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Post by Ryan H on May 9, 2020 0:15:40 GMT
Could this Hamon be authentic? They say it is on a T 10 steel. The pattern look to extravagant to be a differentially tempered sword. Trying to get the image to load.
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Post by Ryan H on May 9, 2020 0:17:05 GMT
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Post by Ryan H on May 9, 2020 0:29:00 GMT
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Post by treeslicer on May 9, 2020 2:21:04 GMT
It's a real hamon, BUT, it's a Chinese-produced production-sword hamon style they sometimes call "hitatsura" but isn't real hitatsura. It's closer to a peculiar extreme choji-gunome-suguha combination used by some shinto (early to mid Edo period) smiths (principally Yasutsugu linage) but it isn't really that either. Neither is it "crab claw". I strongly suspect that it's done by pressing a piece of expanded metal into the clay before quenching. There's nothing traditional Japanese quite like it. You used to see more of it a couple of years ago. The sword should cut fine.
Now, do you already own this sword or what? If you don't then please post a link to the ad.
It will be easier for you to post things if you join the forum rather than use "Guest", BTW.
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Post by Ryan H on May 9, 2020 19:09:54 GMT
My biggest concern is that it is from an E-Bay seller.They seem to be a good seller but you really don't know. Another question..Is 1095 and T-10 steel basically the same? I have come across a few different sellers (not from E bay) that list both of the metals for the same sword in its description.
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Post by Ryan H on May 9, 2020 19:46:52 GMT
Also when you say production sword do you mean factory or hand made.They claim it is hand made yet they have 10 available.
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Post by paulmuaddib on May 9, 2020 20:14:14 GMT
Also when you say production sword do you mean factory or hand made.They claim it is hand made yet they have 10 available. Production can be both. Your probably thinking factory production means cnc machines cutting out blanks but a factory can also be power hammers and a production line with workers doing individual jobs. Go to the SBG website and look at the pictures of ‘hammer town’ forges(factories) and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Edit: handmade can mean some machining such as power hammers can be used.
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Post by Ryan H on May 9, 2020 21:17:57 GMT
In your opinion do you think this blade was made using a power hammer? Is there even a way to tell how it was done by the picture or is that where buying from a reputable seller comes in?
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Post by paulmuaddib on May 9, 2020 21:29:13 GMT
Not sure there is a way to tell from a picture. But whether from a power hammer or a handheld hammer the result is basically the same. And ancient Chinese used water powered hammers in some forges. Power hammers are not considered less than forging by hand (at least that’s what I’ve gathered in my reading) just ultimately less strain on the human body. L. Driggers, a blade smith on this forum, just got one and I don’t think anyone in here would think less of any work he did with it. Hope to be able to afford something from him someday.
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Post by MOK on May 9, 2020 22:25:08 GMT
In your opinion do you think this blade was made using a power hammer? Is there even a way to tell how it was done by the picture or is that where buying from a reputable seller comes in? No, there's no way to tell, neither from photos nor in person - but that's alright as it doesn't make any kind of material difference, anyway. PS. Well, if you inspected an item very closely, and the final shaping and polish had not removed all marks from forging, you might be able to deduce by the (ir)regularity of the marks whether it was done by muscle or machine power, as muscle powered strikes would show more variation. But it would make no difference at all to the quality of the item.
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Post by treeslicer on May 9, 2020 22:37:14 GMT
My biggest concern is that it is from an E-Bay seller.They seem to be a good seller but you really don't know. Another question..Is 1095 and T-10 steel basically the same? I have come across a few different sellers (not from E bay) that list both of the metals for the same sword in its description. Not everybody agrees on accuracy of steel types posted in Chinese ads, whether eBay or independent websites. I'm not sure either, but I have some of both (claimed) 1095 and T10, and find no difference in the performance of DH blades made of either. I'll note that a lot of eBay ads are rife with typos and cut-and-paste errors to begin with. When the heading, photos, and the description disagree (not uncommon, and not just on Chinese sword ads), you have to contact the seller to ask what they really meant.
Nearly all of my swords came from sellers with stores on eBay. Several large US outfits like MRI/Atlanta Cutlery sell on eBay as well. There's even reliable Japan-based nihonto and antique fitting sellers on eBay that I've gotten some wonderful stuff from. Not everybody there is a weasel. The beauty of eBay used with Paypal is the double-whammy of buyer protection that you get from using them.
Now, like I asked you before, what's the link to the ad you are considering. If I could see the whole sword, the price, and who the seller is, I might have a better idea of whether you're about to get ripped off or not.
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Post by Ryan H on May 9, 2020 23:16:09 GMT
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Post by treeslicer on May 9, 2020 23:27:46 GMT
Thanks, but I don't need one. That hamon is flashy. Looks fine to me, as does their feedback. Since it's a "make offer" sale, offer them say, $160 and see if they take it. Good luck.
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Post by Ryan H on May 9, 2020 23:51:55 GMT
I got him down to 170.00. Thank you for all your help. I will post a seller and sword review after I receive it.
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Post by John U. on Dec 29, 2020 23:53:25 GMT
Ryan, I’m curious to hear your thoughts on the quality of the item you received from this seller. I’m also interested in purchasing a katana from this seller, but have my concerns since it’s on eBay. Does your item match the pictures? Is everything that they listed under “features” accurate, from what you can tell?
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