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Post by rfh on Jan 9, 2021 3:09:30 GMT
Can anyone here please tell me what I have? I originally thought it was a French or German import m1860 Officer’s Saber, but I am told it isn’t because of the flat grip. The grip is sharkskin I believe. It does not have a maker’s mark. Thanks in advance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 7:42:33 GMT
Welcome aboard
I'm glad you made it. Give it some time. My impression from the inside of the guard is that it's third republic French but I don't have the books or experience with all the French swords. An officer might have ordered most anything.
Cheers GC
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Post by rfh on Jan 9, 2021 20:34:02 GMT
Welcome aboard I'm glad you made it. Give it some time. My impression from the inside of the guard is that it's third republic French but I don't have the books or experience with all the French swords. An officer might have ordered most anything. Cheers GC Thanks! Hopefully I will receive a definite answer on this saber.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 6:52:13 GMT
The facebook consensus is that it is Belgian.
Lawrence Nabozniak posted it Saturday and when I ran it by the crowd, I was redirected to the replies.
Cheers GC
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Post by rfh on Jan 10, 2021 17:28:00 GMT
The blade is 35 inches.
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Post by jimmythedonut on Jan 12, 2021 1:32:58 GMT
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Post by pellius on Jan 12, 2021 1:56:23 GMT
Nice saber; very interesting.
I have what I believe to be a Belgian Cavalry Trooper Saber made by Gebruder Weyersberg of Solingen, which is a German copy of the French model 1822. My understanding is that Belgium began issuing these Solingen clones around 1834.
Mine, being a trooper variant, has the common wire-wrapped leather grip. The OP’s square shagreen-wrapped grip is something I had not seen before. (Of course, there is much in the world I haven’t seen before.) Mine also has a standard German version of the Montmorency blade.
I presume Belgian officers had discretion similar to their French counterparts. I must say, though, that the non-Montmorency single fullered blade has a decidedly AN## feel to it, similar to the preceding Belgian m1802’s. Is this possibly a rehilted 1802 blade with a custom officer’s 1834 hilt?
I’m just speculating.
Anyway, if a definite identification is made, please post it!
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Post by rfh on Jan 13, 2021 2:07:27 GMT
Nice saber; very interesting. I have what I believe to be a Belgian Cavalry Trooper Saber made by Gebruder Weyersberg of Solingen, which is a German copy of the French model 1822. My understanding is that Belgium began issuing these Solingen clones around 1834. Mine, being a trooper variant, has the common wire-wrapped leather grip. The OP’s square shagreen-wrapped grip is something I had not seen before. (Of course, there is much in the world I haven’t seen before.) Mine also has a standard German version of the Montmorency blade. I presume Belgian officers had discretion similar to their French counterparts. I must say, though, that the non-Montmorency single fullered blade has a decidedly AN## feel to it, similar to the preceding Belgian m1802’s. Is this possibly a rehilted 1802 blade with a custom officer’s 1834 hilt? I’m just speculating. Anyway, if a definite identification is made, please post it! Interesting. What do you mean by AN##?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 10:59:42 GMT
French First Empire date stuff.
An ANXI sword would be an 1810. Montmorency, meaning no small fuller by the spine.
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Post by pellius on Jan 13, 2021 19:04:21 GMT
French First Empire date stuff. An ANXI sword would be an 1810. Montmorency, meaning no small fuller by the spine. Yes, that’s what I meant. I think edelweiss’s terminology is superior to mine, and I’ll try to include it in the future. Thanks! 🙂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 22:39:03 GMT
It's actually the French Revolutionary dating method but an ANXI would be 1810 and after the first republic.
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Post by rfh on Jan 14, 2021 2:13:25 GMT
Thanks guys!
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