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Post by Zen_Hydra on Jun 3, 2020 18:15:50 GMT
I do sympathize, but please let's try to stick to "swords in the news", here. There are many far better places for commentary on the all the general and specific awfulness going on right now. My bad. Back to the topic then. Honestly I feel like a Gladius is a bad choice, a great sword was intended for crowds and can cleave people in half. If do right, no can defense.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Jun 3, 2020 23:21:26 GMT
Looks like the sheath to a CS gladius machete.
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Post by warriorpoet on Jun 4, 2020 14:33:16 GMT
I didn't click any links, but i imagine it's the same video I saw the other day.
So foolish to rush out with a threat display, swinging around wildly.
I thought he must be trying to defend his business.
Based on the video, I can't believe he is alive. He was beaten and stomped on by a large group, from all angles. While on the ground he was hit repeatedly by a rioter wielding a skateboard with two hands. At the end, he was laying unnaturally (like when someone is injured in family guy).
He is still struck several times in this state. Very quickly and efficiently, his body is checked for valuables, both back pockets checked, before the crowd moves on.
All other points aside, should he live may he gain some wisdom. I read above it was not even his business he was trying to defend.
If he has a cold steel gladius as mentioned above, that makes a fine short distance melee weapon. That said, it's a stabbing and not slashing weapon with minimal range. Why his back wasn't to the door, why he raced out into a mob with a short machete, I wonder if some kind of mental illness or other issues are involved.
If you find yourself in a violent riot, you get out of dodge. Period.
If you find yourself forced to defend your life or your business, you do so with a high capacity firearm.
There are now many reports of business owners standing in front of their stores, or on roofs, with visible firearms ("brandishing ", I suppose). This visual deterrent has been enough to prevent mob violence in many cases. However, as mentioned, there is no point in brandishing or even owning a gun if you are unprepared to use it. Taking a life is no small thing. Herein lies some serious reflection and honesty. If you aren't able to do it it's better to not have any weapons. They will be taken from you, and may go on to do harm or other evils.
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Post by howler on Jun 4, 2020 19:04:44 GMT
I didn't click any links, but i imagine it's the same video I saw the other day. So foolish to rush out with a threat display, swinging around wildly. I thought he must be trying to defend his business. Based on the video, I can't believe he is alive. He was beaten and stomped on by a large group, from all angles. While on the ground he was hit repeatedly by a rioter wielding a skateboard with two hands. At the end, he was laying unnaturally (like when someone is injured in family guy). He is still struck several times in this state. Very quickly and efficiently, his body is checked for valuables, both back pockets checked, before the crowd moves on. All other points aside, should he live may he gain some wisdom. I read above it was not even his business he was trying to defend. If he has a cold steel gladius as mentioned above, that makes a fine short distance melee weapon. That said, it's a stabbing and not slashing weapon with minimal range. Why his back wasn't to the door, why he raced out into a mob with a short machete, I wonder if some kind of mental illness or other issues are involved. If you find yourself in a violent riot, you get out of dodge. Period. If you find yourself forced to defend your life or your business, you do so with a high capacity firearm. There are now many reports of business owners standing in front of their stores, or on roofs, with visible firearms ("brandishing ", I suppose). This visual deterrent has been enough to prevent mob violence in many cases. However, as mentioned, there is no point in brandishing or even owning a gun if you are unprepared to use it. Taking a life is no small thing. Herein lies some serious reflection and honesty. If you aren't able to do it it's better to not have any weapons. They will be taken from you, and may go on to do harm or other evils. Whenever looters, arsonists, vandals saw firearms they ran in the other direction. A firebomb being thrown at your shop gets a bullet. if they break in give them a one way ticket to hell. Imagine a hundred thousand in damage and fifteen thousand covered by insurance. Sadly I don't think firearms were legal in many of these places.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Jun 4, 2020 20:11:46 GMT
Why his back wasn't to the door, why he raced out into a mob with a short machete, I wonder if some kind of mental illness or other issues are involved. You really don't need to be mentally ill to be a dumbass under stress. He probably thought he could run out, brandish it, and they'd just back off and move along. Clearly he wasn't ready to stab anyone. Bad choice, as always, to present a weapon to an angry mob without being ready to follow through.
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Post by howler on Jun 4, 2020 20:47:29 GMT
Why his back wasn't to the door, why he raced out into a mob with a short machete, I wonder if some kind of mental illness or other issues are involved. You really don't need to be mentally ill to be a dumbass under stress. He probably thought he could run out, brandish it, and they'd just back off and move along. Clearly he wasn't ready to stab anyone. Bad choice, as always, to present a weapon to an angry mob without being ready to follow through. He clearly got caught up emotionally in witnessing the wanton destruction and theft, it taking only a few seconds for him putting himself in the middle of an angry mob, with disastrous results. He's lucky he wasn't chopped up with his own blade.
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 4, 2020 23:24:05 GMT
I didn't click any links, but i imagine it's the same video I saw the other day. So foolish to rush out with a threat display, swinging around wildly. I thought he must be trying to defend his business. Based on the video, I can't believe he is alive. He was beaten and stomped on by a large group, from all angles. While on the ground he was hit repeatedly by a rioter wielding a skateboard with two hands. At the end, he was laying unnaturally (like when someone is injured in family guy). He is still struck several times in this state. Very quickly and efficiently, his body is checked for valuables, both back pockets checked, before the crowd moves on. All other points aside, should he live may he gain some wisdom. I read above it was not even his business he was trying to defend. If he has a cold steel gladius as mentioned above, that makes a fine short distance melee weapon. That said, it's a stabbing and not slashing weapon with minimal range. Why his back wasn't to the door, why he raced out into a mob with a short machete, I wonder if some kind of mental illness or other issues are involved. If you find yourself in a violent riot, you get out of dodge. Period. If you find yourself forced to defend your life or your business, you do so with a high capacity firearm. There are now many reports of business owners standing in front of their stores, or on roofs, with visible firearms ("brandishing ", I suppose). This visual deterrent has been enough to prevent mob violence in many cases. However, as mentioned, there is no point in brandishing or even owning a gun if you are unprepared to use it. Taking a life is no small thing. Herein lies some serious reflection and honesty. If you aren't able to do it it's better to not have any weapons. They will be taken from you, and may go on to do harm or other evils. Whenever looters, arsonists, vandals saw firearms they ran in the other direction. A firebomb being thrown at your shop gets a bullet. if they break in give them a one way ticket to hell. Imagine a hundred thousand in damage and fifteen thousand covered by insurance. Sadly I don't think firearms were legal in many of these places. Sadly most all business insurance policies have exclusions in coverage for "civil unrest", "war" and certain acts of god. All the filth that are rioting and looting are destroying the country. Looting is not just a crime of theft, it is a crime against the fabric of civil society. That is why looters have been executed/shot on sight thru history and IMHO should be shot on sight now too. These people are barbaric in their behavior and only the threat of death puts a stop to those who choose to be barbarians. Just ask Caesar or the Corbo family. Small businesses looted and burned by "the people" never go back... they are wiped out and then they and other businesses are accused of being racist for "redlining" such neighborhoods and not returning or opening new businesses there. Only a fool would take the only available money to rebuild...interest free loans from Government and have to repay the losses over time from their hard work and profits only to risk the next "uprising of the people". Another interesting point is that all these protesters and rioters are spreading covid19 like wildfire and given that the black community is full of "pre existing conditions", they may be facing massive infection and death but true to form, it will be someone else's fault.. .
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Post by howler on Jun 5, 2020 0:17:29 GMT
Whenever looters, arsonists, vandals saw firearms they ran in the other direction. A firebomb being thrown at your shop gets a bullet. if they break in give them a one way ticket to hell. Imagine a hundred thousand in damage and fifteen thousand covered by insurance. Sadly I don't think firearms were legal in many of these places. Sadly most all business insurance policies have exclusions in coverage for "civil unrest", "war" and certain acts of god. All the filth that are rioting and looting are destroying the country. Looting is not just a crime of theft, it is a crime against the fabric of civil society. That is why looters have been executed/shot on sight thru history and IMHO should be shot on sight now too. These people are barbaric in their behavior and only the threat of death puts a stop to those who choose to be barbarians. Just ask Caesar or the Corbo family. Small businesses looted and burned by "the people" never go back... they are wiped out and then they and other businesses are accused of being racist for "redlining" such neighborhoods and not returning or opening new businesses there. Only a fool would take the only available money to rebuild...interest free loans from Government and have to repay the losses over time from their hard work and profits only to risk the next "uprising of the people". Another interesting point is that all these protesters and rioters are spreading covid19 like wildfire and given that the black community is full of "pre existing conditions", they may be facing massive infection and death but true to form, it will be someone else's fault.. . Interesting that the weird psycho filming was actually on the side of the criminals and didn't understand the damage the evil rioters had on society. Moron talks about "insurance covering it"...yeah right. Wonder if he returned to the shop and if it is the only undamaged business on that street? What Covid, the only people forced to continue lock down are responsible precaution taking businesses & religious affiliations, NOT crowded "protest" groups...and naturally the police will enforce that. Oh the hypocritical irony.
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 5, 2020 1:33:47 GMT
Sadly most all business insurance policies have exclusions in coverage for "civil unrest", "war" and certain acts of god. All the filth that are rioting and looting are destroying the country. Looting is not just a crime of theft, it is a crime against the fabric of civil society. That is why looters have been executed/shot on sight thru history and IMHO should be shot on sight now too. These people are barbaric in their behavior and only the threat of death puts a stop to those who choose to be barbarians. Just ask Caesar or the Corbo family. Small businesses looted and burned by "the people" never go back... they are wiped out and then they and other businesses are accused of being racist for "redlining" such neighborhoods and not returning or opening new businesses there. Only a fool would take the only available money to rebuild...interest free loans from Government and have to repay the losses over time from their hard work and profits only to risk the next "uprising of the people". Another interesting point is that all these protesters and rioters are spreading covid19 like wildfire and given that the black community is full of "pre existing conditions", they may be facing massive infection and death but true to form, it will be someone else's fault.. . Interesting that the weird psycho filming was actually on the side of the criminals and didn't understand the damage the evil rioters had on society. Moron talks about "insurance covering it"...yeah right. Wonder if he returned to the shop and if it is the only undamaged business on that street? What Covid, the only people forced to continue lock down are responsible precaution taking businesses & religious affiliations, NOT crowded "protest" groups...and naturally the police will enforce that. Oh the hypocritical irony. Irony that I do not think will be lost on voters in November... It's a shame that the peaceful protesters let the rioters and looters take what could have been a cathartic "Rosa Park's moment" become hijacked by thugs and criminals, setting race relations back 20 years again.
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Post by paulmuaddib on Jun 5, 2020 10:57:58 GMT
Interesting that the weird psycho filming was actually on the side of the criminals and didn't understand the damage the evil rioters had on society. Moron talks about "insurance covering it"...yeah right. Wonder if he returned to the shop and if it is the only undamaged business on that street? What Covid, the only people forced to continue lock down are responsible precaution taking businesses & religious affiliations, NOT crowded "protest" groups...and naturally the police will enforce that. Oh the hypocritical irony. Irony that I do not think will be lost on voters in November... It's a shame that the peaceful protesters let the rioters and looters take what could have been a cathartic "Rosa Park's moment" become hijacked by thugs and criminals, setting race relations back 20 years again. Personally, I think a cop killing a black man and a some dumbass white guys(one an ex cop) killing a young black man in GA, where I live, is what set race relations back 20 years. Sure the looters in the protests don’t help.
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 5, 2020 15:15:17 GMT
Irony that I do not think will be lost on voters in November... It's a shame that the peaceful protesters let the rioters and looters take what could have been a cathartic "Rosa Park's moment" become hijacked by thugs and criminals, setting race relations back 20 years again. Personally, I think a cop killing a black man and a some dumbass white guys(one an ex cop) killing a young black man in GA, where I live, is what set race relations back 20 years. Sure the looters in the protests don’t help. ya think? LMAO The rioters and looters stole the opportunity from the people who really care like they have done EVERY time in the past. Without Dr. martin Luther King, it seems the black community cant ever have come together for the meaningful, peaceful, non violent protests that move things forward.
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Post by paulmuaddib on Jun 5, 2020 15:18:52 GMT
Personally, I think a cop killing a black man and a some dumbass white guys(one an ex cop) killing a young black man in GA, where I live, is what set race relations back 20 years. Sure the looters in the protests don’t help. I dont think aggressive cops are soley to blame, certain political parties make identity politics and favoring certain ethic groups one of thier main goals. I can think of lots of ways how the Obamas set race relations back years. Same with people like Al Sharpton, Louie Farrakahn, and Jesse Jackson, when you are wanting eye for an eye in the name of equality you run into issues. Ultimately , politicians pushing the "semprini the police" rhetoric has not helped the issues when it comes to police brutality. Everybody wants to fight the cops now but nobody wants to get shot for it. Agree completely. Lots of things have set relations back. Didn’t want to get political.
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Post by paulmuaddib on Jun 5, 2020 15:23:13 GMT
Personally, I think a cop killing a black man and a some dumbass white guys(one an ex cop) killing a young black man in GA, where I live, is what set race relations back 20 years. Sure the looters in the protests don’t help. ya think? LMAO The rioters and looters stole the opportunity from the people who really care like they have done EVERY time in the past. Without Dr. martin Luther King, it seems the black community cant ever have come together for the meaningful, peaceful, non violent protests that move things forward. Was commenting on the way you worded your statement. I know it wasn’t your intent but the statement made it seem like that was the only thing that set relations back. Again, I know that wasn’t your intent.
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Post by demented on Jun 5, 2020 16:36:03 GMT
I dont think aggressive cops are soley to blame, certain political parties make identity politics and favoring certain ethic groups one of thier main goals. I can think of lots of ways how the Obamas set race relations back years. Same with people like Al Sharpton, Louie Farrakahn, and Jesse Jackson, when you are wanting eye for an eye in the name of equality you run into issues. Ultimately , politicians pushing the "semprini the police" rhetoric has not helped the issues when it comes to police brutality. Everybody wants to fight the cops now but nobody wants to get shot for it. Agree completely. Lots of things have set relations back. Didn’t want to get political. I understand, Im actually going to delete my comments for that reason.
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Post by howler on Jun 5, 2020 19:07:30 GMT
Irony that I do not think will be lost on voters in November... It's a shame that the peaceful protesters let the rioters and looters take what could have been a cathartic "Rosa Park's moment" become hijacked by thugs and criminals, setting race relations back 20 years again. Personally, I think a cop killing a black man and a some dumbass white guys(one an ex cop) killing a young black man in GA, where I live, is what set race relations back 20 years. Sure the looters in the protests don’t help. The incident was cold blooded murder for sure, but these tragedies statistically have been reduced in a big way over the decades. I think it is the intensity (partly due to unemployed, scared people being frustrated and cooped up from lock down) and continuation of the protests during a pandemic, to say nothing of the evil looting, vandalism, riots that will hurt the movement. How many protesters will die from corona? And the damage done to poor communities because good cops will be too afraid to effectively do their jobs is another tragic variable to consider.
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Post by MOK on Jun 5, 2020 19:36:54 GMT
Whoah! Hey! Oooooooookay. This has quickly strayed very far from the topic of swords in the news and pretty damn deep into forbidden waters. Even the thorny political and moral issues aside, calling for people to be killed on sight doesn't exactly jive with the friendly atmosphere we're trying to maintain!
I see no good coming from letting this go on, so I'm locking the thread now.
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