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Post by RufusScorpius on Apr 23, 2021 19:01:57 GMT
What about one of these? You won't need to feed it or worry about spooking it You may not have to feed it, but its going to want to be paid. They also have a bad habit of thinking for themselves after a while.
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Post by Murffy on Apr 23, 2021 19:06:19 GMT
Djjinja may have been referring to the cart, not the woman.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 23, 2021 19:10:25 GMT
Which cart?
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Post by Murffy on Apr 23, 2021 19:22:14 GMT
Pulling a cart around is not that easy in rough terrain. I've used a cart to drag a deer out of a wildlife management area where no motor vehicles were allowed. It was a pretty grueling couple of miles and that was on a decent trail. I was tempted to try to carry the carcass on my shoulders but that's not a good idea during hunting season.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 23, 2021 19:52:39 GMT
Oh, that cart!
How does pony taste?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2021 20:10:34 GMT
Djjinja may have been referring to the cart, not the woman. Or am I? đ Another idea: coconuts, paired with that device
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Post by RufusScorpius on Apr 23, 2021 21:53:54 GMT
Pulling a cart around is not that easy in rough terrain. I've used a cart to drag a deer out of a wildlife management area where no motor vehicles were allowed. It was a pretty grueling couple of miles and that was on a decent trail. I was tempted to try to carry the carcass on my shoulders but that's not a good idea during hunting season. Jokes aside, pulling a cart over rough ground sucks semprini. It's not as easy as you would think. Wheels were made for roads. A sled or travios is much better, but an animal with legs is the best
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2021 22:13:11 GMT
Pulling a cart around is not that easy in rough terrain. I've used a cart to drag a deer out of a wildlife management area where no motor vehicles were allowed. It was a pretty grueling couple of miles and that was on a decent trail. I was tempted to try to carry the carcass on my shoulders but that's not a good idea during hunting season. Jokes aside, pulling a cart over rough ground sucks semprini.  It's not as easy as you would think.  Wheels were made for roads.  A sled or travios is much better, but an animal with legs is the best I've seen some people use a light plastic sled to pull stuff in winter. Seems like a good way to go. Having sled and sled dogs might be pretty good too, but I have no idea what feeding them would be like. I've known people with sled teams, but I never really asked about how they did any of that stuff
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Post by RufusScorpius on Apr 24, 2021 0:10:54 GMT
No steampunk then? Bummer.
So staying within the middle ages or so means pack animals with carts or sleds. Which animal and whether or not to bring a cart is dependent on the adventure.
My thoughts would be starting out from a moderate sized town or city where you can procure supplies. I would take a mule and a donkey and load the mule with a 2 wheel cart and the donkey with 2 baskets. The mule would have on him a pack containing a tent and camp supplies (cooking gear and whatnot), the cart would contain food supplies, water, medical kit, and tools ( ax, mallet, shovel and such), while the donkey carried more food and weapons like arrows and extra spear tips as required. You would carry some rations, weapons, and cold weather or rain clothing, along with personal hygiene supplies. As the journey progressed and supplies were consumed, the cart could be disposed of or used for firewood, the mule could be eaten if necessary (you would lose the tent in that case, but whatever), and the donkey would be the last to go. Like a Saturn V moon launch- you will be heavy at the start and lighter as you go.
Naturally this all depends on the nature of the journey and the ease of living off the land or securing fresh supplies along the way. If you can do that, then you don't have to dip into your own stash for things and save it for emergencies.
Just a thought. The load out plan is tentative and depends on environment and season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 3:05:15 GMT
Guys I am loving the responses in this thread and I am certainly learning a lot for my adventuring ideas and story writing. However, let's please try to stay within the context of "historically plausible" for the middle ages or possibly Early Modern Era at absolute most. I mean I like Trucks, Chinooks and Trains as much as the next gentleman but.... What about a badass who has a sled and dogs, but instead of dogs, it's like direwolves
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Apr 24, 2021 3:18:40 GMT
Guys I am loving the responses in this thread and I am certainly learning a lot for my adventuring ideas and story writing. However, let's please try to stay within the context of "historically plausible" for the middle ages or possibly Early Modern Era at absolute most. I mean I like Trucks, Chinooks and Trains as much as the next gentleman but.... What about a badass who has a sled and dogs, but instead of dogs, it's like direwolves You are going to have a hell of a time training wolves (dire, or otherwise) to work as a sled team. Wolves tend to be better problem solvers than domesticated dogs, but there are striking behavioral differences as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 3:21:20 GMT
What about a badass who has a sled and dogs, but instead of dogs, it's like direwolves You are going to have a hell of a time training wolves (dire, or otherwise) to work as a sled team. Wolves tend to be better problem solvers than domesticated dogs, but there are striking behavioral differences as well. It would show what kind of badass a character he is making is, or how badass a culture added into it would be.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Apr 24, 2021 3:32:00 GMT
You are going to have a hell of a time training wolves (dire, or otherwise) to work as a sled team. Wolves tend to be better problem solvers than domesticated dogs, but there are striking behavioral differences as well. It would show what kind of badass a character he is making is, or how badass a culture added into it would be. There are multiple breeds of domesticated dogs which are larger on average than dire/Yukon/grey wolves. Having a sled team of 200+ pound English mastiffs is arguably more badass than a bunch of wolves harnessed together and refusing to pull anything. As always, YMMV
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 3:54:19 GMT
It would show what kind of badass a character he is making is, or how badass a culture added into it would be. There are multiple breeds of domesticated dogs which are larger on average than dire/Yukon/grey wolves. Having a sled team of 200+ pound English mastiffs is arguably more badass than a bunch of wolves harnessed together and refusing to pull anything. As always, YMMV Actually you are right on that one. A team of mastiffs would be super badass
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Post by RufusScorpius on Apr 24, 2021 12:16:14 GMT
Nah, if you want to be uber badass, have a sled pulled by fully trained and highly disciplined house cats.
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Post by treeslicer on Apr 24, 2021 15:03:26 GMT
Nah, if you want to be uber badass, have a sled pulled by fully trained and highly disciplined house cats. Wow! Brilliant! I haven't seen a multipart oxymoron like that since I was dating a PhD in English who edited legislative bills.
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Post by Murffy on Apr 24, 2021 15:22:55 GMT
>"fully trained and highly disciplined house cats."
I believe Brother Nathaniel was looking for "plausible" ideas for a fantasy setting, you know,something like pack-velociraptors.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Apr 24, 2021 19:40:03 GMT
It's my fantasy world and I want fully trained house cats to pull my wagons. Because any average person can train dogs or horses, it takes a person of truly frightening psychosis to train cats. How can I instill fear in my enemies if all I do is what's easy and expected?
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Post by howler on Apr 24, 2021 20:30:55 GMT
It's my fantasy world and I want fully trained house cats to pull my wagons. Because any average person can train dogs or horses, it takes a person of truly frightening psychosis to train cats. How can I instill fear in my enemies if all I do is what's easy and expected? Now, if you had a pack of Siberian tigers pulling the wagons while exclaiming to all in earshot that they were your "house cats"...that would indeed make your enemies think you urinate napalm.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Apr 24, 2021 21:21:00 GMT
It's my fantasy world and I want fully trained house cats to pull my wagons. Because any average person can train dogs or horses, it takes a person of truly frightening psychosis to train cats. How can I instill fear in my enemies if all I do is what's easy and expected? Now, if you had a pack of Siberian tigers pulling the wagons while exclaiming to all in earshot that they were your "house cats"...that would indeed make your enemies think you urinate napalm. Shall I do so wearing a mullet? And besides, lots of people have seen trained tigers at the animal shows, but have you ever seen house cats respond on demand to commands? Or do anything at all they were told to? No, I think having German Sheppard level trained house cats shows that their master is a force of nature not to be trifled with. Who else but a terrible and mighty leader could train obedience in the only animal species that ever domesticated humans?
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