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Post by marcofthecovenant on Jan 3, 2021 15:26:27 GMT
I have always wanted a sword cane, something so 007 about it. Ryansword offers one with some pretty impressive specs. With a 30 inch blade and at two and a half pounds this sword seems more substantial than others on the market that are far lighter overall. Ordering was fairly painless but I got an email today letting me know, not that it was on the way, but in production que and "should" be done by the 20th. Thats odd, it says they have twenty "in stock".
So I replied to them and expressed my disappointment, and was told they only had rough blades and components, that it would have to be assembled and polished.
So although I have only made it through the ordering process, as I see it, our business relationship is built on a deception. I look forward to adding a full and detailed review to this thread when I (eventually) receive this sword.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Jan 3, 2021 16:03:18 GMT
I wouldn't twitch too hard. Websites are only as updated as the person doing it. So 'in stock' numbers will vary. But if/when you get it, please post a review! I've been thinking along similar lines for a sword cane...
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Jan 3, 2021 17:16:58 GMT
I wouldn't twitch too hard. Websites are only as updated as the person doing it. So 'in stock' numbers will vary. But if/when you get it, please post a review! I've been thinking along similar lines for a sword cane... I feel you man, but to me it feels less like an administrative error and more like a bait and switch.
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Post by pgandy on Jan 3, 2021 19:02:00 GMT
I like sword canes. I have several and would like to hear your opinions on that one.
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Jan 3, 2021 20:21:27 GMT
I like sword canes. I have several and would like to hear your opinions on that one. What is your personal favorite, in relation to actual self defence?
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Post by pgandy on Jan 3, 2021 23:17:30 GMT
I like sword canes. I have several and would like to hear your opinions on that one. What is your personal favorite, in relation to actual self defence? Which is better depends on the scenario; one maybe good in one and in another case another, unfortunately when starting out one never knows. I’ve only drawn once and that was with Windlass’ Knob Handle Cane. In that case it was a double dog attack and the long 28½” came in handy as the blades needed to be depressed below horizontal. No blood drawn as they couldn’t figure out how to get around the points, both the scabbard and sword was used. I generally prefer a shorter blade, 17” is good. I prefer a button release as they are usually easier to hide, not like that lever on the Ryan. Also they are quicker and silent. I thought at one time a friction hold would be the way to go and CS finally came out with that. I find it slower to draw and comes out with an audible pop, neither are to my liking. It also weighs 27oz, factory figure, and is the worst of the lot to carry, feels like a heavy iron bar, dead. Once drawn the blade handles well enough. The handle is terrible for carry but makes drawing easy by hitting it with the heel of the hand. Although it has the best cutting blade it is still a thruster. I like a double edge blade not for cutting none seem good at that but it should discourage someone from grabbing the blade. If they do I’m sure they will lose all interest quickly. Rattles are the big thing you need to look out for. With the exception of my two sword sticks I’ve been lucky in that department. I’ve notice that some canes are too short. 36” is the standard international length. 37” is my length and I’m 5’9½” but live in the mountains. Whatever you choose you will probably need to replace the rubber tip from the start. There are replaceable cane tips. I find the factory tips don’t have the proper adhesion especially in the wet and are subject to slipping. Here’s a rebuttal I made regarding Skallagrim’s review on this sword. A link to his review can also be found on that page.
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Jan 4, 2021 0:44:35 GMT
Good to know, I appreciate your opinion and the video as well. I find it intriguing you had to fight off a couple of dogs with yours, that's kind of awesome. I will test it and post a review, however I wont try to chop down a tree with it lol.
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Post by William Swiger on Jan 4, 2021 23:25:36 GMT
Yeah - these are to stab as a last resort.
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Jan 6, 2021 2:37:28 GMT
Sooo... was sent some photos today of my sword. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, lol. Can anyone translate the markings on the blade for me?
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Post by alientude on Jan 6, 2021 2:48:54 GMT
That's a handsome looking cane sword. Wish they weren't illegal in California.
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Post by pgandy on Jan 6, 2021 13:43:01 GMT
What are the dimensions of the blade?
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Jan 6, 2021 14:58:58 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Jan 6, 2021 17:05:57 GMT
I like the dimensions. Looks like it will be a strong blade.
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Feb 5, 2021 0:50:02 GMT
The sword cane was recieved on January 20th.
Well, I must say the dimensions on the cane sword I received are pretty far off the dimensions listed on the Ryansword website. I understand some "wiggleroom" is implied with anything custom made but the length and weight were pretty far off which is very disappointing.
Ryansword listed specifications: Blade Material : Folded Steel Overall Length : 96cm / 37.8
Blade Length : 78cm / 30.7 Handle Length : 18cm / 7.1
Width at Handguard : 2.3cm Thickness at Handguard : 5mm Weight without Scabbard : 1200g
Measurements of the sword as received:
Length over all: 91.5cm/36" Blade length: 52cm/20.5" Handle length: 17.7cm or just a bch under seven inches. Width at handguard: 2.5cm/1" Thickness at handguard: 5mm, discernible distal taper
Weight without scabbard: 425.8g
The swords best feature is the dense ebony wood it is crafted from. The "scabbard" is barely half a gram lighter than the sword itself. The cane has an oiled finish, smooth to the touch and robust in weight. I feel confident in the scabbard as an offhand weapon to compliment the sword in a fight.
The sword in the scabbard is undeniably rattling around, and when used as a cane, makes the sword inside undeniable.
The brass catch release feels delicate and any shock or jar to the cane releases the blade, weather you pressed the catch or not. I like that Ryansword put a catch on either side of the scabbard lip, so I don't have to be conscious of where the catch is at when I sheath the sword.
The handle is a about an inch thick and has a nice knob "pommel". The ebony wood feels grippy and secure in the hand. Perhaps less so if it were wet with blood or water in spite of the three shallow grooves that radius the grip at the palm. The grip is perfectly round which makes edge alignment mostly luck.
The folded steel blade has the fine "wood grain" pattern and is stiff, but with moderate force can be flexed. The point of balance is centered on the makers mark stamped in the blade, about an inch and three quarters above the brass ferrule. The blade feels very light and in spite of the very sharp edge, I believe is more oriented for the thrust than the cut. There is no secondary bevel that I can see until you get to the tip of the blade, the last inch or so, noticeable only because it is so unevenly ground.
The tip of the cane has a rubber pad held in place with two small tacks, I plan to put a rubber cup on the tip in the near future.
I paid around three hundred bucks for this after shipping.
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Feb 5, 2021 0:53:13 GMT
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Post by marcofthecovenant on Feb 5, 2021 1:03:26 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Feb 5, 2021 18:16:12 GMT
Thanks for the review. I found it informative. Cane tips are not hard to find. If the diameter of your cane is such that you can’t find a good fit you can shim by wrapping the shaft with tape. Also tips for tubular furniture can be used. I would advise getting a wrist strap. The commercial ones I’ve ordered over the Internet do not hold up. They are no more than a black elastic band and the UV light affects them all too soon. They would be easy to make get a model and copy it. I make mine out of a shoe string and they work differently.
Now some technique input from me FWIW. I watched your cutting technique and you put your point across showing the blade has cutting ability, more so than most if not all other sword canes, the CS HDSC exclude. We will never know on that one. However your technique is not for the street if in a tight. I don’t say that as a put down as everybody, and I mean everybody, including Lynn Thompson and myself did the same. That is to leave yourself wide open while giving a long telegraph of your intention. That’s why I reduced the roll in my CS HDSC to that of thrusting. And I was just going to give caution as to that fact. Then, and I thank from the bottom of my heart, had a thought, why cut like a rank amateur? I know the sword drill, why aren’t I using it? I just returned from a brief cutting session with the CS HDSC using the sabre manual and it works. I can deliver a cut at about maximum power without leaving myself open. Not to say it’s capable of amputation but I can now deliver a powerful cut, faster than before with less telegraphing and not leave myself as exposed. You caused me to put new life in my CS HDSC and elevated its status. 😊😊
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Post by howler on Aug 27, 2021 20:15:51 GMT
Thanks for the review. I found it informative. Cane tips are not hard to find. If the diameter of your cane is such that you can’t find a good fit you can shim by wrapping the shaft with tape. Also tips for tubular furniture can be used. I would advise getting a wrist strap. The commercial ones I’ve ordered over the Internet do not hold up. They are no more than a black elastic band and the UV light affects them all too soon. They would be easy to make get a model and copy it. I make mine out of a shoe string and they work differently. Now some technique input from me FWIW. I watched your cutting technique and you put your point across showing the blade has cutting ability, more so than most if not all other sword canes, the CS HDSC exclude. We will never know on that one. However your technique is not for the street if in a tight. I don’t say that as a put down as everybody, and I mean everybody, including Lynn Thompson and myself did the same. That is to leave yourself wide open while giving a long telegraph of your intention. That’s why I reduced the roll in my CS HDSC to that of thrusting. And I was just going to give caution as to that fact. Then, and I thank from the bottom of my heart, had a thought, why cut like a rank amateur? I know the sword drill, why aren’t I using it? I just returned from a brief cutting session with the CS HDSC using the sabre manual and it works. I can deliver a cut at about maximum power without leaving myself open. Not to say it’s capable of amputation but I can now deliver a powerful cut, faster than before with less telegraphing and not leave myself as exposed. You caused me to put new life in my CS HDSC and elevated its status. 😊😊 Do to a dog attack last night I must consider carrying my CS HDSC. I remembered your experience with dogs and sword canes and looked this up.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 27, 2021 21:49:35 GMT
I am a supporter of sword canes. Unfortunately they are illegal in some areas.
I saw earlier this week on the news a dog having taken a woman down and was going at it when passers-by’s came to her rescue. It was captured by a security camera.
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