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Post by howler on Feb 7, 2020 2:11:35 GMT
Hilarious! Ouch to his shins however.
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Post by vecna808 on Feb 7, 2020 16:38:45 GMT
LOL
Did he have the ass cut out of that cosume ??
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Post by vecna808 on Feb 7, 2020 16:49:12 GMT
Ouch! Keep in mind that there's steel and there's steel. And HEMA has outgrown some of the earlier screwups. At this point, the steel used for full force tournaments is quite safe provided people have some level of common sense (ie, no half swording up under masks, no crazy leap-thrusts that snap blades). You can also get gear that features enhanced puncture proofing. With solid gear, hard point protection and one of the newer masks you're good to go. The gauntlets are still being improved, but as far as *safety*, the big plastic clamshells are great.
Some of us fence and train with true steel simulators (not feders, but stiff blades), but we do so at a reduced pace. The feders are what you use for full tilt, in gear. Sometimes folks who see us train assume we're just slow. But it's part of a system of slow play used to allow safe use of simulators esp. for windings.
Yes tell myself that ( well not that , lol, you know a lot more than me on the subject ) , I think will will be ok when invest in som decent protection. while I have you here, can you suggest, something cheap ( mask, gloves ) that is good to go in competition, ( links ) second hand is great since cash not my friend at the mo. Since it looks like will be picking a fight or 2 might need to look seroius with protection lol. TBH, I am good with standard fencing mask, motocross hard gloves, and motorcycle jacket. When using wood. But dont look great lol.
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Post by MOK on Feb 7, 2020 17:39:54 GMT
For the love of Vanir, man, do NOT forget the cup!
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Post by Cosmoline on Feb 7, 2020 17:41:06 GMT
I'd recommend this kit or something like it: PBT "Warrior" mask (more expensive but much better than the older models); a gorget that offers HARD POINT neck protection (I learned this taking a spear simulator to the windpipe last year); Back of the head overlay or other protection; Quality layered linen gambeson or HEMA jacket with either plastic or steel jack chains, hard point shoulder protection and plastic slats added inside the material for forearm protection; SPES heavy gloves, Neyman three fingers, sized hourglass steel with added finger protection or one of the newer five fingers (if you want to risk getting bad ones); padded pants, good knee protection such as the purpleheart ultra flex and long heavy socks. Obviously a cup is mandatory, plus I like to add skirting or a long gambeson to help protect the hips. Of these, the gloves are the most troublesome item and the most expensive. The balance between protection and dexterity is very difficult to address without fingers getting busted. I hate having to work with the SPES heavies, but I admit they are the safest short of sized steel gauntlets. For one-handed swords you can get away with somewhat less protection. For rapier even less. If you use the big mitten SPES, your work with one-handed swords will be restricted to a hammer grip. With a longsword you can kinda shift to thumb grip with the right. I prefer the three finger Neyman "thok" gloves for one handed swords, since they have more flex. But it's *ALWAYS* a trade off. More flex means more risk.
The risk of lesser gear--as MANY have discovered in HEMA--is that it gives a false sense of security. Motocross stuff will work OK with synthetics until it doesn't. And with steel it's only a matter of time before you get a bone hit just "right" and it breaks. Of course if you slow down you can use less gear. Or even no gear beyond the helmet. But full tilt and full impact means full kit.
Wooden wasters were widely used twenty years ago, but they ended up causing a lot of broken bones even through padding. A wooden waster *IS* a weapon. Whereas a feder really isn't. Unless you invert it or throw the pommel ;-) Our main local WMA/HEMA group used wood in the early 2000's, until the "night of the thumbs" when two students and the instructor all broke thumbs.
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Post by Dalaran1991 on Sept 3, 2021 23:54:32 GMT
I posted this vid on another thread, but here goes: I'm the one with the Hakama and I have background in Kenjutsu and Aikiken, but not Kendo. The one in blue using the katana is a winner of several European longsword championship. No thrust and no leg hit allowed. Despite having never used a katana before you can see that my friend there used it to deadly effect. While I'm fairly competent with both katana and longsword I'm nowhere near his level. Still the longsword gave an extreme range advantage. This however was compensated by my opponent's footwork and lightning fast riposte. In the original vid the longswordman won hands down with that deadly thurst at the very beginning of the vid... He stopped doing it for sportmanship purpose but if he utilized the full range of the longsword the kenshin would have a very hard time. I know a lot of kendoka and while we respect their reflexes and body mechanics use, kendo is a sport. It should not be compared to HEMA. A better comparison is Kenjutsu vs HEMA
Excellent clip.
Would like more details on the HEMA guy , he is not bad at all.
The style I developed over the years is almost identical to his, I was shocked lol
Would love to see you both at full tilt :)
You have a second gear, he also has a second, gear, and a third he rarely displays.
I can not tell how fast he is at full pelt, which means he hides his full prowess very well, hmmm interesting!
Am off to training, will be working that bit harder, thank you !
Hey man, that's Federico Dallolio, several times Europe longsword gold medal winner. If you want, check out some of my other vids: EDIT: sorry for necro the thread, but wasn't very active on this forum for a while...
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