Because it has a blade much more like a typical modern machete blade (thin, with little distal taper) than a typical single-edged sword blade (which, depending on the sword, would be either uniformly thicker, or have a much thicker base and lots of distal taper).
"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
If you liberally use the term machete, you open up the door to Golok, Parang, Bolo, Barong, Enep, Kukri, and others I can't recall at the moment. Utility, farming, bush craft, kitchen tools that were secondary (and sometimes primarily) used as weapons. If you look at Filipino weapons on Kult Of Athena you will see amazing stuff. I think cutlass comes from Caribbean term for machete tool used as a weapon that nations put on a guard (among other things enhancing handling capability) and called a short sword.
Actually, old machetes had proper distal taper and some are quite nice! Nothing like the modern idea of a machete which is a cheapo sheet of steel with an edge grind.
Just measured the distal taper on 4 of my machetes:
14” blade .097”-.035” (2.5mm-.9mm)
17¾” blade .083”-.040” (2.1mm-1.0mm) Newest machete <month old
18” blade .0.079”-.064” ((2.0mm-1.6mm)
25¾” blade .085”-.055” (2.2mm-1.4mm)
These as all of my machetes have stiff blades. The 25" machete has the most flex, to the point it's not the easiest to dig with but far from whippy.
Just measured two CS. One of the old Chinese mfg and I started say newer Jungle Machete but I see that one has been discontinued. Too bad I like it and it’s pushing 8-10 years now. Neither have a distal taper being .116” (2.9mm) thick and .112” (2.8mm) thick. Both work fine, CS makes good machetes but as well as the perform the former 4 feel livelier and the new one is fast becoming a favourite. Even to the point I considered going back for a tooled leather sheath, which for me would be a waste.
Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 12, 2019 10:17:47 GMT
These names (sabre, cutlass, machete, and also others like hanger and even sword) don't have strict definitions. They overlap.
Take "sabre" for example. Some insist they must be straight, and other say that straight sabres are OK (and what about forward-curved and recurved?). Some insist they are single-edged (a partial back edge is OK), and others are happy with double-edged sabres. Some impose a minimum length.
Using KoA’s figures you have some distal taper, 2.9mm-2.6mm. You have a bad hang up with machetes. It is true some machetes are cheap in the strictest since of the word. Others are just inexpensive. However to say that machetes are only used by those that can’t afford better is a big fallacy. There are jobs best done with thin bladed, light machetes. Harvesting my bananas then falling the trees is one. I have no sword nor know of any that would do the job better than the machetes I used. Ditto for grass cutting to name only two. If machetes are cheap, why the $127 price tag on the Condor? The last machete I bought was just over 4 USD. It was inexpensive, not cheap. I didn’t buy it because of the price but I wanted it and it is proving to be a good one, a favourite if you will.
To continue with Timo’s line, from the Phillippines:
And a carry method when no belt loop is provided. I prefer this in many ways to a belt loop or frog as there is nothing slapping and banging my side nor swinging around possibly causing a trip hazard. It depends on the sword. I would generally carry it in a more vertical position, but a quicky for the photo.
i didn't start this thread to criticize machetes. i was criticizing windlass.
my problem with machetes is that they are ag tools. they can be used as weapons but that's secondary.
i just prefer things made specifically to kill.
in fact, i now don't even care for reproductions. my guns were made soley to kill. i want swords of the same nature.
Then antiques are what you want. I would offer up the Italian troopers sabre I have in the classifieds but that's not so much a rough and tumble sword as it is a sword designed around Italian sabre theory.
stormmaster: theres a piece out there i want but cannot afford, quite sad
Feb 23, 2020 19:34:30 GMT
christain: Nothing new coming for me either. But...spring is just around the corner, and that means 5 and 6 day work-weeks. Already have a few things on my list.
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Feb 21, 2020 0:12:42 GMT
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Feb 20, 2020 23:11:27 GMT
RufusScorpius: I made you a promise I would cut your grass in armor and I fully intend to keep it. I just can't promise a time. But it's gonna happen.
Feb 20, 2020 11:28:49 GMT
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