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Post by A34 on Nov 11, 2019 2:20:26 GMT
Hi Folks, Newbie here. I'm hoping you can help me identify a sabre I picked up recently. It has a "B" in a square near the hilt. Other than that, I've been told it looks to be an import to the USA, and possibly, French manufactured due to the heavy spine it has. It is 42" overall including the handle. Attached are some pics. I'd appreciate any info on manufacturer and year produced. Thanks is advance! |
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Post by A34 on Nov 11, 2019 2:23:16 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on Nov 11, 2019 5:58:23 GMT
Looks like a French light cavalry sabre, model 1816.
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I really doubt it has any American history.
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Post by Uhlan on Nov 11, 2019 8:28:27 GMT
There are two stamps on the ricasso. The pictures are bad so you may have a look here to see what's what: www.smallwebs.com/Swords/FrenchInspection%20stamps.htmFurther more, a little searching on Google Images may tell you all you need. It is a French M1816 Light Cavalry sabre like Jordan said. |
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Post by A34 on Nov 12, 2019 1:55:01 GMT
There are two stamps on the ricasso. The pictures are bad so you may have a look here to see what's what: www.smallwebs.com/Swords/FrenchInspection%20stamps.htmFurther more, a little searching on Google Images may tell you all you need. It is a French M1816 Light Cavalry sabre like Jordan said. Thanks guys, I was able to take some better pics. I'm a novice here, are there other marks Is hould be looking for? Anything on the part of the blade hidden in the handle? Is it safe to take apart or will it destroy it? |
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Post by A34 on Nov 12, 2019 1:57:08 GMT
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Post by Uhlan on Nov 12, 2019 4:58:23 GMT
Taking it apart will destroy it. Also there's no need.
On the spine of the blade, near the guard, it should read ,, Manuf. Royale du Klingenthal'' with the model 1816 Cav. Legere and the date of manufacture. Sometimes this spine etch is polished away over time.
Either way it does not matter much. It is a French M1816 Light Cavalry troopers sabre.
Do a Google Images search with these keywords and you'll learn more. Delve into the Smallwebs inspection stamp lists. Part of the fun of collecting this stuff is the adventure of discovery.
Donate some $$ to Oldswords.com and have access to their data base to work with.
We gave you the basics. The rest is up to you.
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Post by pellius on Nov 12, 2019 13:20:24 GMT
A34 - congrats on a nice sword.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Nov 14, 2019 22:58:07 GMT
  Late for the party. M1816 it is. Officers on the top and right. This is the one and only experiment with a pipeback like design. Like so many pipibacks, the balance wasn't right. You can see the transitional design of the hilt, heading towards a bigger roomy hilt and a sleek 36 inch long Montmorency blade for the 1822LC. |
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Post by A34 on Nov 16, 2019 23:04:09 GMT
Guys, thanks for all the great info! Gonna be fun doing more research. Could you suggest where to find a scabbard for it? And what model scabbards will fit, if there are more than one?
What do you think this is worth without a scabbard and with one?
Thanks again!
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