I have been reading and watching videos on the Cuirvasier Saber and most importantly saw a video by Matt Easton showing the saber and talking about its thrust dominance And lack of cutting ability and how he would hate to use it in close combat due to its Weight of 3lbs and its blade length of 38 inches. He stated it can still be used to club and smash Bones but I have thought of a much better idea and once I get my own will demonstrate in pictures. (I'm currently looking to see if in any french sources state this idea as well)but the simple solution to use this sword in close quarters is to Half hand it. You can grab the reigns of your horse in your right hand with your sword handle . Grasp the blade with the left hand keep hilt low and use the left to manipulate the point into thrusts, And block enemy saber slashes. In this way you can gaurd 90 degrees to your right and near 180 degrees to your left in the saddle. If thrown from your horse you can use the sword half handing again now using it as a quarter staff You can use the momentum of any enemy strike to drive your knuckle bow into there face or use the blade to block And still use the point for strong accurate thrusts. I see no reason not to use it in this way due to its weight and lack of edge it's pointless to use it one handed. Tell me what yall think or if you have any info about them using it in such a fashion. I tried it out with a long trainer I have and it worked amazingly.
Post by Jordan Williams on Mar 9, 2020 0:00:43 GMT
Not sure that will work how you want it to. The issue isn't that you can't defend well, but that the only way to offend very effectively is the point, which means you have to draw it back, and lose the advantage of the point.
I looked at your link first and questioned the cutting ability, then read your post. I don’t think your idea of half swording will work. Keep in mind it’s been a half century since I was on a horse and rode drag being the FNG and know nothing of cavalry tactics except what I’ve read and they were mostly British but should apply to the French as well. I don’t know about the troopers but the officers trained their horses, being theirs, to act a certain way in combat and the officer and horse worked together and probably the trooper did also to a lesser extent. Remember the horse was not his other than a loaner and belonged the government. If you have the reins in one hand and start jerking them around in order to short sword I grit my teeth at the horse's reactions. The Brits used the reins in the left hand and sword in the right. The rein hand was a prime target as once it was cut or the reins severed the rider would lose control of his horse and his combat efficiency. The Brits had no trouble giving point when they made up their minds to do so but instinct encouraged them to cut or maybe I should say hack. I can only guess at the sword models they used by year and AO. But it was a common complaint that their sabres were too heavy and grip too large and pointed out the tulwars as a comparison. And their sabres didn’t weigh near 3 lbs. At 3 lbs I'd say it would be a bit sluggish and fatiguing. I suspect it wasn’t suited for a melee but being a HC sword to overrun the enemy and move on. I cannot speak from experience.
This stuff comes up and all I can think about is the final duel in Rob Roy, where a giant with a highland broadsword takes on an expert small sword duelist and splits him in two.
I respect Matt Easton's professionalism. But when it comes to cavalry swords Matt should get a blank blank horse.
I own 16 French HC pallasche, covering the period from 1804-95. True the pallasche does not promote a fine edge, but if you cut to head on a trotting horse, with a 3 lb sword and connect, your victim will most likely be traumatized and bait for the next rider to finish off. Cavalry swords are used in massed formations, knee to knee. If the formation breaks you try to withdraw, reform and charge again.
The pallasche is balanced and tapered to the hand. It is easier to cut with than suggested by occasional users.
Half swording mounted. If you want to try let me know, so I can bring my camera.... LOL.
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French heavy cavalry were trained to use them for close combat melees against infantry and cavalrymen; of course the attacks with the point were much more devastating but cutting was also used much more frequently than thought (to defend, disengage, neautralize an enemy limb, head etc).
Prime example is with Dragoons in Spain: either when mounted or dismounted action, skirmish, clearing of villages and house to house fighting there are reports of them using their swords along their rifles + bayonets.
Half swording this model on foot might work fine, why not. On horse it will be very counterproductive for a multitude of reasons as stated above.
But with the proper technique any sword will do what you require of it, just don't let the size intimidate you...or believe anything Matt Easton says...
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