Hank
Member
cultivating a vigourous spirit
Posts: 23
|
Post by Hank on Jan 14, 2020 23:20:38 GMT
I am curious about finding a British Infantry Officers sword (or any sword for that matter) attributed to a specific individual. Kind of like a reverse lookup on a sword from an owners name. Are their resources/databases to do that sort of thing?
|
|
|
Post by Sir Thorfinn on Jan 15, 2020 13:42:55 GMT
My first thought is Matt Easton, on you tube he does 'scholagladitoria'. He runs an antiques arms sales company, and looks up folks history when he gets a particular blade. I'm sure there are other resources, I just need a gallon of coffee to start thinking of them right now. Interesting thought you have here...you trying to find swords once owned by family?
|
|
|
Post by Jayhawk on Jan 15, 2020 14:30:00 GMT
|
|
Hank
Member
cultivating a vigourous spirit
Posts: 23
|
Post by Hank on Jan 15, 2020 16:20:11 GMT
Seems like they need the serial number to start the search.
|
|
|
Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 15, 2020 16:27:54 GMT
Your best bet would be to either make multiple want to buy listings across multiple forums, or to search "individuals name" + sword in Google
|
|
|
Post by Lord Newport on Jan 15, 2020 16:32:48 GMT
Your best bet would be to either make multiple want to buy listings across multiple forums, or to search "individuals name" + sword in Google Unfortunately that would probably just invite fakes.....
|
|
|
Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 15, 2020 16:36:25 GMT
Your best bet would be to either make multiple want to buy listings across multiple forums, or to search "individuals name" + sword in Google Unfortunately that would probably just invite fakes..... I mean, otherwise what's the alternative? Wait for it to pop up? If you know what new vs old etching looks like and how to discern fakes you should be fairly safe.
|
|
|
Post by Lord Newport on Jan 15, 2020 16:38:34 GMT
Unfortunately that would probably just invite fakes..... I mean, otherwise what's the alternative? Wait for it to pop up? If you know what new vs old etching looks like and how to discern fakes you should be fairly safe. You're going to be looking for a needle in a haystack, pardon the pun. If you really want help from members of this forum you probably should give us a lot more information as the type of sword the person who carried it when and where would all probably be helpful in pointing you in a good direction if that's possible
|
|
|
Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 15, 2020 16:47:29 GMT
I mean, otherwise what's the alternative? Wait for it to pop up? If you know what new vs old etching looks like and how to discern fakes you should be fairly safe. You're going to be looking for a needle in a haystack, pardon the pun. If you really want help from members of this forum you probably should give us a lot more information as the type of sword the person who carried it when and where would all probably be helpful in pointing you in a good direction if that's possible Well, the person I am looking for would have owned the sword from 10 years to just at the cross over from BC/AD, and it is described briefly in some text, however there is not any info on type, origin etc. Would have been in a Roman occupied territory, I think Jerusalem. Would be a cut and thrust sword I think, and quite light as it is described as being used to cut off someone's ear from likely an unassuming position.
|
|
|
Post by Lord Newport on Jan 15, 2020 17:54:46 GMT
You're going to be looking for a needle in a haystack, pardon the pun. If you really want help from members of this forum you probably should give us a lot more information as the type of sword the person who carried it when and where would all probably be helpful in pointing you in a good direction if that's possible Well, the person I am looking for would have owned the sword from 10 years to just at the cross over from BC/AD, and it is described briefly in some text, however there is not any info on type, origin etc. Would have been in a Roman occupied territory, I think Jerusalem. Would be a cut and thrust sword I think, and quite light as it is described as being used to cut off someone's ear from likely an unassuming position. LMAO.....Sorry my last comment should have been directed at the OP...
|
|
|
Post by Lord Newport on Jan 15, 2020 17:56:29 GMT
I am curious about finding a British Infantry Officers sword (or any sword for that matter) attributed to a specific individual. Kind of like a reverse lookup on a sword from an owners name. Are their resources/databases to do that sort of thing? You're going to be looking for a needle in a haystack, pardon the pun. If you really want help from members of this forum you probably should give us a lot more information as the type of sword, the person who carried it, when and where.. military unit/theater of service, place of death, assuming the sword would still have been in his possession at death, would all probably be helpful in pointing you in a good direction if that's possible
|
|
Hank
Member
cultivating a vigourous spirit
Posts: 23
|
Post by Hank on Jan 15, 2020 18:47:31 GMT
You're going to be looking for a needle in a haystack, pardon the pun. If you really want help from members of this forum you probably should give us a lot more information as the type of sword the person who carried it when and where would all probably be helpful in pointing you in a good direction if that's possible Well, the person I am looking for would have owned the sword from 10 years to just at the cross over from BC/AD, and it is described briefly in some text, however there is not any info on type, origin etc. Would have been in a Roman occupied territory, I think Jerusalem. Would be a cut and thrust sword I think, and quite light as it is described as being used to cut off someone's ear from likely an unassuming position. Hmmm...that sound's vaguely familiar (Peter and Malchus perhaps).
|
|
Hank
Member
cultivating a vigourous spirit
Posts: 23
|
Post by Hank on Jan 15, 2020 18:57:23 GMT
I am curious about finding a British Infantry Officers sword (or any sword for that matter) attributed to a specific individual. Kind of like a reverse lookup on a sword from an owners name. Are their resources/databases to do that sort of thing? You're going to be looking for a needle in a haystack, pardon the pun. If you really want help from members of this forum you probably should give us a lot more information as the type of sword, the person who carried it, when and where.. military unit/theater of service, place of death, assuming the sword would still have been in his possession at death, would all probably be helpful in pointing you in a good direction if that's possible Let's try, as another example, how one would find a sword attributed to a member of the 27th (Inniskilling) Regiment of Foot?
|
|
|
Post by Lord Newport on Jan 15, 2020 19:01:38 GMT
You're going to be looking for a needle in a haystack, pardon the pun. If you really want help from members of this forum you probably should give us a lot more information as the type of sword, the person who carried it, when and where.. military unit/theater of service, place of death, assuming the sword would still have been in his possession at death, would all probably be helpful in pointing you in a good direction if that's possible Let's try, as another example, how one would find a sword attributed to a member of the 27th (Inniskilling) Regiment of Foot? When?
|
|
Hank
Member
cultivating a vigourous spirit
Posts: 23
|
Post by Hank on Jan 15, 2020 19:41:39 GMT
Let's try, as another example, how one would find a sword attributed to a member of the 27th (Inniskilling) Regiment of Foot? When? Anywhere from the start of the Napoleonic Wars (1803) to the end of the Indian Mutiny/Independence Action (1858).
|
|
|
Post by Lord Newport on Jan 15, 2020 21:43:12 GMT
Anywhere from the start of the Napoleonic Wars (1803) to the end of the Indian Mutiny/Independence Action (1858). LMAO..you are you serious? Good luck.
|
|
|
Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 15, 2020 22:16:35 GMT
Anywhere from the start of the Napoleonic Wars (1803) to the end of the Indian Mutiny/Independence Action (1858). LMAO..you are you serious? Good luck. Why did you even bother writing this?
|
|
|
Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 15, 2020 22:17:20 GMT
Anywhere from the start of the Napoleonic Wars (1803) to the end of the Indian Mutiny/Independence Action (1858). That's a pretty big time span, do you know when the officer served and when, or what capacity he served in when?
|
|
|
Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 15, 2020 22:18:07 GMT
Yes, you are correct in Peter/Malchus.
|
|
Hank
Member
cultivating a vigourous spirit
Posts: 23
|
Post by Hank on Jan 15, 2020 23:14:55 GMT
Anywhere from the start of the Napoleonic Wars (1803) to the end of the Indian Mutiny/Independence Action (1858). That's a pretty big time span, do you know when the officer served and when, or what capacity he served in when? The Regimental Colonels for the 27th are listed here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27th_(Inniskilling)_Regiment_of_FootAny of the following are in that time period: 1804–1826: Gen. Sir Francis Rawdon-Hastings, 1st Marquess of Hastings, KG, GCB, GCH 1826–1842: Gen. Hon. Sir Galbraith Lowry Cole, GCB 1842–1848: Lt-Gen. Sir John Maclean, KCB 1848–1853: Gen. Sir William Francis Patrick Napier, KCB 1853–1860: Lt-Gen. Edward Fleming, CB The general question is how to find a sword given a name? For association with the Battle of Waterloo, I would look at Gen. Sir Francis Rawdon-Hastings. For association with the Indian Mutiny, I would look at Lt-Gen Edward Fleming, CB. I am interested in the Regimental Officers and their associations with specific actions. Yes, there were many in the time period given but this is the time period of interest for a number of reasons: not the least of which are the regimental patterned swords of the era - which I prefer over later period; and the fact that I have an interest in that regiment specifically.
|
|