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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 7:20:10 GMT
Yea i love the whole zombie apocalypse aesthetic. There is not a whole lot of modern day fantasy that would make use of a sword as much as they do.
I was considering that Cutlass. Of course, I'm back to having no money, so it may be a no go for a few months, but let me know how it is.
I still got my briquet to satisfy that aspect of life. It does a similar job as a Cutlass
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 10, 2021 7:30:31 GMT
Haha, in "zombie acopalypse" "apocalypse" becomes "acopalypse"!! I didn't order the cutlass but the katana. I think if 9260 steel makes any sense then it's for longer and lighter blades. In 2021 until now I just bought 2 very cheap Windlass swords, so I could justify the two APOCs.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on May 10, 2021 9:28:01 GMT
would it make sense to carry a couple swords? Even without zombies, some people carried two swords. A classic example is the Japanese daito. Sometimes, Indian warriors carried two swords, the backup one of softer (and therefore tougher steel). Chinese warriors sometimes carried two - "yin and yang swords", which might mean the same thing as the Indian case, metallurgically.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 9:34:12 GMT
would it make sense to carry a couple swords? Even without zombies, some people carried two swords. A classic example is the Japanese daito. Sometimes, Indian warriors carried two swords, the backup one of softer (and therefore tougher steel). Chinese warriors sometimes carried two - "yin and yang swords", which might mean the same thing as the Indian case, metallurgically. Damn, that's a good answer. I always wondered if it was done in a historical context. One soft and one hard blade. I'll keep that in mind when choosing my kit. How about carrying both a sword and shield, and also a two hander? Does that sound like something that might have been done?
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Post by pgandy on May 10, 2021 11:31:59 GMT
You can pull the spear back as fast as a lizard flicks its tongue, ... Ya, flick it out and in like a snake’s tongue. With the exception of my Assegai none are designed for hewing.
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Post by Murffy on May 10, 2021 16:47:37 GMT
You can pull the spear back as fast as a lizard flicks its tongue, ... Ya, flick it out and in like a snake’s tongue. With the exception of my Assegai none are designed for hewing. I have a short Condor Greek spear about 5' long. It's quite nimble even in fairly tight spaces. One thing I've noticed with a spear is you can change facing quickly. Instead of a 180-degree turn, you just flip the spear over and adjust your feet a little. Good for those pesky zombies coming up from behind. The Condor has a small, really solid head, but I think for zombies I'd prefer a thinner, sharper, dagger-like head.
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Post by wlewisiii on May 10, 2021 18:41:50 GMT
Zombie/EOTWAWKI? Raid the nearest guard armory, get my grubbies on a Ma Duce and set up in a very high place with as much ammo as possible. If I get to the sword in my right hand and the 357 revolver in my left hand, I'm dead already and just taking an honor guard with me to hell.
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Post by howler on May 10, 2021 20:01:48 GMT
You can pull the spear back as fast as a lizard flicks its tongue, ... Ya, flick it out and in like a snake’s tongue. With the exception of my Assegai none are designed for hewing. Yup, I'd go so far against PURE zombie foes as to forgo the cutting edges on a spear altogether and instead pick a lance head due to its superior toughness, for instance, choosing the CS lance head spear over the CS assegai.
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Post by markus313 on May 10, 2021 21:52:24 GMT
Ah, zombie threads can be fun...
A spear wouldn’t be my top choice vs. zombies, at least not when fighting alone. Too hard to aim precisely under stress (headshot needed), and when it gets stuck, you’re in a real hurry going for your back-up. Cumbersome to carry, too.
A good shield would be nice to have in most circumstances, but they ain’t easy to lug around and can hinder vision in a fight.
So first off I’d go with sand-filled gloves with kevlar inlet for a minimum of protection, and more bite-resistant armor depending on the conditions (mainly regarding climate).
The main weapon would need some good reach and maneuverability to deal with multiple opponents. It needs sufficient percussive resp. cutting power to reliably penetrate the skull resp. to decapitate. It must be very robust but not too heavy so it doesn’t wear you out too quick in prolonged combat. With bladed weapons, edge alignment would be a major issue, so if going with swords, I’d prefer designs that facilitate edge orientation.
Maces are worth a thought too, I experimented a bit with longer and shorter ones, and see two problems. A non-spiked or “studded” mace or staff may be able to break the skull, but may not “bite” enough to reliably destroy the brain. A mace with longer spikes may get stuck too easily. They can knock these guys over, of course.
One problem I see with two-handed swords is that they may not be too good at one-handing striking, which may get necessary when one hand is occupied with other actions. Also they tend to be rather uncomfortable to carry on foot.
So I’d go with my CS 1796 saber and a CS Viking Hand Axe as back-up, for utility and confined spaces/indoors. Those worn on a baldric. A short spiked hammer of some sort and a good stout rondel dagger, worn on the belt.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 10, 2021 22:42:45 GMT
Zombie/EOTWAWKI? Raid the nearest guard armory, get my grubbies on a Ma Duce and set up in a very high place with as much ammo as possible. If I get to the sword in my right hand and the 357 revolver in my left hand, I'm dead already and just taking an honor guard with me to hell. I like the way you think regarding vehicles. I already have a M75 APC and it would be full of food, ammo and weapons. Its 9 ft high so I think a 3 iron standing on the roof would do just fine as long as the damn things cant climb. My Zombie swords of choice would be my long Roman gladius by Mark Marrow and probably a Bugei Bamboo or Shobu katana. Mark Morrow Pompeii gladius Reinforced point of the gladius penetrating a level 2a soft Kevlar vest like a hot knife thru butter Than again, my A&A Iberian mace might be pretty effective as well... M75 APC next to a car for scale.
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Post by howler on May 10, 2021 23:18:22 GMT
Ah, zombie threads can be fun...
A spear wouldn’t be my top choice vs. zombies, at least not when fighting alone. Too hard to aim precisely under stress (headshot needed), and when it gets stuck, you’re in a real hurry going for your back-up. Cumbersome to carry, too.
A good shield would be nice to have in most circumstances, but they ain’t easy to lug around and can hinder vision in a fight.
So first off I’d go with sand-filled gloves with kevlar inlet for a minimum of protection, and more bite-resistant armor depending on the conditions (mainly regarding climate).
The main weapon would need some good reach and maneuverability to deal with multiple opponents. It needs sufficient percussive resp. cutting power to reliably penetrate the skull resp. to decapitate. It must be very robust but not too heavy so it doesn’t wear you out too quick in prolonged combat. With bladed weapons, edge alignment would be a major issue, so if going with swords, I’d prefer designs that facilitate edge orientation.
Maces are worth a thought too, I experimented a bit with longer and shorter ones, and see two problems. A non-spiked or “studded” mace or staff may be able to break the skull, but may not “bite” enough to reliably destroy the brain. A mace with longer spikes may get stuck too easily. They can knock these guys over, of course.
One problem I see with two-handed swords is that they may not be too good at one-handing striking, which may get necessary when one hand is occupied with other actions. Also they tend to be rather uncomfortable to carry on foot.
So I’d go with my CS 1796 saber and a CS Viking Hand Axe as back-up, for utility and confined spaces/indoors. Those worn on a baldric. A short spiked hammer of some sort and a good stout rondel dagger, worn on the belt. Interesting, now I know if COVID goes all zombie on the world than my CS 1796 goes from wall hanger to front line use. I guess one would have to do a bit of thrusting practice to get used to that point curvature because you still need some of that offensive capability.
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Post by howler on May 10, 2021 23:21:12 GMT
Zombie/EOTWAWKI? Raid the nearest guard armory, get my grubbies on a Ma Duce and set up in a very high place with as much ammo as possible. If I get to the sword in my right hand and the 357 revolver in my left hand, I'm dead already and just taking an honor guard with me to hell. I like the way you think regarding vehicles. I already have a M75 APC and it would be full of food, ammo and weapons. Its 9 ft high so I think a 3 iron standing on the roof would do just fine as long as the damn things cant climb. My Zombie swords of choice would be my long Roman gladius by Mark Marrow and probably a Bugei Bamboo or Shobu katana. Mark Morrow Pompeii gladius Reinforced point of the gladius penetrating a level 2a soft Kevlar vest like a hot knife thru butter Than again, my A&A Iberian mace might be pretty effective as well... M75 APC next to a car for scale. Love it. And don't forget the fuel.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 10, 2021 23:41:44 GMT
I like the way you think regarding vehicles. I already have a M75 APC and it would be full of food, ammo and weapons. Its 9 ft high so I think a 3 iron standing on the roof would do just fine as long as the damn things cant climb. My Zombie swords of choice would be my long Roman gladius by Mark Marrow and probably a Bugei Bamboo or Shobu katana. Mark Morrow Pompeii gladius Reinforced point of the gladius penetrating a level 2a soft Kevlar vest like a hot knife thru butter Than again, my A&A Iberian mace might be pretty effective as well... M75 APC next to a car for scale. Love it. And don't forget the fuel. The M75 is perfect.. it is a huge APC, runs on gasoline (not diesel) and is a huge 20 ton armored box to be filled with essential items and has a top speed of 45mph. There is a .50 BMG mount on the commanders hatch and I have a semi auto M2HB for it. In the zombie apocalypse scenario, I am planning to take what I want/need. I have enough body armor/plates /weapons / ammo to completely combat kit out 12 friends. It is my intent to re-establish feudalism in So. Calif. if the Zombie scenario comes to be.
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Post by howler on May 11, 2021 1:45:35 GMT
The M75 is perfect.. it is a huge APC, runs on gasoline (not diesel) and is a huge 20 ton armored box to be filled with essential items and has a top speed of 45mph. There is a .50 BMG mount on the commanders hatch and I have a semi auto M2HB for it. In the zombie apocalypse scenario, I am planning to take what I want/need. I have enough body armor/plates /weapons / ammo to completely combat kit out 12 friends. It is my intent to re-establish feudalism in So. Calif. if the Zombie scenario comes to be. You gotta be the most heavily armed/armored man in Cali. Staying frosty in one of the anti-firearm ground zeroes.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 2:16:07 GMT
Newport: holy sh*t I'm jealous of you lol. I am no where near as prepared as you are. That's what I always wanted to do. Arm a batallion of friends, but I can arm two guys in low level budget sh*t, at best 😂
Oh well, beats nothing, whoever the lucky freeloader is that gets my second set of armour
You did that test? Everyday I'm reminded why my leafblade is the best sword ever for this purpose haha. It's built similar, but slightly more wicked 😎
12 friends eh... Did I ever tell you how you are my best friend
Howler: one thing I like about my briquet is that it's stiff, forward heavy, and not too curved, so I think it would trust nicely. Would sever a spine even nicer tho I bet. Or chop into a zombie skull
But lord Newport as me sold on Danu being a for sure carry in that scenario, seeing what he did with a gladius. And use the shield to close in, in case the flail wildly and I'm golden
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Post by markus313 on May 13, 2021 14:59:22 GMT
I think Lord Newport's A&A Iberian mace would work well. Those spikes seem just right. Also it has a large striking area.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 13, 2021 16:48:29 GMT
I think Lord Newport's A&A Iberian mace would work well. Those spikes seem just right. Also it has a large striking area. If I was going to use it as a real weapon, I would have to add some grip tape and a lanyard. In handling it it is clearly a very simple and effective blunt force trauma weapon. Definitely would NOT want someone beating on me with it.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 5:56:09 GMT
I dunno if anyone cares bout this thread anymore, but I had an idea how thrusting with a spear, even one without wings, is also useful against a zombie, assuming they are spaced out.
Thrust 1/3 of the way in, push up on spear handle to leverage them back, when they fall, pull spear out and stab down at the head while stepping on chest
I just thought of it. Your welcome zombie apocalypse cartoon makers
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 24, 2021 6:33:26 GMT
But you always have to hit the head/brain with the first strike otherwise Mr. Z may grip your spear shaft or yourself after closing in hanging on the spear shaft. And this with only one zombie.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 24, 2021 6:46:57 GMT
Best way to deal with zombies ..fire.
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