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Post by herrjakob on Mar 15, 2020 3:22:48 GMT
Hello, I have a saber which I believe is from Prussia. I believe this is from there because I took this blade to a military museum and they said that it was most likely Napoleonic, in addition to my prior knowledge that my last ancestor to come from Europe during the Napoleonic era was a Prussian gentleman. My grandfather, who had this before me, said he did not buy it but inherited it. There are no obvious markings except for very small marks, one is on the hilt, it looks like a C. and possibly a D. The last marks are on the sheath, near the belt clip, there is B. and I believe a M. and finally on the bottom of the sheath where the blade sits is a R. and P. I will upload pictures of the blade and markings. Some background, my ancestor was a member of the Prussian nobility but he fled to America to escape the draft, or so a letter says. His family was quite wealthy but this blade does not seem to represent that. Like I said before I believe it is Prussian but I am not for sure. Thank you.
Sword lengths:
Sword in sheath - 2 ft. 9,1/2 in. (Hilt to tip of sheath)
Sword out of sheath - 2 ft. 7,1/4 in. (Hilt to tip of blade)
Sheath - 2 ft. 4,1/4 in. (Crossbar to tip of sheath)
Blade - 2 ft. 1,3/4 in. (Crossbar to tip of blade)
Hilt - 5,1/4 in. (Hilt to crossbar)
- Jacob Hutchins
Images: imgur.com/gallery/uoNd4lT
Update: I posted this in General Discussions and the responses pointed that the sword may be French. There was a idea that my ancestor was born in "Sarlou" which may be in reference in Saarlouis on the French border.
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Post by calien on Mar 15, 2020 8:31:55 GMT
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Post by Uhlan on Mar 15, 2020 9:01:59 GMT
Concur. Italian M1833 Inf. Off. sabre. NCO really in this plain form, but Officers models could be quite ornate, with all kinds of interesting blades. Standard model comes with a clipped point blade. This sabre is often confused (on Ebay etc) with a French ( Directoire ?) Cavalry model the Italian design was based upon. The one on the right is quite ornate but you get the idea. The little stamps are inspection stamps. The Italian system used the first letters of the Inspectors name, in a square or rectangle. The blade and the hilt were stamped this way and often by the same Inspector. Here's one called: sciabole risorgimentali una guardiani delle piazze. NCO's doing provision and stores during the Risorgimento had these too. Cheers.
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Post by herrjakob on Mar 15, 2020 16:32:50 GMT
Thank you all for your quick responses and insight.
- Jacob
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 15, 2020 18:19:27 GMT
Thank you all for your quick responses and insight. - Jacob Poster has this also posted in General Discussion. I answered there. Sabre is the 1833 pattern Italian Quartermaster and Bandsman version. Without Langets it is the heavy artillery side arm. Calamandrei pgs 84-5.
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