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Post by Jash on Feb 24, 2021 19:16:31 GMT
Old Prototype : New Finalized Prototype : As per Indy yesterday : "I had to confirm a couple of points about the hooks for the plaque, so that is being finalized now, then everything should start shipping immediately. Keep your eyes on your inbox for those shipping notifications!!!"
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Post by Lionhardt on Mar 12, 2021 2:33:18 GMT
Just checked the site. Are they ready?! The "pre-order" blurb is gone! Is it time?! And just looking at the picture you posted of the pommel. A nice peened tang! That is pretty cool. Interesting doing that on a zinc pommel though. I am surprised that even worked. Maybe he used something stronger than average Zinc? But either way, is it time?!
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Post by Lionhardt on Mar 12, 2021 2:43:47 GMT
welp...just bought it. Is it ready!?!?
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Post by Jash on Mar 12, 2021 3:52:50 GMT
Just checked the site. Are they ready?! The "pre-order" blurb is gone! Is it time?! And just looking at the picture you posted of the pommel. A nice peened tang! That is pretty cool. Interesting doing that on a zinc pommel though. I am surprised that even worked. Maybe he used something stronger than average Zinc? But either way, is it time?! Hahah love the enthusiasm! YES!!! After 7 years... she's ready. I received my shipping tracking # this morning! ETA mid/end next week. I'll be sure to post some pics and a mini-review. I plan on doing a bigger "Compare and Contrast" when i get UC's version as well. One collector on the LOTR FB page received his today already... unfortunately only posted a few pics and no initial impressions lol. Yup... i was also wondering about the peen on the alloy pommel. I'm not sure what mix of alloy or how thick the antique brass plating is... or how much of a difference it makes. Even without this in hand, i'm still classifying it as similar to the MC Glamdring or MC Sting - "semi functional" = better than UC standard line, but not "battle worthy".
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Post by stormmaster on Mar 12, 2021 3:57:04 GMT
i applaud your patience, hopefully its awesome
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Post by Jash on Mar 12, 2021 19:01:37 GMT
i applaud your patience, hopefully its awesome Thanks storm! I mean, it's a $400 package including custom plaque, wood/leather scabbard, and international shipping. So trying to keep my expectations accordingly lol. Still...
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Post by Lionhardt on Mar 13, 2021 21:04:33 GMT
Got my tracking number already!! Supposed to be Friday the 19th! It's gonna be beautiful.
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Post by Lionhardt on Mar 15, 2021 10:15:10 GMT
So just got an email from them. I inquired about the tempering in comparison to that used on the Sparrow sword. He stated that they are tempered the same as the Sparrow sword. So i will "likely see the same issue", they said.... As I commented before, I bought his sparrow sword and there was no tempering. The slightest bend and it stayed bent.... So, if he is using the same steel and same tempering, that does not bode well. But then again, someone wrote him recently in regards to the tempering of the Sparrow sword, and was told "they do better tempering now", than when I bought mine.... Still has me nervous. If it is at all close to the tempering of my sparrow, then you'll see one of these up for sale here shortly. But lastly, I thought I saw somewhere on one of these chats or one of the FB sites, someone list the actual steel used for these. But now I can't find it! If it is a 1060 or 1095 poorly tempered, I will be concerned. But if it is 5160 with a bad temper, I will not be as much. So, did we ever confirm?!
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Post by Jash on Mar 15, 2021 23:15:58 GMT
Oh man... I hope that's not the case. When I said that I see this Indy Guthwine as a "UC Museum Collection" version, I did not mean in EVERY aspect (such as bad tempering) lol. Since the first run of Sparrow swords Indy has had others made... I believe Guthwine is the 4th from this forge under Indy's direction. Hopefully the issue has been fixed over the years. So far from FB and RPF - the reviews seem to be mixed. The general consensus is that overall it's a great sword, but with minor issues with fit and finish / QC... which I expected at this price point. Mine's "Out for Delivery"!!! So i'll try to get my "First Impression" up either tonight or tomorrow morning (ps - it took 4 days to reach central Canada).
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Post by Jash on Mar 16, 2021 20:49:27 GMT
Just copying and pasting this from FB : My turn! Guthwine by Magnoli Props! I plan on doing a more detailed "mini review" later this week (including comparing it to one of the Weta made props), but I realize a lot of people are eager to know more about this sword - so figure I'd share a few "first impressions" (as mine only arrived last night) lol. Plaque - better than I expected. From the pictures I was worried the gold print would be too shiny and distract from the sword. It's more subdued in person. But, it stinks of varnish lol. Scabbard - this is probably where the sword shines (no pun intended). Being wood - it's much heavier and sturdier than the UC scabbards (compared it to my Anduril scabbard). Even though the metal components are an alloy - they're thick and sturdy. Biggest issue is the leather stitching isn't straight (which i've seen on other examples as well, but in different places). Smaller issue is the leather isn't glued into the grooves in the wooden scabbard, but "sit inside". So the grooves are still visible, but not as well defined. A few people have mentioned the scabbard doesn't hold the sword properly - I don't believe this an issue of Indy's version, but more because that's how it was designed - the sword doesn't go all the way inside. Sword Blade - it's what I expected. Straight, but with wavy edges and fullers from being hand ground. Since the majority of people buying this sword are LOTR collectors - this sword is technically "entry level" at this price point, and thus suffers from the same issues seen in such other entry level manufacturers as Deepeeka and Windlass. I did quickly check the temper by bending the blade in either direction. It is stiffer (having double fullers), but did come back to true on every occasion. Sword Handle - overall very well done! I need to get the prop out of the display - but from first glance it seems as though this version is somewhat lacking in detail. Not that it's missing anything... but more as though the sword has been used for ages and thus lost some detail. (Think of the prop sword handles from the Highlander hero katanas). Again, the alloy fittings are heavier and feel more sturdy than i expected. Biggest issue - my handle is slightly bent to one side (back to front). So not noticeable when on display or handling, but is when looking at it from the side. I've heard other collectors having different issues with alignment... again, entry level price point for a handmade sword. Overall - I'm very happy with this sword. It's slightly lighter than my UC Eowyn sword - Eowyn's is longer, but Guthwine is better balanced. You have to put it into perspective. This was $400 US for a specific replica, handmade sword, leather over wood scabbard with metal fittings, plaque, and international shipping including all duties and fees. UC's Guthwine is $210 and Anduril's scabbard is $180 = $390 US plus shipping and tax. So roughly the same price for those living in the US, but Indy's version will be cheaper for those of us that do not. Also take into account only 100 of these are made - the fewer made, the more expensive the end result I know this sword is getting bad rep for being made in Pakistan... but in all honesty, this is the best quality sword i've personally seen / handled from Pakistan. Goes to show that they can do better than the swords you see floating around eBay. Like I said, these are just quick first impressions. I'll try to get a more detailed opinion out later this week. Cheers
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Post by Lionhardt on Mar 17, 2021 0:33:16 GMT
Thanks for the prompt yet thorough review Jash! Man, how you described the blade, "Straight, but with wavy edges and fullers from being hand ground." That is EXACTLY how I like my swords to be. I forget if have seen any of my rants about what I care about in swords or not...but basically I have no interest in swords with perfect blades. I LOVE the waviness. Gives it character and makes it more realistic to me. So to hear that about this one makes me so happy. Exactly how a Gondorian blade SHOULD be!!! (is he from Gondor? I can never remember all the details....) Moral of the story, YES!! And the fact that you were satisfied with the spring of the blade! Fantastic! This of course was my biggest concern, after being disappointed with the Sparrow sword. So what a relief that is to hear! I can't wait! If only mine wasn't being sent to Tucson, AZ instead of New Hampshire for some reason.... I will see it eventually hopefully...
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Post by Jash on Mar 19, 2021 4:40:11 GMT
My pleasure. Trying to do a bit longer review including pictures... but just having a busy week... Haha no, I have not seen (or remember at least) your rants regarding sword aesthetics. I'm on a similar page though - preferring the "hand craftsmanship" over perfection. Eomer is of Rohan, so a "Rohirrim" I believe is the term (bit rusty myself)? I hope your blade turns out okay... the ones i've seen / heard about vary quite a bit in fit & finish and QC. Btw - before writing that, I went back to check the temper / flex just for you Hope you get yours soon! Looking forward to your thoughts on this sword!
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Post by warriorpoet on Mar 19, 2021 14:13:47 GMT
I'm following this thread, glad to see these make the light of day.
A sword day. A red day. Ere the sun rises!!
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Post by Jash on Mar 21, 2021 0:50:51 GMT
A sword day. A red day. Ere the sun rises!! Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor! Death!! *cough* I mean.... cool, cool.
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Post by Jash on Mar 23, 2021 2:01:05 GMT
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Post by Lionhardt on Mar 25, 2021 18:08:40 GMT
Oh man oh man oh man, the girlfriend says I just got some package that says "wood sheath, from your friend Indy"!!! I'm sure there is a sword in there too! ; )
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Post by joeydac on Mar 29, 2021 22:49:22 GMT
If the fittings where solid brass I would have my money in hand They should release a limited amount in solid brass fittings for a little bit higher price
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Post by Jash on Mar 31, 2021 1:59:09 GMT
@aequitas - joeydac - 100% agree. Maybe 3 options of quality levels? 1) Bronze fittings with 1095 steel. 2) Brass fittings with 1060 steel. 3) Plated alloy fittings with unknown steel....lol
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Post by joeydac on Apr 11, 2021 19:42:03 GMT
@aequitas - :o 2346 joeydac - 100% agree. Maybe 3 options of quality levels? 1) Bronze fittings with 1095 steel. 2) Brass fittings with 1060 steel. 3) Plated alloy fittings with unknown steel....lol now your talking ! I don’t know a lot of vendors don’t go with that approach It would generate way more buyers and revenue I would definitely be spending money
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Post by Jash on May 3, 2021 23:01:03 GMT
@aequitas - joeydac - 100% agree. Maybe 3 options of quality levels? 1) Bronze fittings with 1095 steel. 2) Brass fittings with 1060 steel. 3) Plated alloy fittings with unknown steel....lol now your talking ! I don’t know a lot of vendors don’t go with that approach It would generate way more buyers and revenue I would definitely be spending money I agree! I saw that with the eBay "build your own" katanas. Thought it was such a great idea - the base model is still functional, then the more you want, the more it'll cost you. A sword for every budget lol. It is too bad the European and Fantasy markets don't work that way. I know Windlass tried with their "Create your own sword" - but not sure what happened to that...
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