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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 18:44:35 GMT
Here is the John Hopkins map and data coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.htmlStates and countries all have their own pages and yet more pages that some may find helpful. I find the John Hopkins pages useful. If non-political discussion is to be disallowed, just go ahead and delete this. Cheers, be well. GC
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Post by pgandy on Jan 29, 2021 21:56:46 GMT
The government announced today that my group, >58 years, is next for vaccine and should be given in February. Pfizer has suspended deliveries until mid February.
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 12, 2021 16:24:14 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Feb 12, 2021 19:14:29 GMT
Sad news.... Doctors warn that Covid will become endemic and people need to learn to live with it I suspected as such. Perhaps people will in time develop a natural immunity as with the pox, TB, etc. reducing the cases. Or the measles which has a vaccine that should be included in the series of children’s shots that many parents decide to ignore and the decease occasionally pops back up. Still looking for my shot. I ask the doc a couple of days ago when renewing my regular prescription and he was somewhat at a lose. He thought possibly the last week this month (meaning probably no sooner than mid March). He wasn’t sure of the administering location. I did find out that they would retain me for an additional ½ hour afterwards. I have to admit that idea I had of the media publicity and government proper gander that I hear is I thought, just that. Since our borders opened to air travel in August 231 tourists have been found to be infected. The latest is a group of 20 from France.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 19:24:52 GMT
Extracts of the article include;
David Heymann, professor of infectious disease epidemiology at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, warned in October that the virus appeared to be on course to become endemic. He reaffirmed his position this week during a webinar for think tank Chatham House.
Heymann cautioned that it was not yet possible to be sure of the virus’s destiny since its outcome depends on many unknown factors.
A report published by the Economist Intelligence Unit last month projected that the bulk of the adult population of advanced economies would be vaccinated by the middle of next year. In contrast, however, this timeline extends to early 2023 for many middle-income countries and even as far out as 2024 for some low-income countries.
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Public discourse on the pandemic has largely focused on those with a severe or fatal illness, whereas ongoing medical problems as a result of the virus are often either underappreciated or misunderstood.
That last bit from the end of the article relates well to my state (RI). It has only been since the holiday season here that many even took the realities seriously and despite being one state that has not gotten a great number of vaccine doses, the numbers of cases are coming back down again, since a holiday/year end peak where field offices were opening.
That there will be concerns for a long time, the articles even predate Heymann's October 2020 webinar. These discussions on daytime news were "topical throughout the past year, relating to vaccine prospects and, as related, how many years it 'might' take to see the virus wane to negligible.
A wake up call for some but many will still blow the whole episode off as societal control and nonsense. However, even some of the most extreme do realize that masks, disinfecting, hygiene and distancing do somewhat help stop the spread. Who'd have thought so?
Cheers and be well GC
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Post by howler on Feb 13, 2021 3:20:21 GMT
If seasonal, I am hopeful for more treatments and increased effectiveness on those infected to the point that prolonged hospitalization and fatality become less common than the annual flu.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 13, 2021 4:35:36 GMT
Four of the common cold pathogens are coronaviruses. In a few years perhaps five. I'm still waiting for my covid shot too, despite I'm in the second group because I'm nursing my 93/94 y. old parents. Afaik we in Germany are half through the first group.
Exactly a year ago I had an extremely heavy cold with lack of taste and pneumonia, I had to take antibiotics for the first time in 25 years. Was it covid, dunno? There were the first cases in Germany reported around this time. My brother and his wife had it too and made tests a few month later with negative results. But, since then I didn't catch even a simple cold, a whole year now. No handshakes, distance and masks in public transport have some advantages too.
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 13, 2021 19:23:54 GMT
Four of the common cold pathogens are coronaviruses. In a few years perhaps five. I'm still waiting for my covid shot too, despite I'm in the second group because I'm nursing my 93/94 y. old parents. Afaik we in Germany are half through the first group. Exactly a year ago I had an extremely heavy cold with lack of taste and pneumonia, I had to take antibiotics for the first time in 25 years. Was it covid, dunno? There were the first cases in Germany reported around this time. My brother and his wife had it too and made tests a few month later with negative results. But, since then I didn't catch even a simple cold, a whole year now. No handshakes, distance and masks in public transport have some advantages too. You should have a covid antibody test done to see if you already had it.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 13, 2021 19:46:49 GMT
It's possible that after a few months (in case of my brother) or a year now the usual antibody tests don't work any more and give false negative results. And it's not sure that I can't be reinfected at least in a way that is dangerous for my parents. So I behave like I didn't have it anyway. ... and it's really nice to have no cold.
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Post by pgandy on Feb 13, 2021 23:58:16 GMT
It's going on about 2 years now since I had a cold. I think the preventative measures against COVID-19 helped.
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Post by pgandy on Mar 2, 2021 13:11:47 GMT
The news last night stated that there was a possibility that the vaccinated could spread the disease. Has anyone heard about this?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Mar 2, 2021 13:51:05 GMT
Afaik it's not clear if they can spread the disease or not.
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Post by pellius on Mar 2, 2021 14:39:39 GMT
The news last night stated that there was a possibility that the vaccinated could spread the disease. Has anyone heard about this? This is deeply troubling. Are there data supporting the efficacy of the/a vaccine in the general population? Are there data indicating whether a person can be re-infected with the same strain after an earlier infection and recovery? There were early anecdotal reports of negative reactions to the/a vaccine in persons previously infected. Are there any data supporting or refuting this? Are there any data regarding how long an infected person can spread infection? I don’t want to clog up this thread. Links to reliable information are welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 17:03:58 GMT
It is fairly simple people. Word of mouth, the media and misunderstandings. If the person being vaccinated had been sick, or is in the process (incubating) of getting sick, that person may be still shedding the microbes. Hence, a vaccinated person should still be practicing distancing and wearing a mask until there is no indication of being sick and beyond. Keep in mind that even those that have never had any symptoms have tested positive for the virus antibodies. It is the philosophy as before that "I'm not sick, I don't need a mask" and now "I'm vaccinated, I'm immune, I don't need a mask"
Testing, hospitalizations, recoveries, testing and death are what data/evidence we have.
I can somewhat applaud the "I've been vaccinated" thread but at the same time won't be posting to it. Texas deaths will soon surpass New York deaths and California has had some 10,000 more this past month.
My own big little state of RI typically has crazy looking numbers but that said, one in ten in my town has been sick. Vaccine programs are still at the crawling stage and I have only recently applied (I fit the above 65 category) with only two state run mass vaccination sites. My town was just finishing the over 75 lottery. There are still no state program contracts to get to the home vaccinations. The doses are being parceled out as it arrives but even the distribution state to state is uneven. The determinations being made mostly by the numbers of extremely sick per population. RI is about 1,000,000 people. Most of the population over the age of 50. The vaccination numbers thus far are:
First Doses Administered 189,139 Second Doses Administered 76,451 People Fully Vaccinated 76,451 Total Doses Administered 265,590
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Post by pgandy on Mar 2, 2021 17:51:07 GMT
The news last night stated that there was a possibility that the vaccinated could spread the disease. Has anyone heard about this? This is deeply troubling. Are there data supporting the efficacy of the/a vaccine in the general population? Are there data indicating whether a person can be re-infected with the same strain after an earlier infection and recovery? There were early anecdotal reports of negative reactions to the/a vaccine in persons previously infected. Are there any data supporting or refuting this? Are there any data regarding how long an infected person can spread infection? I don’t want to clog up this thread. Links to reliable information are welcome. That’s the first only time I heard of this and is the reason for my question. I am somewhat limited to the news, my cable company not only dropped ABC, NBC, and ABC, and a German station that I use to listen to.
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Post by pellius on Mar 2, 2021 18:20:53 GMT
Thanks pgandy. Sources of information (as opposed to hyperbole, opinion, anecdotal conclusory “analysis,” and political/sociological condescension) are very tough to come by up here in Florida, too. AT&T’s DTV cut CBS and several local stations for me, and I suspect its spin-off and minority stake sale to a private equity firm will accelerate the loss-of-news trend.
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Post by pgandy on Mar 2, 2021 19:21:39 GMT
Let me make it clear, I said above possibility, the media used word “prueba” which translates into proof, test, evidence and more. I have seen nothing positively stating a fact. That’s why I was asking if anyone had heard of this. It boils down to a translation issue as much as anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 21:10:03 GMT
theconversation.com/can-vaccinated-people-still-spread-the-coronavirus-155095www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.htmlvictr.vumc.org/community-faq/#:~:text=The%20vaccine%20is%20designed%20to,(1.19.20) www.pressherald.com/2021/03/01/can-vaccinated-people-still-spread-the-coronavirus/Am I going to post all Google About 119,000,000 results (1.57 seconds) ? No but here are some free radio links www.live-radio.net/info.shtmlradio.garden/visit/barquisimeto/RRLt4q1byoutube rebroadcasts all the us whitehouse covid briefings and a whole lot more. I'll not link you all those. from the 28th Anthony Fauci said last week on CNN that “it is conceivable, maybe likely,” that vaccinated people can get infected with the coronavirus and then spread it to someone else, and that more will be known about this likelihood “in some time, as we do some follow-up studies.” CDC Director Rochelle Walensky had been no more definitive on Meet the Press a few days before, where she told the host, “We don’t have a lot of data yet to inform exactly the question that you’re asking.”www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/02/post-vaccination-risk-is-a-false-dilemma/618149/Take it from those few sound bytes and dilute by however many rereading the news. Search terms can be pretty simple.. I adore the radio.garden link, shared by a nice lady friend
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Post by pgandy on Mar 2, 2021 22:10:10 GMT
Thanks Edelweiss. That did it, especially the first link.
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Post by pgandy on May 1, 2021 23:35:11 GMT
Things have turned for the worse here, beginning in early April. I thought with the more relaxed attitude things would take an upward swing because of Easter but WOW. The hospitals are registering 4 patients/hr. That’s not counting those that are not admitted.
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