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Post by newswordbro on Jan 27, 2020 19:18:00 GMT
Hey! I’m fairly new to sword (and weapon) collecting, and I scour eBay every now and then to see if I can find anything good, and I happened across this, which caught my eye, and I was wondering if you guys could help me distinguish authentic from cheap and fake. As always, thank you! Also, it looks like the golden passport from Uncharted 2 and that’s cool. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202763042516
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Post by Lord Newport on Jan 27, 2020 19:41:37 GMT
Hey! I’m fairly new to sword (and weapon) collecting, and I scour eBay every now and then to see if I can find anything good, and I happened across this, which caught my eye, and I was wondering if you guys could help me distinguish authentic from cheap and fake. As always, thank you! Also, it looks like the golden passport from Uncharted 2 and that’s cool. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202763042516Authentic is never cheap...and fake is always expensive as it is money you have pissed away.
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Post by newswordbro on Jan 27, 2020 19:51:28 GMT
Hey! I’m fairly new to sword (and weapon) collecting, and I scour eBay every now and then to see if I can find anything good, and I happened across this, which caught my eye, and I was wondering if you guys could help me distinguish authentic from cheap and fake. As always, thank you! Also, it looks like the golden passport from Uncharted 2 and that’s cool. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202763042516Authentic is never cheap...and fake is always expensive as it is money you have pissed away. Got it! Thank you!
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 28, 2020 0:46:50 GMT
Well you have to give the seller credit, nowhere in the description did he imply it was an antique only unique and that it is. If you like it and you can afford it go for it.
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Post by newswordbro on Jan 28, 2020 0:51:58 GMT
Well you have to give the seller credit, nowhere in the description did he imply it was an antique only unique and that it is. If you like it and you can afford it go for it. You do have a point, he’s not selling it as an antique, simply a unique conversation piece.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 28, 2020 2:01:59 GMT
If the price is too good to be true either the seller is dumb or selling junk. Usually the later. You did the right thing by asking before you pay. If you're new to sales it can take a couple of years to get a feel for the market. I spent thousands are rookie mistakes. Consider myself lucky to get burned so little having turned to antiques for a lot of things.
Having an exotic curio that strikes your fancy is fine. Doesn't have to be an antique, as long as you know the difference.
Welcome aboard.
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Post by alexkjren on Jan 29, 2020 20:18:01 GMT
I've been studying swords off and on as an amateur for about 15 years and I would NEVER buy from Ebay. I know of a few people who have a LOT more knowledge and experience than me who've made 1 or 2 good Ebay buys so it's possible.
But if you're a beginner: stay AWAY from Ebay!!!
What exactly are you looking for? Authentic antiques or good quality reproductions? Do you want something decorative for display purposes, or something functional to practice martial arts and do test cutting?
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Post by newswordbro on Feb 4, 2020 8:46:10 GMT
I've been studying swords off and on as an amateur for about 15 years and I would NEVER buy from Ebay. I know of a few people who have a LOT more knowledge and experience than me who've made 1 or 2 good Ebay buys so it's possible. But if you're a beginner: stay AWAY from Ebay!!! What exactly are you looking for? Authentic antiques or good quality reproductions? Do you want something decorative for display purposes, or something functional to practice martial arts and do test cutting? I would prefer a functional antique, but I know those are harder to come by.
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Post by newswordbro on Feb 4, 2020 8:46:43 GMT
If the price is too good to be true either the seller is dumb or selling junk. Usually the later. You did the right thing by asking before you pay. If you're new to sales it can take a couple of years to get a feel for the market. I spent thousands are rookie mistakes. Consider myself lucky to get burned so little having turned to antiques for a lot of things. Having an exotic curio that strikes your fancy is fine. Doesn't have to be an antique, as long as you know the difference. Welcome aboard. Thank you for helping out a rookie like me!
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Post by seth on Feb 5, 2020 0:02:08 GMT
United Cutlery did a dagger like that from the 90's movie the Shadow. I remember the film because the faces bit someone and it was in several catalogs after that. Don't think it's the exact same one but it looks like it was made in that same vein.
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Post by newswordbro on Feb 5, 2020 0:10:54 GMT
United Cutlery did a dagger like that from the 90's movie the Shadow. I remember the film because the faces bit someone and it was in several catalogs after that. Don't think it's the exact same one but it looks like it was made in that same vein. Oh okay, that’s cool! Thank you!
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Post by alexkjren on Feb 13, 2020 17:48:18 GMT
I've been studying swords off and on as an amateur for about 15 years and I would NEVER buy from Ebay. I know of a few people who have a LOT more knowledge and experience than me who've made 1 or 2 good Ebay buys so it's possible. But if you're a beginner: stay AWAY from Ebay!!! What exactly are you looking for? Authentic antiques or good quality reproductions? Do you want something decorative for display purposes, or something functional to practice martial arts and do test cutting? I would prefer a functional antique, but I know those are harder to come by. I personally would never actually use an antique for anything more than gentle dry handling, maybe, and definitely NO cutting! If I'm ever fortunately enough to be able to afford an antique then I'll be able to afford to commission someone to make a fully functional reproduction for cutting practice. But that's just me. You do you. The only person I know off top of my head that routinely sells antiques is Matt Easton, AKA Schola Gladatoria. He's got a really good Youtube channel that's worth looking through and he sells swords on this site: www.antique-swords.co.uk/ I believe he primarily specializes in 18-19th century items so I don't know if that fits your interests. But might be worth looking at.
Good luck and post pics when you get something! Alex
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Post by bebut on Feb 13, 2020 20:52:45 GMT
There are antiques and there are antiques. I have a French yataghan bayonet sword that would be a great SD/HD tool and back yard bottle cutter! I haven't use it much because I have so many others, but it has a great feel to it plus the charm of being real military issue and a century and a half old.There are a ton of them out there in the $100 range in good useable condition and they will "never" be rare. Then again, if I wanted a collectable I would splurge on one in mint shape or buy a British or Danish one and probably never use it as a cutter because they are rarer and more expensive. The same with the Argentine 1909 bolo machete/sword.
As far as ebay, I am getting more and more careful. Some bargains to be had and some odd items you can find that might take years and hundreds of miles of driving to find elsewhere, but a lot of junk, too.
Short answer- if you are new buy on koa or acc or sbg store. Long answer-
1) scrutinize the sellers track record. Anything under 98.8% or so is a gigantic red flag. Click on it and see how many SALES not transactions they have had. See if they responded to complaints. 2) Buy from new sellers at your own risk. Their stuff often goes cheap because people like me have been burned too many times and don't bid. Seller or ebay usually makes good on it but there is a hassle factor to appeals. One time ebay made me make a police report which was a nuisance for everyone, including the local police. 3) Only bid when you are going to be home to seriously inspect the merchandise and have time for returns. 4)Look at pictures carefully, every one, with magnification and if you have any doubts email seller or don't bid.Some ebay sellers pretend to be ignorant when they know exactly what they are selling. "I found it at an estate sale and don't really know what it is" 5) Look at the "in fewer words" section on the bottom of the listing. There can be some good stuff there that other bidders don't see but double scrutinize it to see why it wasn't listed in the main section. 6) Last but not least, on some items (mostly electronics) the mfd will not honor the warranty if the seller is not an authorized seller. You usually have the ebay or amazon 30 day guarantee, but you are on your own after that.
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Post by newswordbro on Mar 6, 2020 0:08:46 GMT
Wow! All of this is great information, thank you!!
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Post by RufusScorpius on Mar 11, 2020 18:13:20 GMT
What's meant by "authentic" anyways? That knife looks like a fantasy blade or a modern reproduction. If you like it, buy it. But don't think for a minute that it's a collector's piece by any definition.
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Post by MOK on Mar 11, 2020 20:47:32 GMT
What's meant by "authentic" anyways? That knife looks like a fantasy blade or a modern reproduction. If you like it, buy it. But don't think for a minute that it's a collector's piece by any definition. This particular one may be a modern reproduction, but it's based on a type of Buddhist ceremonial knife that's plenty "real" enough. (As, indeed, featured in the flawed but fun The Shadow movie.)
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