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Post by uzitm on Aug 6, 2020 15:25:08 GMT
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Post by Uhlan on Aug 7, 2020 8:02:56 GMT
S & K a Solingen.Signed like this, according to Bezdek, 1787 - 1811 and 1811 - 1864. According to l'Hoste: SKC in the early period and S & K in the second period. Forgetting about the Officers blue and gild, the sabre sec could be a Prussian M1808 if the guard is very thick, (at least of M1811 proportions) which I cannot see. It seems also to be close to the much later M1873 Uhlan sabre, but yours has langets, so that is probably too far out, though S & K made those too. If it is the Prussian M1808, it is pictured at page 170 in Bezdek. Note that the Bezdek M1808 is a trooper sabre with a secondary fuller under the spine. Also note that the M1808 is, to say the least, very rare, be it in trooper or Officer format. (NCO - Officer) Sabres based on the M1811 design though were export fodder and turn up all over the world, so my guess is that your sabre is the latter. Cleaning rust from the blue is almost impossible without destroying said blue. What you could do is going over it, very gently, with cotton tips and acetone to get it at least clean and free of dirt, grease and lose rust. You could sharpen a very small lock smith screw driver and try to pick off some of the thicker rust. You need a good magnifying glass to do that. But in principle the only thing one can do safely is removing dirt and grease and be very gentle about that. You cannot take off all the rust as that would result in the white steel showing up. Removing dirt with Q tips and acetone may get you good results as what remains of the blue will be much brighter. Do not use WD40 or other oil, but Ren wax to preserve the blade. Oils attract dust and absorb this, so the process will start again. Ren wax forms a hard layer one can clean with a brush or soft cloth and it hardly affects the interaction with the blue layer and the light. Oils and grease make the blue look brown purple and washed out again. About the grip: If possible I lift the lose leather with a tooth pick and with a very small brush try to get some good glue under it. When the lose bits are safe I preserve with Ren wax again. No cleaning with all kind of modern stuff as the rest of the leather may come lose too or just crumble. Yes, I am a great fan of Ren wax. Hope this helps a bit.
Cheers.
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Post by uzitm on Aug 7, 2020 9:26:11 GMT
Thank you sir. Your information is always very useful. The blade is 83 cm long and 3.2 cm wide. I also photographed the sheath. It can help identify the type of sword. Attachments:
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Post by Uhlan on Aug 8, 2020 16:24:15 GMT
The scabbard looks like a French AN XI scabbard, at least the mounts do. Note that according to what I once read on Passion Militaria, these were made well into the second half of the 19th century by Solingen. These mounts are only one of the about three basic mount types of the AN XI made for NCOs or Officers. The decoration is not telling us much. Only that it is, again, not standard. What the M1811 style hilt does on top of that blade I do not know. Have never seen anything like this combination. I am afraid I cannot say anything other than to try lay this enigma on Passion Militaria: www.passionmilitaria.com/f165-armes-blanchesMaybe they can help you further.
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