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Post by demented on Oct 28, 2020 18:53:47 GMT
What interpretation of George Silver do you prefer? I like Stephen Hand's interpretation but outside of the slow hand there dosnt seem to be much of a difference. Edelson and Winslow seem to ex pand on Austwicks theory but choose to ignore certain important bits of context just for the sake of making thier interpretations work. historicalfencer.com/an-alternative-interpretation-of-the-true-fight-of-george-silver/Stephen Hand has a free PDF available here that goes over his refutal to Edelsons interpretation of Silvers true times. Also has his other work available for sale stephen-hand.selz.com/
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Post by markus313 on Dec 30, 2020 22:32:46 GMT
Kinda fits in here, doesn’t it
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Post by silverite on May 3, 2021 3:34:12 GMT
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Post by silverite on May 3, 2021 3:45:17 GMT
Winslow just put out some videos on his interpretation
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Post by silverite on May 3, 2021 5:38:09 GMT
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Post by markus313 on May 3, 2021 7:11:00 GMT
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Post by silverite on May 3, 2021 15:32:33 GMT
I have been in (more seen on facebook) discussions with both Hand ,Wagner , and Winslow in the past including when that video was made. Wagner does not understand the alternative interpretation and neither does Hand, I stated why above. That Silvernomicon is not only inaccurate but poorly done, it was a smear video nothing more. To be clear I am not questioning Hand's or Wagner's interpretation of George Silver(even though I don't agree with it) but I will call bullsemprini on their interpretation of Winslow/Edelson & Austwics interpretation of Silver, I have actually read the interpretation and talked with those guys on social media. The discussion has been going back and forth for a bit on the George Silver Society Facebook page. m.facebook.com/groups/448543942003196
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Post by Razor on May 5, 2021 5:45:24 GMT
I have been doing martial arts and formally training with the sword since 1991 and started doing HEMA around 2005. I started working with Silver in 2008. When I first saw the video with Winslow/Edelson, It looked like Edelson's interpretation was to support his cutting style. When Edelson cuts tatami he steps then cuts. No where in the fight books say to do that. They either say hand goes first or is the foot goes first you don't know the art. For years people have been giving him crap for it. It's a lot easier just to use Silver and some says that he cuts in false times. So I can see Edelson, make a new interpretation for his on agenda.
I have read a lot of the discussions online and I seen people who are for the "new interpretation" bassing on the old interpretation and anyone that uses it. So I can see why Wagner acts the way he does in the videos.
When I finally saw Winslow's videos, I couldn't believe this is supposed to be new and improved. I don't like it at all. It's really a waste of time to try it out. When I see new interpretations on any style that I do, I try it put and see how it does and if it works. If it's better than my interpretation I will add it. if it doesn't I won't change mine, but it can also give me new ideas and I might find a better way. Plan and simple the interpretation in Winslow's video sucked and Silvernomicon ll is pretty accurate. Since then it looks like Winslow has changed his tune and isn't as aggressive or his followers. I also seen the online discussions with Austwic and Wanger/Hand about true and false times.
For me the T&F times are both the correct sequence in movement and in measure.
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Post by treeslicer on May 8, 2021 10:59:22 GMT
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