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Post by MOK on Oct 14, 2019 5:25:30 GMT
I wasn’t talking about a true #4. I was talking about with knuckles down going diagonally upwards using the false edge as opposed to flipping the blade over and cutting with the true edge. I’ll admit #3&4s are more effective with the true edge of a curved blade. I fail to see the difference with a straight blade other than delivering more power with the true edge. True edge cuts also intercept lines of attack much more effectively (unless we're talking about the meisterhauen, and those are tricky verging on impossible with a baskethilt). I view back edge cuts mostly as a riposte or follow-through after successfully controlling the opponent's weapon in some way.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Oct 14, 2019 5:45:36 GMT
I've been taught a move called a "speed up" by my escrima teacher which is basically a false edge #3 and some footwork to displace a #1 cut. It works. So there's some use for false edge countercutting.
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Post by leviathansteak on Oct 14, 2019 8:02:33 GMT
Just to share, for bolognese sidesword, false edge cuts are mainly used as parries, or to initiate an exchange/provocation by targetting the opponent's weapon or hand
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Post by MOK on Oct 14, 2019 8:09:13 GMT
Oh, yeah, there are lots of false edge beats and parries in various systems! (I'm personally very fond of the one in several messer, dussack etc. systems that segues into a simultaneous disarm and #2 cut at the face. ) I was rather thinking of cuts aimed at the opponent, there; probably should have specified.
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Post by pgandy on Oct 14, 2019 12:35:43 GMT
Just to share, for bolognese sidesword, false edge cuts are mainly used as parries, or to initiate an exchange/provocation by targetting the opponent's weapon or hand That's what it is best suited for. But can be used in other situations. But be flexible and let one movement flow into the next.
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Post by leviathansteak on Oct 14, 2019 12:57:41 GMT
Just to share, for bolognese sidesword, false edge cuts are mainly used as parries, or to initiate an exchange/provocation by targetting the opponent's weapon or hand That's what it is best suited for. But can be used in other situations. But be flexible and let one movement flow into the next. For sure! The falso cuts almost always flow into another attack of some sort.
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Post by pgandy on Oct 14, 2019 14:33:02 GMT
There are times when the “ideal text book move” is best forgotten in favour of keeping the momentum going and the opponent off balance. To use Matt Easton’s words “in context”.
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