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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 20:56:41 GMT
It's too heavy as-is.
I've read at least one other has done this. I don't know which replacement pommels will fit it. Anyone done this? Tips?
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Post by tancred on Mar 24, 2021 21:15:11 GMT
LoE, there's a tread you could look for. I'd look for it, but I'm about to head to work. Should be able to find it on the Sword Customization board. Basically, a user who also owned the Munich wasn't crazy about its pommel. They didn't outright replace it with a different one, but they changed the shape of Munich's own pommel. It went from the roundish one to a multi-faceted one.
I imagine this would alter the weight in some way, probably lessening it. The owner was happy with the result. That's the most important thing for him, so that's cool. For me, I liked the look of the original better, plus, it remained a replica of the historical swords.
Anyway, something you might want to look in to.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Mar 24, 2021 21:19:53 GMT
The pommels of my Munich and my 15th Century Longsword can be switched, the longsword pommel is a bit lighter. The Munich didn't handle much better with it, the longsword worse, so I switched back. I should find a metal worker who can cut the Munich pommel into halves. sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/50624/more-frankenswords
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 21:30:25 GMT
Appreciate the replies. Custom is out of the question, I'm on too cheap budget. I bought this nice sword really cheap, I can't double the cost just for a pommel.
I'm wondering if Tancred is referencing the same review I read. I recall reading a review stating "it's too heavy, so I replaced it". But I thought that review was on some vendor's site, not SBG. I'll dig into the search button, as I should.
Won't mind though if one of you experts pipes an answer off the top of the head, and saves me some grief or wasted time. I suspect many of these pommels are interchangeable. Though change doesn't necessarily mean better.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 21:46:57 GMT
LoE, there's a tread you could look for. Found it. It was JKLnHYD who used his own belt sander. POMMEL
I don't own a belt sander. If I did, I don't have the skill (though that may change as I get more into this). It's not the same post/review I was thinking of, which was a guy who just replaced the pommel outright with a cheap interchangeable pommel he picked up somewhere.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Mar 25, 2021 4:38:28 GMT
I tried a few other screw on pommels from my swords but only the longsword pommel has the right screw hole. You probably need another Windlass sword's pommel. To cut down the Munich pommel one needs powertools I don't own. I gave up and wrapped the grip with grip band which always helps a bit to improve the handling.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 6:10:09 GMT
Windlass pommels will be 1/4"x20 tpi or 5/16"x 18 tpi
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Post by berntk on Mar 25, 2021 7:39:29 GMT
^ Wow! That one in the middle looks like it would bend/ break in a gentle breeze...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 13:32:11 GMT
Oscar Kolombatovich The previous owner (Patrick Kelly) had bashed armour and maille on a side of beef, so it didn't exactly fall apart. An interesting aside on that one is a stepped shoulder, with the guard contacting on both surfaces we see. The Del Tin/MRL was third person through Craig Johnson from the early 1990s when MRL was mounting Del Tin Blades. The Espada Ropera was my first European type and my first reproduction sword. The silver ring above the Turks head was added as a spacer. Faux leather. All buys from the Highlander board years. Cheers GC
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 15:11:56 GMT
Thanks for the responses. Very helpful! I measured it. The pommel is a beast at 14.00 ounces. The thread is 8mm. It's difficult to take a pic with left hand while holding the calipers tight with the right, so you'll see 8.1mm in the pic. I'll try this pommel from Castille Armory in a polished finish. It's simple, cheap, and weighs 5.6 ounces, for a net reduction of 8.4 ounces. That should make a difference. Whether it's better or not, we'll see. Will share results. POMMEL
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 16:03:54 GMT
The thread is 5/16" x 18 threads per inch. Not an 8mm x 1.25 (pitch).
If you doubt that, try a metric 8 on a 5/16. Or stop by an auto or hardware store and compare.
Believe it, or not.
You might get away with running a 5/16"x 18 tpi tap into an 8mm pommel but you won't have much security with it. Conversely, you can wobbly start a 5/16" coarse nut on an 8mmx1.25 thread but as your caliper shows, the 5/16" thread is more than 8mm.
The 8mmx1.25 threaded pommel will not screw onto that thread as is.
Likewise you could run an 8mmx1.25 die onto the 5/16"x 18 tpi thread and again basically have a poor attachment (you could glue it after boring the hole larger or grinding the tang threads down).
Just as you can use a 5/16" wrench on an 8mm nut or bolt.
<shrug> You'll see. </shrug>
Cheers GC
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 16:11:19 GMT
India was part the British Empire.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 16:24:35 GMT
Damn. I already ordered it. I'll reach out to them.
Thanks Edelweiss.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 17:04:19 GMT
I got a prompt and excellent response from Castille Armory. These guys are great.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 19:17:03 GMT
Results are in.
- Many thanks to edelweiss. His advice & info resulted in a perfect fit.
- Total weight reduced from 3.6 lbs to 2.7 lbs
- Point of balance increased from ~2.4" to ~4.0"
It feels a lot lighter. Quite noticeable difference. But it also feels less well-balanced. It's a trade-off. Overall, I'd have to say it was a worthwhile improvement. I do indeed like it better.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 20:30:01 GMT
More choppy and less poky, with the weight further out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 21:08:27 GMT
Right you are edelweiss.
I tested it yesterday on soft targets like shrub branches and cardboard boxes. There was noticeable whistle as it sliced through the air that wasn't there before. Cuts with authority. Didn't do that before. I like this blade more than I used to.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 22:06:43 GMT
It's too bad lamp finials use a finer thread 5/16 (x27), or you would have a world of inexpensive pommels. Acorn nuts are cheap but look like them. You can play with washers to bring up the weight gradually.
Cheers GC
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 22:31:27 GMT
To edelweiss
Your depth of knowledge amazes me. Swords in particular (and finials, and imperial vs metric measurements, taps vs dies, threads per inch vs pitch) - where did you get all of this knowledge?
Regardless of how you accumulated this knowledge, I'd have screwed this up without you help.
You are an expert sir.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 0:22:59 GMT
I started as a foreign car mechanic (half a century ago).
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