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Post by seth on Jun 1, 2020 19:58:14 GMT
So you may have heard of the man with a sword/machete that was beat-up in Dallas. Here's an article about with some twitter shots from the alleged man himself. www.star-telegram.com/news/local/dallas/article243153526.htmlOne thing that strikes me as odd is a quote from the guy says he tried to use his "dumb machete" to hold off an angry mob. Then, there is a picture of him and the alleged sword which is actually an Anduril replica. So maybe this isn't the guy at all. In any case, you can watch the video of the man sprinting after the people waiving a sword/machete and then he gets swarmed. He's lucky he's not dead.
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Post by stormmaster on Jun 1, 2020 20:14:49 GMT
Wish it was not anduril that sullies its name
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 1, 2020 20:58:10 GMT
Wow.. what happened to the sword's "magic"? Just wasn't there for him? LMAO...never bring a sword to a riot. Something with a 30 rnd magazine would have been far more effective but then again.. it wasn't his bar so WTF was he even doing there?
As usual, "swords in the news" almost always make the collecting community look bad. Mirror mirror on the wall...lol
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Post by seth on Jun 1, 2020 22:23:51 GMT
Wow.. what happened to the sword's "magic"? Just wasn't there for him? LMAO...never bring a sword to a riot. Something with a 30 rnd magazine would have been far more effective but then again.. it wasn't his bar so WTF was he even doing there? As usual, "swords in the news" almost always make the collecting community look bad. Mirror mirror on the wall...lol Or bring your friends.
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Post by howler on Jun 2, 2020 1:50:20 GMT
Wow.. what happened to the sword's "magic"? Just wasn't there for him? LMAO...never bring a sword to a riot. Something with a 30 rnd magazine would have been far more effective but then again.. it wasn't his bar so WTF was he even doing there? As usual, "swords in the news" almost always make the collecting community look bad. Mirror mirror on the wall...lol If he was just standing in a corner and swinging to keep people in front from grabbing him then that might have worked, but running into a crowd and getting side swarmed, that sword would indeed need magical powers. Even with a gun you should keep as much space as possible.
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 2, 2020 5:08:41 GMT
Wow.. what happened to the sword's "magic"? Just wasn't there for him? LMAO...never bring a sword to a riot. Something with a 30 rnd magazine would have been far more effective but then again.. it wasn't his bar so WTF was he even doing there? As usual, "swords in the news" almost always make the collecting community look bad. Mirror mirror on the wall...lol If he was just standing in a corner and swinging to keep people in front from grabbing him then that might have worked, but running into a crowd and getting side swarmed, that sword would indeed need magical powers. Even with a gun you should keep as much space as possible. Should have kept is back to the door/wall. Sounds like he panicked and wanted to run away and was prevented from doing so...
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Post by nddave on Jun 2, 2020 14:30:49 GMT
Guess it wasnt an actual sword or Narsil for that matter but one of the Cold Steel Machete types. Either way pretty foolish to rush a riot weapon or not. Also this may sound crude or violent but a lot of these beatings happen because of second guessing. Basically if your going to defend yourself with a weapon you better be mentally prepared to use it to full lethal effect or dont use it at all.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Jun 2, 2020 14:42:44 GMT
Guess it wasnt an actual sword or Narsil for that matter but one of the Cold Steel Machete types. Either way pretty foolish to rush a riot weapon or not. Also this may sound crude or violent but a lot of these beatings happen because of second guessing. Basically if your going to defend yourself with a weapon you better be mentally prepared to use it to full lethal effect or dont use it at all. Yes. Don't advertise lethal force unless you are prepared to use it. If someone brandished a sword at me, and didn't immediately attack, you can bet that I'm not going to stand around waiting for him to work up the nerve. I generally abhor violence, especially the kind you don't recover from, but there are occasions where violence can't be avoided. When it is time for violence, it should be swift and decisive. Anything else is unethical.
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 2, 2020 15:20:45 GMT
Guess it wasnt an actual sword or Narsil for that matter but one of the Cold Steel Machete types. Either way pretty foolish to rush a riot weapon or not. Also this may sound crude or violent but a lot of these beatings happen because of second guessing. Basically if your going to defend yourself with a weapon you better be mentally prepared to use it to full lethal effect or dont use it at all. Yes. Don't advertise lethal force unless you are prepared to use it. If someone brandished a sword at me, and didn't immediately attack, you can bet that I'm not going to stand around waiting for him to work up the nerve. I generally abhor violence, especially the kind you don't recover from, but there are occasions where violence can't be avoided. When it is time for violence, it should be swift and decisive. Anything else is unethical. Too many people, gun owners as well, think the "brandishing" will solve the problem and are not mentally prepared to use force. They usually have their weapons taken from than and provide the implement of their own deaths. Having the tools of a warrior without the mindset of a warrior makes on nothing more than an armed victim.
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Post by seth on Jun 2, 2020 15:53:57 GMT
Guess it wasnt an actual sword or Narsil for that matter but one of the Cold Steel Machete types. Either way pretty foolish to rush a riot weapon or not. Also this may sound crude or violent but a lot of these beatings happen because of second guessing. Basically if your going to defend yourself with a weapon you better be mentally prepared to use it to full lethal effect or dont use it at all. Yeah it didn't look it to me either. I suppose they just grabbed an old tweet of his with Narsil/Anduril in it. I don't know the facts of this situation (differing claims as to who the aggressor was) but seeing his crumpled up body was jarring.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Jun 2, 2020 17:04:02 GMT
Yes. Don't advertise lethal force unless you are prepared to use it. If someone brandished a sword at me, and didn't immediately attack, you can bet that I'm not going to stand around waiting for him to work up the nerve. I generally abhor violence, especially the kind you don't recover from, but there are occasions where violence can't be avoided. When it is time for violence, it should be swift and decisive. Anything else is unethical. Too many people, gun owners as well, think the "brandishing" will solve the problem and are not mentally prepared to use force. They usually have their weapons taken from than and provide the implement of their own deaths. Having the tools of a warrior without the mindset of a warrior makes on nothing more than an armed victim. I think the proper mindset is largely a function of training. Using myself as an example, I grew up in a family of hunters, with a father who had suffered a nearly crippling childhood injury from a mishandled rifle (a guest hunter's), and then as a young adult I served in the army. I have a hard time imagining someone coming out the other end of that not appreciating the capacity and purpose of firearms. I hold that same understanding with swords, knives, and violence in general. It would be great if everyone could understand and agree on the nature, and appropriately measured use, of force. That's one of those theoretical pie-in-the-sky (US idiom alert) goals that probably can't be achieved. It also presupposes that people would make responsible decisions based on such an understanding, which is definitely unrealistic. People are complex. The world is complex. Our problems are complex. ...anway...I wouldn't brandish a weapon I wasn't about to use (and if we are being completely honest, I'm not likely to brandish one if I intend to use it either).
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 2, 2020 17:57:42 GMT
Too many people, gun owners as well, think the "brandishing" will solve the problem and are not mentally prepared to use force. They usually have their weapons taken from than and provide the implement of their own deaths. Having the tools of a warrior without the mindset of a warrior makes on nothing more than an armed victim. I think the proper mindset is largely a function of training. Using myself as an example, I grew up in a family of hunters, with a father who had suffered a nearly crippling childhood injury from a mishandled rifle (a guest hunter's), and then as a young adult I served in the army. I have a hard time imagining someone coming out the other end of that not appreciating the capacity and purpose of firearms. I hold that same understanding with swords, knives, and violence in general. It would be great if everyone could understand and agree on the nature, and appropriately measured use, of force. That's one of those theoretical pie-in-the-sky (US idiom alert) goals that probably can't be achieved. It also presupposes that people would make responsible decisions based on such an understanding, which is definitely unrealistic. People are complex. The world is complex. Our problems are complex. ...anway...I wouldn't brandish a weapon I wasn't about to use (and if we are being completely honest, I'm not likely to brandish one if I intend to use it either).The correct tactical approach.
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Post by bebut on Jun 2, 2020 21:43:20 GMT
The old rule of thumb is don't point a gun at anyone until you are ready to shoot. And the best advice with pointy weapons is stab/ don't slash. When you are slashing there is too much body language giving away your moves. He is lucky to be alive, maybe next riot he will have sense enough to stay home with his rifle leaned against the wall.
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Post by nerdthenord on Jun 3, 2020 0:34:23 GMT
This was sad and stupid. We have been buying more guns just in case things go south here. I mean, this was in my state.
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 3, 2020 2:37:09 GMT
Did you see where they beat a guy down and took his rifle? I'm thinking razor wire and a flamethrower might make a good investment. Nope.. just the willingness to use your weapon...
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 3, 2020 5:25:30 GMT
Nope.. just the willingness to use your weapon... True , hopefully none of us need to though. Crazy times we live in. The more i see whats going on in America today the more I think the crazy conspiracy theorists predicting a civil war aren't as crazy as I first thought.
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Post by MOK on Jun 3, 2020 16:23:31 GMT
I do sympathize, but please let's try to stick to "swords in the news", here. There are many far better places for commentary on the all the general and specific awfulness going on right now.
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