plain'.
me? I love it.
YMMV
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 14:05:01 GMT
Hello, J. The Squire swords are also peened. They are assembled just like the pricier ones, but with simpler fittings and blunt edges, though they can be sharpened. Albion used to do this for about $25, but I'm not sure of the current cost.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 19:10:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 22:51:56 GMT
I just got my first sword and one of the best pieces of advice for helping to decide which one was a question - What do you want to do with this sword? Display, backyard cutting, going 1 on 1 with a friend? I would also recommend looking at www.myarmoury.com/feature_oakeshott2.htmlto get an idea of the historical type you like the most. That might help narrow down your choice. Good luck - you are in for a fun ride! Buff
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 2:25:30 GMT
Excellent....thanks for all the input so far. ;D I can tell this is one of those "slippery slope" type hobbies......which is always fun. I've definitely got a lot to think about....though with the ball already rolling it'll be fun to exercise the patience required to make an informed decision. lol Lord,what am I getting myself into. Again, thanks for all the info so far,and feel free to keep it coming! ~Jaufres
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 23:55:34 GMT
The two basic question is what are you gonna use the sword for and what do you want to spend on this sword? Well there is also the question of what kind of sword do you like as well...but that might not be something you know yet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 8:56:47 GMT
You mentioned Albion squire lines, if you have that kind of money then don't go with cheaper stuff. I lost a lot of money selling windlasses I wasn't happy with and I was lucky that my dealer returned me the money for my bent Gen2. After I bought Del Tin sword and realized that it is so much better then anything from Windlass, Gen2 or Hanwei, there isn't much chance that I will ever again buy something by these cheaper brands. (well, except my Hanwei Godfred, but it's so pretty... )
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Post by kidcasanova on Sept 5, 2008 10:05:31 GMT
Don't Del Tin's have 0% distal taper, though?
I do like the look of their 2123....but for the money, I'd just get the VA Practical Arming sword, custom tuned by Gus Trim for, well, less money.
If you're looking at Albion Squire line, you might want to check out Atrims as well.
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Post by brotherbanzai on Sept 5, 2008 23:26:08 GMT
If you can afford an Albion get one. There are some other makers producing some very nice swords for a good bit less money if you want to play around with some different types before deciding what you really like. But if the price doesn't bother you, you'd be hard pressed to find fault with an Albion sword.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2008 6:20:39 GMT
Well...the Albion Squire line is only like 100 bucks more than a DSA.....other than the fittings, what is different with the squire line vs. Gen 2 that justifies the 400 dollar price difference?
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Post by YlliwCir on Sept 6, 2008 8:50:39 GMT
The quality of the Albion is the difference. The one I have is very solidly built and you stated something not to flashy, functional and serious, definately fits that discription.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2008 11:36:27 GMT
Don't Del Tin's have 0% distal taper, though? I do like the look of their 2123....but for the money, I'd just get the VA Practical Arming sword, custom tuned by Gus Trim for, well, less money. If you're looking at Albion Squire line, you might want to check out Atrims as well. I'm not sure about the taper, but some of them are really nicely balanced and depending on the design they can be quite stiff... Heat treatment is excellent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2008 4:17:19 GMT
Well...the Albion Squire line is only like 100 bucks more than a DSA.....other than the fittings, what is different with the squire line vs. Gen 2 that justifies the 400 dollar price difference? Do you mean next gen? Gen 2 = company owned by clyde hollis. Next gen = a line of albion swords .
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Post by YlliwCir on Sept 7, 2008 5:38:22 GMT
Ahhh, that's where that number came from. In that case, I'll second Jaufres's question.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2008 16:27:59 GMT
Yes...sorry, I meant Next Gen. Forgive the newness of my sword knowledge brain....I'll get all the names sorted eventually. ;D But yes....I was asking the differences between the Squire line Albion and the Next Gen Albion. He he....
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Post by kidcasanova on Sept 8, 2008 5:54:12 GMT
Well, variety, for one.
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Post by YlliwCir on Sept 8, 2008 6:15:57 GMT
I think that's a good point, Kid. You got me thinking tho, Jaufres. Anyone know what kind of edge Ablion puts on the squire line if you use their sharpening service? If the same as the next gen, would be an option worth considering.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2008 6:34:26 GMT
They use a secondary bevel, though I don't know if they convex them at all or not. If they do them on a belt grinder, they'll have a bit of covex to them, in any event. However, I'm not sure how the edge is applied.
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