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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 25, 2021 17:46:14 GMT
Btw how do we call Shetland ponies outside Shetland?
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Post by treeslicer on Apr 25, 2021 17:47:48 GMT
Or ducks. Imagine getting pecked to death by ducks. Laugh at my duck sled will you?! Attack! Kill! It would be like 5 minutes before you realized that you were in serious danger, and another 10 before you realized you are going to die. I raise your duck with Canadian geese. Also known as the cobra chicken. Proof there is such a thing as evil in the world They're vile animals, but just the right height for tameshigiri.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 18:23:58 GMT
I'm happy to get it wrong, those geese were never Canadians to me. From everything I’ve read on here and elsewhere, the only way people enjoy Canada geese is from afar. They make fantastic roasts as well, with mashed potatoes and peas as a side. Not sure why, but those flavours compliment each other best
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Post by paulmuaddib on Apr 25, 2021 19:33:20 GMT
I thought of that after I left, I guess cooked might be the only other way they’re enjoyed. I’ve had goose but I don’t think it was Canada goose. Was delicious though.
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Post by paulmuaddib on Apr 25, 2021 19:34:27 GMT
I raise your duck with Canadian geese. Also known as the cobra chicken. Proof there is such a thing as evil in the world They're vile animals, but just the right height for tameshigiri. Don’t let PETA hear that! 😏
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Post by paulmuaddib on Apr 25, 2021 19:38:49 GMT
Btw how do we call Shetland ponies outside Shetland? Like Canada geese they are called the same thing no matter where they are. And before you go there Andi, I DON’T mean Canada ponies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 20:45:37 GMT
I thought of that after I left, I guess cooked might be the only other way they’re enjoyed. I’ve had goose but I don’t think it was Canada goose. Was delicious though. I'm a fan of any of the fowl found in nature. Some of the best eats you can get. Heck, I enjoy any wild food. One benefit of growing up indigenous lol. All kinds of fresh, wild food. ... I wonder what a Shetland pony would taste like. I can't imagine anything but unenjoyable, knowing it was a horse lol. I've eaten veal, and couldn't enjoy it knowing it was a baby cow, as good as it tasted Now I'm wondering how well a cow would perform pulling a light sleigh of stuff. And if you found yourself starving in the woods... You do have an entire cow
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Post by treeslicer on Apr 25, 2021 21:48:05 GMT
They're vile animals, but just the right height for tameshigiri. Don’t let PETA hear that! 😏 People Eating Tasty Animals?
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Post by howler on Apr 26, 2021 0:03:41 GMT
I thought of that after I left, I guess cooked might be the only other way they’re enjoyed. I’ve had goose but I don’t think it was Canada goose. Was delicious though. I'm a fan of any of the fowl found in nature. Some of the best eats you can get. Heck, I enjoy any wild food. One benefit of growing up indigenous lol. All kinds of fresh, wild food. ... I wonder what a Shetland pony would taste like. I can't imagine anything but unenjoyable, knowing it was a horse lol. I've eaten veal, and couldn't enjoy it knowing it was a baby cow, as good as it tasted Now I'm wondering how well a cow would perform pulling a light sleigh of stuff. And if you found yourself starving in the woods... You do have an entire cow The beloved pony would probably go down hard in your belly a day or so after the last of the food rations it was pulling on the arduous journey ran out, but after a week or so of no food it would suddenly become the finest dining experience of your life, particularly if prepared well. Burp. An empty belly makes for a generous food critic.
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Post by demonskull on Apr 26, 2021 0:38:38 GMT
Stick to the plan: A shetland pony or any small horse or mule. Hobble them at night or when making camp near your dungeon. A trained dog or two will keep your horse/mule safe. They can eat most vegetation and the dogs can eat jerked meat. Hang your eatables in a bear bag from a tree. Feed the dogs before you leave and try to be back within 24 hours. In the event of an emergency gear can be left behind and a party member can ride the animal. If your near a wide stream/river you can use your animal to pull a raft like a barge. One person to guide the animal and at least one on the raft/barge using the rudder.
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Post by Murffy on Apr 26, 2021 2:03:36 GMT
Lamas I understand are pretty good pack animals and sure footed. I know a farmer who keeps Lamas. They're very protective and will run down coyotes and other predators.
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Post by howler on Apr 26, 2021 6:35:10 GMT
I like the horse/mule for most things, to the point that one really must ask what animal other than horse/mule (like Murffy stated above with llama). In snowy environments you would have sled & dogs, with an advantage of dogs also giving protection (guard/fighting).
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Post by RufusScorpius on Apr 26, 2021 12:41:59 GMT
Stick to the plan: A shetland pony or any small horse or mule. Hobble them at night or when making camp near your dungeon. A trained dog or two will keep your horse/mule safe. They can eat most vegetation and the dogs can eat jerked meat. Hang your eatables in a bear bag from a tree. Feed the dogs before you leave and try to be back within 24 hours. In the event of an emergency gear can be left behind and a party member can ride the animal. If your near a wide stream/river you can use your animal to pull a raft like a barge. One person to guide the animal and at least one on the raft/barge using the rudder. Those are good ideas, but make a lot of assumptions. What if you are on the moors or grasslands and don't have any trees? Save the jerked meat for yourself and let the dogs eat wild game (if available) like rabbits and such. Pulling a barge sounds like a good idea - for people who have never seen a river in real life. Rivers have muddy banks, fallen trees/rocks etc, don't have any straight edges to speak of, and generally are next to impossible to walk along for any distance. In areas where animals are used to pull barges, the banks have been filled and straightened to accommodate a flat, solid surface for the animals to walk. But I understand we are in fantasy world. So what are the rules here? Is it the physical laws of our world, only with fantasy creatures? Is magic a thing? What are the limitations? Are there Dire wolves in this world? If so, I would use them instead of dogs. Are there mules and donkeys - the OP only mentions Shetland ponies so we know they exist, but for the rest? And if we can steampunk a bit of it, to what extent? Steampunk implies industrial capacity and knowledge of the Scientific Method- if so, then we can have a flying boat/ blimp with steam driven propellers or similar; and by extension imply a very different kind of adventure from a medieval/dark age era. Can I have my duck sled please and thank you?
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Post by Murffy on Apr 26, 2021 15:16:42 GMT
Eurasian steppe ponies would be good adventuring choices. Hardy, quick, can live off the land and don't need as much forage as other breeds. North American mustangs also, for the same reasons, though they tend to be bigger. In the idiom of the lone wasteland wanderer, I'm thinking donkey or mule. Donkey if food and resources are particularly scarce, otherwise mule because it's a ridable mount in need. If you're looking to outrun pursuers, go with the steppe pony or mustang.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 15:36:49 GMT
Stick to the plan: A shetland pony or any small horse or mule. Hobble them at night or when making camp near your dungeon. A trained dog or two will keep your horse/mule safe. They can eat most vegetation and the dogs can eat jerked meat. Hang your eatables in a bear bag from a tree. Feed the dogs before you leave and try to be back within 24 hours. In the event of an emergency gear can be left behind and a party member can ride the animal. If your near a wide stream/river you can use your animal to pull a raft like a barge. One person to guide the animal and at least one on the raft/barge using the rudder. Those are good ideas, but make a lot of assumptions. What if you are on the moors or grasslands and don't have any trees? Save the jerked meat for yourself and let the dogs eat wild game (if available) like rabbits and such. Pulling a barge sounds like a good idea - for people who have never seen a river in real life. Rivers have muddy banks, fallen trees/rocks etc, don't have any straight edges to speak of, and generally are next to impossible to walk along for any distance. In areas where animals are used to pull barges, the banks have been filled and straightened to accommodate a flat, solid surface for the animals to walk. But I understand we are in fantasy world. So what are the rules here? Is it the physical laws of our world, only with fantasy creatures? Is magic a thing? What are the limitations? Are there Dire wolves in this world? If so, I would use them instead of dogs. Are there mules and donkeys - the OP only mentions Shetland ponies so we know they exist, but for the rest? And if we can steampunk a bit of it, to what extent? Steampunk implies industrial capacity and knowledge of the Scientific Method- if so, then we can have a flying boat/ blimp with steam driven propellers or similar; and by extension imply a very different kind of adventure from a medieval/dark age era. Can I have my duck sled please and thank you? I rememeber this one guy fed suckers (fish) to his dog team. Too bony for people to eat, but for some reason, not for dogs? Anyway, yea, if one kept the jerky for themselves, he could feed his dogs almost anything
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Post by RufusScorpius on Apr 26, 2021 17:01:24 GMT
Dogs have Teflon lined cast iron stomachs. They are meatasaurasus that can down anything fresh. Crunching and swallowing bones is not effort for a dog. And they don't require a lot of calories per day. A single rabbit can feed two or three large dogs for an entire day ( just cut it in half and throw it to them raw). And they don't necessarily need to eat every day at that, depending if they had enough at their last meal they can go two or three days with no food in an active environment, and up to a week without in hard times.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 26, 2021 17:08:51 GMT
How often do your dogs attack you during an average day?
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Post by RufusScorpius on Apr 26, 2021 17:32:47 GMT
How often do your dogs attack you during an average day? Dogs only attack those unworthy to lead them. Probably why barbarians didn't use them for war like properly civilized Romans did.
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Post by paulmuaddib on Apr 26, 2021 22:42:15 GMT
Dogs have Teflon lined cast iron stomachs. They are meatasaurasus that can down anything fresh. Crunching and swallowing bones is not effort for a dog. And they don't require a lot of calories per day. A single rabbit can feed two or three large dogs for an entire day ( just cut it in half and throw it to them raw). And they don't necessarily need to eat every day at that, depending if they had enough at their last meal they can go two or three days with no food in an active environment, and up to a week without in hard times. I know this is all fantasy and dogs can eat almost anything. But in case anyone doesn’t know don’t feed dogs poultry bones. I’m sure most if not all of you know this but I just want to be cautious. And since this is fantasy, I say use zombies. Just cut their arms and lower jaw off. 😏
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Post by demonskull on Apr 27, 2021 0:07:07 GMT
Stick to the plan: A shetland pony or any small horse or mule. Hobble them at night or when making camp near your dungeon. A trained dog or two will keep your horse/mule safe. They can eat most vegetation and the dogs can eat jerked meat. Hang your eatables in a bear bag from a tree. Feed the dogs before you leave and try to be back within 24 hours. In the event of an emergency gear can be left behind and a party member can ride the animal. If your near a wide stream/river you can use your animal to pull a raft like a barge. One person to guide the animal and at least one on the raft/barge using the rudder. Those are good ideas, but make a lot of assumptions. What if you are on the moors or grasslands and don't have any trees? Save the jerked meat for yourself and let the dogs eat wild game (if available) like rabbits and such. Pulling a barge sounds like a good idea - for people who have never seen a river in real life. Rivers have muddy banks, fallen trees/rocks etc, don't have any straight edges to speak of, and generally are next to impossible to walk along for any distance. In areas where animals are used to pull barges, the banks have been filled and straightened to accommodate a flat, solid surface for the animals to walk. But I understand we are in fantasy world. So what are the rules here? Is it the physical laws of our world, only with fantasy creatures? Is magic a thing? What are the limitations? Are there Dire wolves in this world? If so, I would use them instead of dogs. Are there mules and donkeys - the OP only mentions Shetland ponies so we know they exist, but for the rest? And if we can steampunk a bit of it, to what extent? Steampunk implies industrial capacity and knowledge of the Scientific Method- if so, then we can have a flying boat/ blimp with steam driven propellers or similar; and by extension imply a very different kind of adventure from a medieval/dark age era. Can I have my duck sled please and thank you? I was basing my ideas off a medieval D&D type world. Waterways have always been major routes before and after roadways have been introduced, hence the possibility of using a barge or raft in some instances. As long we're discussing what to use or take along on these types of adventures, here's a few other ideas. Instead of taking lamp oil in vials use vegetable oil. It serves the same purposes with the added feature of cooking. A torch (in D&D) will last an hour. This in fact isn't true unless you have a torch with a reservoir (like a Tiki torch). A torch you are taking into a cave dungeon will only last between 20-30 minutes depending on how breezy it is. Simply take a stick/tree limb, wrap it tightly with a strip of cloth (1" x 24") will do. Lightly run it over a saucer of oil or dribble a few drops of the oil onto the cloth. Use it sparingly, too much and it will run down the torch. Not pleasant to have burning oil run over your hand. Next light the torch. Watch the flame periodically as if it start to give off black smoke, you might be burning the wood. If the flame itself changes color the place you're in might have a harmful mix of fumes. When you stand still, the flame will move toward fresher air, if there is no air movement. Taking three or four of these torches will insure both light and an active fire at all times. Once the first torch starts to burn down, you wrap the second, dribble on the oil and light it from the first and so on. If the oil is depleted on the torch, simply wave it vigorously and the torch will go out. You don't even have to buy new oil, simply use the old oil in your fryer by filtering it (when cold) through a paper coffee filter. It will be darker than fresh but won't affect your result. Buy several small glass vials/bottles with cork stoppers. Try Ebay or a similar site for the bottles. Once you funnel the oil in them, apply the cork and then dribbles wax over the cork to seal the oil in. In a pinch the oil flask coupled with a strip of fabric braided as a wick becomes an improvised lamp. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE COLEMAN FUEL OR ANY WHITE GAS OR REGULAR GASOLINE- IT BURNS TOO HIGH AND FAST AND CAN EXPLODE !! As far as other equipment, a small garden grub/pick axe is a good choice. It's small, light weight and can be taken a part readily to be packed away. The grub blade is a decent substitute for a shovel and the pick blade can be used as a pick or to wedge shut a door, if you're being followed and need to buy some time. Next a camp axe with a poll/peen end. You'll want to have a goodly amount of clean rags for bandages, torch wrappings and to muffle the axe head when silence is needed. The next items go hand in hand with the poll headed axe: spikes. Buy four 8" spikes from Home Depot/Lowes wherever. Keep the heads on two of them and cut the heads off the other two. Next do a flat grind on all the points to bring them down to a semi sharp point. The two with the heads are for tool purposes, hanging lamps, using for climbing spikes etc. The two without heads make a decent thrown nuisance weapon/distraction. If I get the chance, I'll provide pictures. Not e the darker than typical oil. This was used to fry chicken before being filtered. If the oil had been used for french fries the oil wouldn't be nearly as dark. The grub axe head can easily be removed so the tool can be stored within a pack. The oil flasks I purchased several years ago. They are about the size of a baseball, have a cork stopper. The leather thong was added by myself. If you look closely at my torches, you'll see I added thin spikes through them. These aren't needed, I just wanted to insure the wrapping stayed exactly where I put them and didn't slide down the haft.
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