What about in longswords? I know about the Zwerch. Is it used often? (Not the cut but the edge itself)
I don't do longsword anymore (I did for about 2 years when I was 15 - 17, but now do pretty much exclusively sabre and rapier and dagger), but when I did true edge was still king, zwerch - copter was great, and in winding and binding you had more opportunity to use the false edge in good effect. I will say the club's longsword technique has changed since I was doing it.
I suggest watching some sparring footage on youtube, maybe some tournament stuff to see a good mix of clubs and styles. I have seen some Blood and Iron folk say feints are bad and inherently poor fencing, so maybe stay away from them if you want to see technique.
Post by leviathansteak on Oct 16, 2019 7:36:09 GMT
You said 'use' which i assume to mean cuts on the opponent but of course there are other applications besides cutting the other guy.
I do mostly longsword and sidesword and employ rising false edge cuts with a lower percentage of horizontal and descending false edge cuts without grip changes.
The Liechtenauer longsword system has plenty of short edge cuts with a thumb grip which i often use
Id say i attempt strikes with the false edge probably 30-40% of the time compared to true edge. Little less so with sidesword, and Hit rate will be lower of course
I also practice test cutting with the false edge as i believe your cuts in sparring should reflect actual martial effectiveness. (Excepting purposeful flat hits and other less lethal attacks)
I also use the false edge to smack away swords either as a defense or as an initiation into an attack or to prompt my opponent to attack after my blow. But i guess you don't need a sharp edge to do it.
And don't forget knives. You can land a pretty good cut with the sharpened false edge of a bowie or other large knife by flipping your wrist over to hit someone's wrist or hand. I've done that on a few people and usually they don't expect it the first time.
Cuts with a clipped false edge can be really nasty, at that. The concave edge really digs in.
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I am more partial to what I call "the katana grip", which is kind of like a handshake grip. If it has another name I do not know what it is lol
I like it because you can transition to the "Fairbairn" knife grip by just twisting your forarm a little. (same grip, just held at a different angle)
And to answer the question, this grip is the same one you use when you helicopter the blade, thumb against the flat. Which is when the second edge is most used by myself, which is more of a stratigic move than one I would spam
Feels like a stronger grip then the saber grip, while more fluid than hammer
So...back edge...in SCA sword and shield, back edge is used LOTS. For instance, when shield to shield, you can throw a leg blow to the opponents left leg back edged with more power than lead edge. and if you wrap it behind for the other leg, you use back edge also.
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