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Post by arayus on Jan 5, 2020 23:21:37 GMT
I couldn't find other Wilkinson swords like it in details. There are no #'s, the retailer/outfitter Wilson late Bodley & Etty London is engraved on the blade. The hinged guard works well and a part of the hilt is wrapped which I haven't seen on others. The scabbard separates at the taped sections and only holds together when the sword is sheathed, blade measures ~32 1/2". Please comment, any help with the history and value of this sword. This is my 1st post, thank you!
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Post by Lord Newport on Jan 6, 2020 0:42:00 GMT
Here is the 2nd sword I have and had to admit that I was impressed enough to buy without knowing much about it. I couldn't find other Wilkinson swords like it in details. There are no #'s, the retailer/outfitter Wilson late Bodley & Etty London is engraved on the blade. The hinged guard works well and a part of the hilt is wrapped which I haven't seen on others. The scabbard separates at the taped sections and only holds together when the sword is sheathed, sheathed measures ~37". In online searches I found scattered details, some bits about Wilkinson Sword pre serial# 1845-1854, line officers sword, 1828 Wilson late B&E L epaullette, and copies? Please comment, any help with the history and value of this sword. This is my 1st post, thank you!
Last owner wrap3d the hilt/guard with part of a sword knot.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 6, 2020 0:54:28 GMT
How wide is the blade, how much does it weigh? The absence of a proof slug to me suggests it may be a picquet weight, or dress weight sword not intended for function, other than being worn for formal or dress functions, much like a modern day officers sword.
Once I get my own Wilkinson back I can compare the proof slug initials. Hard to read them upside down and angled. The value would depend on buyer. Some pay more for the dress swords. I suggest carefully removing the tape on the scabbard parts and using leather preservatives.
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Post by arayus on Jan 7, 2020 4:42:42 GMT
The blade width where it meets the hilt is 25 cm, just slight of an inch. The length is ~32.5". The weight of the sword is 1 lbs. 9.2 oz. I learned from two online sites that Bodley&Etty was acquired by Wilson in 1857, so the sword date is not earlier, and that the Wilkinson swords were given a proof plug from the time that they were first manufactured around 1845. Here is another photo of the trademark, a W in a circle at the center of two interlocking triangles inside a circle. Could this be a period copy that was trademarked to suggest Wilkinson quality? I would hope that it is a Wilkinson dress sword that hasn't got the plug for the reason that it wasn't proofed for actual use. Added some photos, thank you for the comments. I will definitely be selling the sword when I can, I am invested in it along with some black powder. I'll leave the wrap on the hilt as it is, looks very old, and the tape on the scabbard to avoid regret. Thank you.
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Post by arayus on Jan 7, 2020 5:10:11 GMT
On second thought, maybe I should remove the extra wrap on the hilt to check for the condition underneath. Does that seem like a good idea? I can't take the tape off the scabbard because the repair is beyond me and the sections will have nothing holding them together.
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Post by arayus on Jan 12, 2020 16:06:37 GMT
Anyone interested?- there is information on this sword at SFI posted under Bodley & Etty. A member at Blade Forum generously transferred this post to that site. According to the experts there, this could be a Wilkinson of Cockspur St. London sword, a maker who ceased production after a legal battle during the 1850's with the original Wilkinson. Anyone with input as to the history and value of 'the other Wilkinson' swords posts, comments are greatly appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 16:49:14 GMT
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Post by MOK on Jan 13, 2020 3:09:45 GMT
The "wrap" looks like the remains of a sword knot (i.e. fancy lanyard) with the end missing.
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Post by arayus on Jan 14, 2020 22:22:55 GMT
I haven't removed the 'wrap', the material seems to be the same 'fish skin' material used overall on the hilt. I haven't done any polish, just a dusting with a soft bristle and a soft rag and light oil on the steel. At some point, I expect I will be selling the sword and I suppose I have to accept that the maker may be too elusive to definitively identify. The comments are very helpful, thank you.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 15, 2020 1:51:13 GMT
I haven't removed the 'wrap', the material seems to be the same 'fish skin' material used overall on the hilt. I haven't done any polish, just a dusting with a soft bristle and a soft rag and light oil on the steel. At some point, I expect I will be selling the sword and I suppose I have to accept that the maker may be too elusive to definitively identify. The comments are very helpful, thank you. Edelweiss has it right. It's a Wilkinson by the maker who Henry Wilkinson is purported to have shut down due to the same name being used. Let me know of you want to sell it.
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Post by arayus on Jan 15, 2020 5:37:52 GMT
hello, I am interested in offers for the sword. I package to a fair high standard.
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