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Post by pgandy on May 27, 2021 12:02:41 GMT
WOW! What a turnoff! Thanks for sharing. Have in contacted Scorpion? I did. I am hopeful but we will see how it all goes, they will replace it, as well as let me keep the old one,, which I asked for in order to contrast them later. Your video is a good leverage point but you should have contacted Scorpion before posting the video.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on May 28, 2021 19:24:12 GMT
Gatorade bottles are difficult to cut but any sword that bends permanently from a bad cut on them is too soft, in my opinion. A differentially hardened sword or a 1045 blade can expect damage from that kind of impact but a springy blade should just flex, maybe roll an edge.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 22:02:46 GMT
Gatorade bottles are difficult to cut but any sword that bends permanently from a bad cut on them is too soft, in my opinion. A differentially hardened sword or a 1045 blade can expect damage from that kind of impact but a springy blade should just flex, maybe roll an edge. Well, this makes me think to myself "at least my cheap long sword might be more resistent to shattering in cold weather". Gotta be positive right? Cause I bent that sword on a Gatorade bottle 😂 I remember reading that warriors took two swords, one springy one and one soft one, to be a tough back up Which is weird cause when I hit hard targets it sinks right in
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Post by tsmspace on May 30, 2021 5:52:17 GMT
Gatorade bottles are difficult to cut but any sword that bends permanently from a bad cut on them is too soft, in my opinion. A differentially hardened sword or a 1045 blade can expect damage from that kind of impact but a springy blade should just flex, maybe roll an edge. I was playing with my balaur arms 14th century longsword today *(the one no one likes, because it's too floppy, the one with the fuller),,, and balaur arms for the win. THat sword feels whacky sometimes, but it's a powerful cutter, and never leaves me wanting. The only times I don't like it is in my bedroom, when I move it around like one does in a bedroom, but outside, using it for proper posture and targets, the only problem is that I'm not used to the length, and I keep hitting the ground. It cuts really well and although is floppy is plenty durable, I keep hitting rocks on the ground and it doesn't seem to matter. I have a lot of confidence in the replacement scorpion will send me, though, I am getting excited, but there is a caveat. Basically, my take on scorpion swords is that there are a number of people there, with various levels of experience and commitment. They are making a lot of swords, because it doesn't take that many swords to be a lot, and they just don't know what to do when something does go wrong, because technically they don't have proper training, they are figuring out a lot on their own. So,, they can make some swords really well, but that is not the norm for every batch. Personally, I want them to be successful, I think there is a place for a good sword, and I think a lot of people would be properly set up for their sword experience from them,,,, IF the sword shows up and is solid and stays sharp. I also like your reviews of honshu,, because despite their downsides,, they have some real upsides for the prices. Also, they are through budk, and budk is no questions asked replacements whenever they can. Also,, I love budk. yes, the stuff is cheap, but if you understand what cheap is,,, the reality is, lots of people can honestly get their proper sword experience from a 20$ piece of steel. I consider some cheap blades to be indispensable. Also, stainless steel works in the kitchen, so you can have your sword experience in the kitchen with stainless steel blades and never sweat the maintenance.
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Post by pgandy on May 30, 2021 12:54:38 GMT
“THat sword feels whacky sometimes, but it's a powerful cutter, and never leaves me wanting.”
I’ve found a flexible blade doesn’t impede cutting much if at all. Centrifugal force tends to straighten the blade out. The real problem comes with the thrust. And ya, they don’t lend themselves to confidence building.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on May 30, 2021 13:18:03 GMT
Usually a flexible blade meant it's thin, and being thin can cut very good.
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Post by Kane Shen on May 31, 2021 16:22:31 GMT
If you cut those type of bottles near the neck, the plastic is especially thick and tough. Cutting in the middle of the bottle portion is much more forgiving, but still a lot tougher than just a normal water bottle. Try the POM pomegranate juice bottles, oh those are challenging with the hard and deflective spherical body.
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Post by Kane Shen on May 31, 2021 16:24:39 GMT
Usually a flexible blade meant it's thin, and being thin can cut very good. Yeah but when we measure the thickness we only measure the thickest part of a given cross section, which is typically the central ridge, or the edges of the fuller. Edge geometry matters a lot besides the thickness alone.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on May 31, 2021 17:10:56 GMT
If you cut those type of bottles near the neck, the plastic is especially thick and tough. Cutting in the middle of the bottle portion is much more forgiving, but still a lot tougher than just a normal water bottle. Try the POM pomegranate juice bottles, oh those are challenging with the hard and deflective spherical body. Almost futile with anything less than a thin, fast two-hander. A lot of my thicker short swords just can't do targets the average katana can do easily.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on May 31, 2021 17:24:54 GMT
Usually a flexible blade meant it's thin, and being thin can cut very good. Yeah but when we measure the thickness we only measure the thickest part of a given cross section, which is typically the central ridge, or the edges of the fuller. Edge geometry matters a lot besides the thickness alone. I sharpen and modify the edge geometry of all my blades, so this factor is out of the equation. :)
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Post by Kane Shen on May 31, 2021 18:58:01 GMT
Try the POM pomegranate juice bottles, oh those are challenging with the hard and deflective spherical body. Almost futile with anything less than a thin, fast two-hander. A lot of my thicker short swords just can't do targets the average katana can do easily. Yeah it's challenging to cut with short swords due to the lack of leverage and tip speed. I do find the Landsknecht Emporium Gustav a very competent cutter despite the being shorter than 20". The board blade with the full flat ground really helps.
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Post by Kane Shen on May 31, 2021 18:58:40 GMT
Yeah but when we measure the thickness we only measure the thickest part of a given cross section, which is typically the central ridge, or the edges of the fuller. Edge geometry matters a lot besides the thickness alone. I sharpen and modify the edge geometry of all my blades, so this factor is out of the equation. Yeah it pays off to acquire the knowhow.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on May 31, 2021 19:56:54 GMT
Yeah but when we measure the thickness we only measure the thickest part of a given cross section, which is typically the central ridge, or the edges of the fuller. Edge geometry matters a lot besides the thickness alone. I sharpen and modify the edge geometry of all my blades, so this factor is out of the equation. That's one thing I love about your demos, I know the edge geometry and sharpness is consistent, so the variable is the sword design or type of cut.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on May 31, 2021 20:03:36 GMT
I sharpen and modify the edge geometry of all my blades, so this factor is out of the equation. :) That's one thing I love about your demos, I know the edge geometry and sharpness is consistent, so the variable is the sword design or type of cut. Thanks a lot for your kind words. Yes, the blade design, shape, and the type of cuts make TON of differences. If the edge geometry and sharpness are not pinned down, one would not be able to identify the key factors from all the variables.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 21:10:31 GMT
Try the POM pomegranate juice bottles, oh those are challenging with the hard and deflective spherical body. Almost futile with anything less than a thin, fast two-hander. A lot of my thicker short swords just can't do targets the average katana can do easily. I'm glad I'm not the only one who struggles with this, especially a competent cutter like yourself
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on May 31, 2021 21:17:09 GMT
Almost futile with anything less than a thin, fast two-hander. A lot of my thicker short swords just can't do targets the average katana can do easily. I'm glad I'm not the only one who struggles with this, especially a competent cutter like yourself I'll say also, cutting is an extremely perishable skill for me. I have taken months or years off from actual target cutting only to find my edge alignment is now embarrasingly bad and I need a lot of remedial work. I had taken a long, long break (only sticks and knives and such, almost no bottle cutting) before I started doing reviews again in December and am gradually getting back to my former level.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 21:42:34 GMT
I'm glad I'm not the only one who struggles with this, especially a competent cutter like yourself I'll say also, cutting is an extremely perishable skill for me. I have taken months or years off from actual target cutting only to find my edge alignment is now embarrasingly bad and I need a lot of remedial work. I had taken a long, long break (only sticks and knives and such, almost no bottle cutting) before I started doing reviews again in December and am gradually getting back to my former level. Yea same here. It's one of those skills that I have a hard time keeping, no matter how much dry handling I do. For some reason, saber style cutting seems to stick better than any other style, for me
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Post by tsmspace on Jun 1, 2021 5:05:39 GMT
Usually a flexible blade meant it's thin, and being thin can cut very good. Yes, I know about the whole swords are thin thing. I have a small variety, and like my thin ones. I have some united cutlery stuff that's the "combat commander" series,,, it's just thin machetes, they cut awesome. actually they're so good for like, 30$, it's ridiculous. (the big spartan one is a bit clumsy, but the saber cuts awesome. No,, the saber is not probably a good "saber" per se,, but it cuts bottles and stuff awesome,, and it sharpens super easy). I mean I want a premium sword, but I'm never going to need a sword, so in that case, since I am so abusive, I should just buy something that's cheap. That's what's the bummer about the scorpion swords,, you think,, well that's pretty thick and beefy, I mean I can get a machete from cold steel for 50$ every time, it's really good,,, I can get a katana for like 200$ that's really impressive,, truly able to cut someone right in half ,,,,, but I want something that's nice and tough, I'll spend 400$ and get this giant bar of steel that should be basically invincible compared to plastic bottles and my cutting stand, and see how I like that. *squish "oh man, my 400$, I could have had such a good katana"
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Post by markus313 on Jun 1, 2021 8:36:49 GMT
TM, get yourself a Cold Steel machete and be done with the hassle.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 1, 2021 11:35:27 GMT
TM, get yourself a Cold Steel machete and be done with the hassle. 😁😁😁
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