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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 0:46:18 GMT
I hate to chime in. I love all the guys participating in this thread. Hell, I feel proud to be American somedays even tho I am not one But I feel like pointing out, that many people in the developed world support those foot ball guys protest, even if USA doesn't. Not really the best topic to have on SBG. I feel like we can do better than that. 😎 While I may be personally more for the cops, my thinking was that athletes in professional sports express themselves on their own private time, just like you and I, the average Joe and Jane. Average folk keep their political & religious opinions to themselves while on the job so that the boss, customers, fellow workers don't have to deal with it, so I believe pro athletes should be held to the same standard. And I think this should go for other countries as well. Of course, what people do on their own time in their private lives is their own affair, freedom of expression wise, so long as they don't hurt others. But you are expressing such an opinion in a place that doesn't allow it. Come on man. I think you are a dope dude entirely. Don't allow the passion of opinion overthrow the conservation of rules haha. I know how hard it is though
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 0:49:26 GMT
Actually, I'm out on this one. Ignore anything I've said. I don't wanna argue or nothing, and this one won't go anywhere.
I have no ill wills towards anyone, and I hope no one does to me either. Live and let live
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Post by howler on Dec 11, 2019 0:53:05 GMT
While I may be personally more for the cops, my thinking was that athletes in professional sports express themselves on their own private time, just like you and I, the average Joe and Jane. Average folk keep their political & religious opinions to themselves while on the job so that the boss, customers, fellow workers don't have to deal with it, so I believe pro athletes should be held to the same standard. And I think this should go for other countries as well. Of course, what people do on their own time in their private lives is their own affair, freedom of expression wise, so long as they don't hurt others. But you are expressing such an opinion in a place that doesn't allow it. Come on man. I think you are a dope dude entirely. Don't allow the passion of opinion overthrow the conservation of rules haha. I know how hard it is though I don't believe they are disallowing anything I've been saying, but I'm sure they will let me know if I do and I'll change my evil ways. I'm really not that passionate on the issue as I see there are points to both sides...not black and white (humans are so irritatingly complex ). Now, if it were my job to talk to you, Trap...what a great job (it might be different because...YOU would be my boss...NOW I'M SUCKING UP TO THE BOSS).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 0:54:57 GMT
But you are expressing such an opinion in a place that doesn't allow it. Come on man. I think you are a dope dude entirely. Don't allow the passion of opinion overthrow the conservation of rules haha. I know how hard it is though I don't believe they are disallowing anything I've been saying, but I'm sure they will let me know if I do and I'll change my evil ways. I'm really not that passionate on the issue as I see there are points to both sides...not black and white (humans are so irritatingly complex ). Now, if it were my job to talk to you, Trap...what a great job (it might be different because...YOU would be my boss...NOW I'M SUCKING UP TO THE BOSS). Dude. You are really cool to me all the time. I appreciate that. It's why I didn't wanna go any further. I aporeciate ya guys enough to respect your opinion. Even if I might not agree, on everything, you guys are cool enough dudes that I value your friendships over my own opinion, that like you, I don't prioritize in my life enough anyway The values of civilization are outweighed by any other of my many values. Such as having people I can appreciate
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Post by howler on Dec 11, 2019 0:55:32 GMT
Actually, I'm out on this one. Ignore anything I've said. I don't wanna argue or nothing, and this one won't go anywhere. I have no ill wills towards anyone, and I hope no one does to me either. Live and let live You are fine my man, and I get what you're saying.
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Post by MOK on Dec 11, 2019 0:57:59 GMT
I think athletes should do their job and talk politics in their PRIVATE lives, not on the court or field. Um. All I can really say without getting overtly political is that I'm deeply uncomfortable with that statement on several levels. And that's one reason why we want to avoid political discussions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 1:01:52 GMT
I think athletes should do their job and talk politics in their PRIVATE lives, not on the court or field. Um. All I can really say without getting overtly political is that I'm deeply uncomfortable with that statement on several levels. And that's one reason why we want to avoid political discussions. Thanks for chiming in. I don't enjoy calling out posts but sometimes it needs to be done to prevent future issues from manifesting
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Post by howler on Dec 11, 2019 1:02:11 GMT
I don't believe they are disallowing anything I've been saying, but I'm sure they will let me know if I do and I'll change my evil ways. I'm really not that passionate on the issue as I see there are points to both sides...not black and white (humans are so irritatingly complex ). Now, if it were my job to talk to you, Trap...what a great job (it might be different because...YOU would be my boss...NOW I'M SUCKING UP TO THE BOSS). Dude. You are really cool to me all the time. I appreciate that. It's why I didn't wanna go any further. I aporeciate ya guys enough to respect your opinion. Even if I might not agree, on everything, you guys are cool enough dudes that I value your friendships over my own opinion, that like you, I don't prioritize in my life enough anyway The values of civilization are outweighed by any other of my many values. Such as having people I can appreciate Yup. People treat complex issues like a sport where completely right or absolutely wrong, and it is either 0 or 100 percent, black or white, good or evil. Should a man hate his fellow brother on an issue where one may be 51% one way while the other leans 51% the other? Quit a loss on a 2% difference of opinion. And that is my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 1:04:19 GMT
Dude. You are really cool to me all the time. I appreciate that. It's why I didn't wanna go any further. I aporeciate ya guys enough to respect your opinion. Even if I might not agree, on everything, you guys are cool enough dudes that I value your friendships over my own opinion, that like you, I don't prioritize in my life enough anyway The values of civilization are outweighed by any other of my many values. Such as having people I can appreciate Yup. People treat complex issues like a sport where completely right or absolutely wrong, and it is either 0 or 100 percent, black or white, good or evil. Should a man hate his fellow brother on an issue where one may be 51% one way while the other leans 51% the other? Quit a loss on a 2% difference of opinion. And that is my opinion. I agree with ya there. People of today aren't very good at realizing that another person might not agree but can still be good to have in your inner circle
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Post by howler on Dec 11, 2019 1:10:51 GMT
I think athletes should do their job and talk politics in their PRIVATE lives, not on the court or field. Um. All I can really say without getting overtly political is that I'm deeply uncomfortable with that statement on several levels. And that's one reason why we want to avoid political discussions. I'm not even sure that my statement was really even political (not taking sides), except that maybe instead of the word "politics" I should have said "issues". Honestly blown away that someone would feel uncomfortable, and certainly not wanting to do that, as my statement was more discussion (Q&A) on levels of appropriate discussion of sensitive issues in workplace. If I did wrong this is my last post on subject as not wanting to offend. I can absolutely understand what (I think) your saying, like the potential for a country to start turning into a police state like Nazi Germany with dictatorship and the populace rising up in all spheres to protest (kind of like Hong Kong)...and in that regard we are in agreement, that it would indeed be your obligation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 1:13:28 GMT
Um. All I can really say without getting overtly political is that I'm deeply uncomfortable with that statement on several levels. And that's one reason why we want to avoid political discussions. I'm not even sure that my statement was really even political (not taking sides), except that maybe instead of the word "politics" I should have said "issues". Honestly blown away that someone would feel uncomfortable, and certainly not wanting to do that, as my statement was more discussion (Q&A) on levels of appropriate discussion of sensitive issues in workplace. If I did wrong this is my last post on subject. The fact that I do not know or remember your opinions or reactions based on similar circumstances that the other side of the political spectrum displayed, I cannot reasonably say more than you aren't wrong. And in an ideal world, that's how opinions should always be judged. I prefer a cold logic, that only judges statements based on what's included in them
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Post by howler on Dec 11, 2019 1:16:54 GMT
I'm not even sure that my statement was really even political (not taking sides), except that maybe instead of the word "politics" I should have said "issues". Honestly blown away that someone would feel uncomfortable, and certainly not wanting to do that, as my statement was more discussion (Q&A) on levels of appropriate discussion of sensitive issues in workplace. If I did wrong this is my last post on subject. The fact that I do not know or remember your opinions or reactions based on similar circumstances that the other side of the political spectrum displayed, I cannot reasonably say more than you aren't wrong. And in an ideal world, that's how opinions should always be judged. I prefer a cold logic, that only judges statements based on what's included in them All I remember now is that Trap's my boss. Seriously, ya take the whole of a man. People label too easily on people who are INFINELTY complex and special.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 1:25:17 GMT
The fact that I do not know or remember your opinions or reactions based on similar circumstances that the other side of the political spectrum displayed, I cannot reasonably say more than you aren't wrong. And in an ideal world, that's how opinions should always be judged. I prefer a cold logic, that only judges statements based on what's included in them All I remember now is that Trap's my boss. Seriously, ya take the whole of a man. People label too easily on people who are INFINELTY complex and special. Dude I would be down there waving an American flag of you and Christain, and all my American homies were there with beers. And I ain't no boss 😎 we allies
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Post by pgandy on Dec 11, 2019 1:31:17 GMT
I feel for the sergeant and his aching arm. I don'y know how long the parade was but I suspect it was long. But he didn't get that rocker for being a snow flake.
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Post by howler on Dec 11, 2019 1:36:16 GMT
I feel for the sergeant and his aching arm. I don'y know how long the parade was but I suspect it was long. But he didn't get that rocker for being a snow flake. It looked like he was struggling to keep proper form. Much respect.
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Post by howler on Dec 11, 2019 1:38:19 GMT
All I remember now is that Trap's my boss. Seriously, ya take the whole of a man. People label too easily on people who are INFINELTY complex and special. Dude I would be down there waving an American flag of you and Christain, and all my American homies were there with beers. And I ain't no boss 😎 we allies We be CO-bosses. Now...all we need is to start up a blade company. Howler & Trap...or is that Trap/Howler?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 1:40:59 GMT
Dude I would be down there waving an American flag of you and Christain, and all my American homies were there with beers. And I ain't no boss 😎 we allies We be CO-bosses. Now...all we need is to start up a blade company. Howler & Trap...or is that Trap/Howler? Howler and trap has a kind of badass premonition to it
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Dec 11, 2019 1:50:22 GMT
You know I wish I hadn't thrown in the comment about the sports figures taking a knee. It did distract from the whole purpose of the post which was patriotism and the fact that this Marine every year on Memorial Day stands and salutes the Rolling Thunder parade to the Vietnam wall.. He showing his appreciation to those who are honoring the fallen veterans. It's something I strongly believe in.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 1:54:14 GMT
You know I wish I hadn't thrown in the comment about the sports figures taking a knee. It did distract from the whole purpose of the post which was patriotism and the fact that this Marine every year on Memorial Day stands and salutes the Rolling Thunder parade to the Vietnam wall.. He showing his appreciation to those who are honoring the fallen veterans. It's something I strongly believe in. Me too dude, my grandpa was a veteran. And so is a cousin of mine in Louisiana. A marine to be specific. I appreciate them too
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Post by MOK on Dec 11, 2019 1:55:38 GMT
Um. All I can really say without getting overtly political is that I'm deeply uncomfortable with that statement on several levels. And that's one reason why we want to avoid political discussions. I'm not even sure that my statement was really even political (not taking sides), except that maybe instead of the word "politics" I should have said "issues". Honestly blown away that someone would feel uncomfortable, and certainly not wanting to do that, as my statement was more discussion (Q&A) on levels of appropriate discussion of sensitive issues in workplace. If I did wrong this is my last post on subject as not wanting to offend. Well, it's calling for censoring the political views of a specific, if seemingly arbitrary, group of people.
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