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Post by Bullethead247 @ on Jun 4, 2020 21:06:33 GMT
I am considering the purchase of a CAS HANWEI YANONE KATANA BY DRAGON KING SD35330. But I can't find any reviews on it anywhere. Is it 65mn or T-10? I have seen it advertised both ways. Any info or opinions would be appreciated.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 5, 2020 0:11:30 GMT
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Post by Bullethead247 @ on Jun 5, 2020 6:10:41 GMT
No its from e bay. I know sketchy right and only 10 feed back in 12 months but at 100% positive and most of them in the last few months It also ships from the USA and are almost exclusive to Hanwei swords. But aside from that I can't find any feed back on that sword anywhere.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 5, 2020 6:19:04 GMT
You asked for product info like steel, there it is. Dragon King is another sub-brand of CAS Iberia, like the "sister" Hanwei. Not a bad sign. If you can't find reviews try a search here in the forum or perhaps amazon feedbacks.
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Post by Bullethead247 @ on Jun 5, 2020 8:56:21 GMT
Which sword d you think is better? This dragon king or the hanwei practical elite with the 1566 blade.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 5, 2020 9:05:09 GMT
Sorry, no idea, I don't own one of them I have a few Hanwei kats and I'd assume that there isn't a difference in quality between Hanwei and DK. At least I've never read of. There also is little difference in the steels. One thing I experienced is that the Hanwei cutting desingn blades (XL, XL light, perhaps Elite too) are relative broad and thin, also on the heavy side. They're designed for mat cutting, not for battle or beauty.
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Post by Bullethead247 @ on Jun 5, 2020 10:46:00 GMT
The Elite is Shinogi Zukuri shape 1.35 at base 1.04 at tip. Is that wider then usual?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 5, 2020 12:14:01 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Jun 5, 2020 12:25:37 GMT
Andi looks like you bit and have opened a can of worms. As for Bullethead, you worry too much about the relatively unimportant steel type when you should be looking for the HRC which most companies are reluctant to advertise. No further here on my part so no need to ask. OK one more, this thread may be of interest. sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/60839/bought-paul-chen-oni?page=2
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Post by nddave on Jun 5, 2020 21:35:41 GMT
I own a T-10 Dragon King Hana katana. Love it personally. Nicely tapered tsuka, excellent balance and honestly a better overall package than any Hanwei or other production katana I've handled. Cant vouch for the Ebay seller but I can vouch for Dragon King's Quality control and fit and finish, at least on the model I purchased.
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Post by Bullethead247 @ on Jun 5, 2020 21:41:28 GMT
Andi.. no can of worms here. You have been very patient and helpful. I appreciate you taking the time to chat with me. I am a little OCD and like to get as much info as possible. I trust people not printed descriptions from sellers. Thank you
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Post by nddave on Jun 5, 2020 21:46:40 GMT
Checked out the model you're interested in and it looks below standard to my Hana. Faux rayskin as opposed to real, synthetic ito as opposed to silk and the tsuka is bulky and has the typical Hanwei Axehandle shape. On KultofAthena.com they have the Yanone for $285 and the Hana for a little more at $328. Personally I'd say spend a little more and get the Hana it is an amazing sword.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 5, 2020 21:54:36 GMT
No problemo, I just tried to help with mediocre experience.
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Post by Dandelion on Jun 5, 2020 22:10:02 GMT
I own a T-10 Dragon King Hana katana. Love it personally. Nicely tapered tsuka, excellent balance and honestly a better overall package than any Hanwei or other production katana I've handled. Cant vouch for the Ebay seller but I can vouch for Dragon King's Quality control and fit and finish, at least on the model I purchased. We have the one with the cherry blossom theme and we second your opinion.
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Post by vidar on Jun 12, 2020 10:33:10 GMT
Interesting thread.
I’m looking for a reliable sword to cut green bamboo. I was in first instance considering a Hanwei raptor but it seems that Dragon King has some similar swords, from 5160 steel (summer lotus or something) Does anyone have an opinion on this? Worthwhile to consider this dragon king or still better a raptor? I don’t really care about aesthetics, only that it’s well made and durable...
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Post by MOK on Jun 13, 2020 21:45:31 GMT
I can vouch for the Raptors being well made and durable, at least, as a rule. They don't look traditional and their handle shapes are somewhat unrefined - they've been described as "axe handle tsuka" - which may or may not bother you, but they are specifically built for use.
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Post by cag on Jul 5, 2020 20:26:06 GMT
i guess ill bump this since this topic is why i signed up for the forum. trying to decide between some 5160 swords: a Hanwei Raptor (normal blade length, they make a few variations), Dragon King Seasonal (idk what else to call it, they have 4 season themes, 5160 steel, seems to compete directly with the Hanwei Raptors, Kult of Athena only has the Summer Lotus version in stock) and also considering the ZT Apokatana which i know isn't really a katana but more of a katana-inspired modern sword, but apparently it is built extremely tough and is a bit heavier than a normal katana.
i'm looking for something that will be used and hold up which is why i am looking at 5160 steel options. it seems like it will give the performance i want at a price staying 500 bucks or cheaper. i'm just getting into swords recently but i have been a knife/gun person my whole life, i own a lot of knives and the hobby started migrating into swords somehow. i don't own many things that i won't use, which is why i want a sword that is going to do more than look nice and be sharp, i'm comfortable putting something tough through its paces, that is why it exists IMO. i don't keep a gun or a knife in the safe where it sits and does nothing, so this sword will be treated the same. i plan to cut a lot with it and put it through some hard use. that in particular is why i was eyeing the Zombie Tools sword, the downside being a 10+ week wait time whereas i could buy the Hanwei or Dragon King stuff right now on Kult of Athena and probably have it by the end of the week.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jul 5, 2020 21:22:42 GMT
My Raptor Shinogi Zukuri is really tough. My Apokatana is really really tough. One advantage of ZT is that you don't have problems with wooden tsuka, mekugi etc. The Raptor is a bit more nimble one handed.
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Post by nddave on Jul 6, 2020 0:40:13 GMT
Not meaning to add more woes to your purchasing endeavors but Ive seen just as many 5160 blades chip ot bend as I have T-10, 1060 or any other katana steel grade. What it comes down to more than the steel type or grade is geometry. But even then thicker geometry to a blade's profile isn't really going to balance out a lack of form or technique.
If that was the case all swords would be made of one grade of steel and we would have a significant superior steel grade that was unanimously agreed upon. As a buyer what you really need to look at is stats and construction over steel grade. Find a sword that fits you as a user in both handling and aesthetic or you will be unhappy with your purchase.
I mean sure you can always get a sword customized to your liking but that's just adding unnecessary cost if all your looking for is something to cut with here and there and practice form.
Sorry if this seems counterproductive to your approach on sword ownership but it's very disingenuous to have the impression that steel grade is going to have a real significant impact on your swords performance when there are too many other factors to take into consideration.
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Post by cag on Jul 6, 2020 1:06:58 GMT
My Raptor Shinogi Zukuri is really tough. My Apokatana is really really tough. One advantage of ZT is that you don't have problems with wooden tsuka, mekugi etc. The Raptor is a bit more nimble one handed. i was looking more at the raptors and i kind of like the Shobu Zukuri for some reason now. i've heard from a lot of sources the Raptors are quite tough built swords. still might go with the Apokatana though lol...the way i've seen people thrash it in youtube videos seems like it might be more my speed as i have a tendency/unluckiness to destroy things.
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