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Post by wstalcup on Nov 15, 2019 17:50:11 GMT
Hello fellow swordmasters! has anyone used gauntlets that don't inhibit your ability in wielding a sword properly? I've tried my leather gloves that i use for shooting firearms and they didn't work out so well. the gloves fit great, but still felt the sword slipping just a little. it seems to me that wearing any type of gloves/gauntlets would never "feel" as good vs bare hands.. of course, even if this is true, I guess it was worth the sacrifice of a little bit of wielding capability for the added protection. also just wondering about full chainmail gauntlets as well..anyone use these? they might offer great protection, but definitely seems incredibly difficult to fight with a sword!
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Post by paulmuaddib on Nov 15, 2019 19:01:07 GMT
I’m sure pgandy and Christian will chime in here. They both use them along with a few others. Be patient
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Nov 15, 2019 20:04:09 GMT
Thin, unlined leather gloves improve handling for me. But they don't offer protection other than from incidental scrapes.
Pgandy's hand rondels look practical
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Nov 15, 2019 22:22:42 GMT
Ugh...gloves that are usable and protect... The real question is how protected do you want to be? In my mind, its a trade off between protection and nimbleness, and cost. So you can have great protection cheap that will make you crazy... Or crud protection but great grip... Or decent but with a tradeoff of some dexterity.
And of course...what are you going to use it for? Practice groups have a wide spectrum of requirements.
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Post by wstalcup on Nov 15, 2019 22:36:35 GMT
Ugh...gloves that are usable and protect... The real question is how protected do you want to be? In my mind, its a trade off between protection and nimbleness, and cost. So you can have great protection cheap that will make you crazy... Or crud protection but great grip... Or decent but with a tradeoff of some dexterity. And of course...what are you going to use it for? Practice groups have a wide spectrum of requirements. ah, ok so you are confirming what i said was right? so there MUST be a tradeoff between protection and nimbleness with gauntlets.. wow, great to know i can be right once in a while wasn't looking into anything specifically, just learning..
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Nov 15, 2019 23:08:24 GMT
Good gloves work, and bad gloves work badly. If the grip of the sword is rough, gloves can improve comfort. the gloves fit great, but still felt the sword slipping just a little. A lot of swords can be held and swung with a quite relaxed grip. For these, slipping should not be an issue. Slipping might indicate that either the gloves are very slippery or the sword is ergonomically bad. also just wondering about full chainmail gauntlets as well..anyone use these? they might offer great protection, but definitely seems incredibly difficult to fight with a sword! Mail gloves/mittens for the sword hand often only have mail on the back, with a textile or leather palm. There are mail gloves with mail palms, but these are usually for the off-hand, for grabbing the opponent's blade in a duel: collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-21197.htmlThe best off-the-shelf gloves I've found for sword use are motorbike gloves.
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Post by christain on Nov 15, 2019 23:59:42 GMT
Yes. I wear Harley/D long cuffed gloves. They are super soft and very grippy-feeling on my sword hilts.
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Post by demonskull on Nov 16, 2019 0:38:21 GMT
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Post by christain on Nov 16, 2019 1:21:14 GMT
Somehow, seems to me that using a glove with mail *palms* would be hard on a leather grip.
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Post by demonskull on Nov 16, 2019 2:22:51 GMT
Not really, the links are tiny and welded- nothing to catch on the leather.
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Post by christain on Nov 16, 2019 2:46:18 GMT
Not really, the links are tiny and welded- nothing to catch on the leather. Maybe. I've thought about a coif, hauberk, and leggings in the welded stuff, but.....$$$$$$$ ----
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Post by demonskull on Nov 16, 2019 9:06:18 GMT
Not really, the links are tiny and welded- nothing to catch on the leather. Maybe. I've thought about a coif, hauberk, and leggings in the welded stuff, but.....$$$$$$$ ---- Good for a Renfair or if you a questing Hobbit but yeah very expensive otherwise.
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Post by wstalcup on Nov 16, 2019 17:46:30 GMT
Thin, unlined leather gloves improve handling for me. But they don't offer protection other than from incidental scrapes. Pgandy's hand rondels look practical what are rondels?
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Nov 16, 2019 18:25:16 GMT
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Post by christain on Nov 16, 2019 18:42:51 GMT
Thin, unlined leather gloves improve handling for me. But they don't offer protection other than from incidental scrapes. Pgandy's hand rondels look practical what are rondels? The rondels redmichael was referring to are Epic Armoury hand rondels...little shields for the back of your hand.
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Post by pgandy on Nov 16, 2019 22:19:17 GMT
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Post by wstalcup on Nov 17, 2019 20:22:04 GMT
Good gloves work, and bad gloves work badly. If the grip of the sword is rough, gloves can improve comfort. the gloves fit great, but still felt the sword slipping just a little. A lot of swords can be held and swung with a quite relaxed grip. For these, slipping should not be an issue. Slipping might indicate that either the gloves are very slippery or the sword is ergonomically bad. also just wondering about full chainmail gauntlets as well..anyone use these? they might offer great protection, but definitely seems incredibly difficult to fight with a sword! Mail gloves/mittens for the sword hand often only have mail on the back, with a textile or leather palm. There are mail gloves with mail palms, but these are usually for the off-hand, for grabbing the opponent's blade in a duel: collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-21197.htmlThe best off-the-shelf gloves I've found for sword use are motorbike gloves. thanks! great info you have, as always!
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Post by wstalcup on Nov 17, 2019 20:24:24 GMT
Yes. I wear Harley/D long cuffed gloves. They are super soft and very grippy-feeling on my sword hilts. even padded and soft on the palm and inside of fingers not just the outside? I could try that
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Post by wstalcup on Nov 17, 2019 20:28:13 GMT
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Post by wstalcup on Nov 17, 2019 20:40:28 GMT
As for gauntlets that do not hamper the sword handling, I found my mail gloves that I got from MRL during a DoD sale works well as they flexe at the wrist. The palms are soft pliable leather that allow a secure grip on the sword. Depending on the grip design if this was covered on mail also the grip may not be secure. The mail should guard against laceration to the hand and the plate the lower part of the forearm. They are not that heavy and do not add much to the hand/arm weight wise. The negative is while protecting against lacerations the mail does nothing for blunt trauma. Between amputation and fracture I’d rather go with the later. The Rondel is by Epic Armoury and sold through KoA. Dollar for dollar that was my best buy in plate and I value only my helmet more. It will protect against lacerations and blunt trauma both. For maximum protection use them together. thank you once again for going through the trouble of posing and posting pics! very informative! I've never seen Rondels before. very cool! simple and cheap but very effective it seems! do you have a link where you may have posted all of your swords, armor etc already?
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