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Post by demented on May 16, 2020 16:41:13 GMT
English longsword looks rather interesting, especially the preference for a bastard sword over a longsword. I have not read any of these books Wagner wrote though. I did own Wagner's big Orange Silver book at one point but didnt really look through the longsword material.
Anyhow , Any of you Silverites have an opinion on this material? I take it Silver is probably the basis for most of the theory?
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Post by markus313 on May 16, 2020 20:17:07 GMT
Silver describes the basis of the true fight. Most others is commercialized fantasy bs to pamper wealthy wannabes
Everything from Stoccata is the real deal.
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Post by demented on May 16, 2020 23:22:19 GMT
Silver describes the basis of the true fight. Most others is commercialized fantasy bs to pamper wealthy wannabes
Everything from Stoccata is the real deal. Any idea what context Silver wouldve used the bastard sword in? I was under the impression the English mostly moved away from these swords by his time. It sucks niether him nor Swetnam "the lady killer" talked more about it more.
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Post by markus313 on May 17, 2020 15:01:02 GMT
Silver describes the basis of the true fight. Most others is commercialized fantasy bs to pamper wealthy wannabes
Everything from Stoccata is the real deal. Any idea what context Silver wouldve used the bastard sword in? I was under the impression the English mostly moved away from these swords by his time. It sucks niether him nor Swetnam "the lady killer" talked more about it more. Not really, frankly. A portable, more compact “quarterstaff”, ready to be carried on horseback, too (and to an extent usable also in confined spaces)? Idk. Even Meyer almost 30 years earlier claimed to try to portray the use of weapons of “old”.
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Post by demented on May 17, 2020 16:32:14 GMT
Any idea what context Silver wouldve used the bastard sword in? I was under the impression the English mostly moved away from these swords by his time. It sucks niether him nor Swetnam "the lady killer" talked more about it more. Not really, frankly. A portable, more compact “quarterstaff”, ready to be carried on horseback, too (and to an extent usable also in confined spaces)? Idk. Even Meyer almost 30 years earlier claimed to try to portray the use of weapons of “old”. True but the longsword was more popular in Germany for some reason. There is artwork that suggests people were carrying longswords far past Meyers life time despite the common misconception that the weapon was not used at all by 1550. I think it's Micheal Chidester that has a theory that Meyer was attempting to combine the longsword teachings of old with the more modern zweihander and also doing the same with dussack and messer. He was trying to modernize KDF, it could be why he designed his system the way he did. Its a pity Meyer is such a misunderstood source that gets taken at face value with the lack of thrusting and what not. m.facebook.com/hroarr/photos/?tab=album&album_id=530267220337872&ref=page_internal&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fwma%2Fcomments%2Fgf9dag%2Fcomment%2Ffq8f2p0&_rdr
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