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Post by pvsampson on Aug 25, 2019 6:00:41 GMT
In the following vids,first form,the first master steps forward with his right foot when cutting @ around 1 min 2 seconds,yet in the second vid the master steps with the left foot (very early in vid). I think the term is kiriotoshe? What do I do,right foot or left??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 12:25:30 GMT
I recommend stepping left foot first into a dojo with a qualified instructor and hard working fellow students that you get along with.
If that's not possible or you just don't feel like doing it, then do whatever makes you personally happy and don't agonize over it.
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Post by pvsampson on Aug 26, 2019 20:03:14 GMT
I recommend stepping left foot first into a dojo with a qualified instructor and hard working fellow students that you get along with. If that's not possible or you just don't feel like doing it, then do whatever makes you personally happy and don't agonize over it. Unfortunately my location in rural area of Australia dictates that I have no access to a dojo. Thanks. I will figure which feels most comfortable.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Aug 27, 2019 1:00:33 GMT
2 different styles... the 1st vid shows Toei-Ryu-Iai-Batto-Renmei (right foot first in all standing techniques), the second is Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu Iaido, which has a slightly different take on the starting foot placement. Each "ryu" of Iaido has slight to major differences. As for which way to start, I was taught (Eishin Ryu/Nippon Kobudo Iaido) standing techniques are started with the right foot, but as time went on, was taught that it depends on how much space (ma-ai) there is between you and your opponent. Sometimes it's best to start with the right foot, sometimes it makes sense to start with the left foot depending on the spacing.
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Post by pvsampson on Aug 27, 2019 2:01:14 GMT
2 different styles... the 1st vid shows Toei-Ryu-Iai-Batto-Renmei (right foot first in all standing techniques), the second is Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu Iaido, which has a slightly different take on the starting foot placement. Each "ryu" of Iaido has slight to major differences. As for which way to start, I was taught (Eishin Ryu/Nippon Kobudo Iaido) standing techniques are started with the right foot, but as time went on, was taught that it depends on how much space (ma-ai) there is between you and your opponent. Sometimes it's best to start with the right foot, sometimes it makes sense to start with the left foot depending on the spacing. Ok that clarifies things a lot more for me,thanks.I have been finding it awkward with left forward as my Southern Mantis training has all forms start right forward and a lot of techniques are right dominant,so it seems natural to me now to step right.
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Post by Google on Sept 1, 2019 11:09:19 GMT
each decision will have no real influence here, these are subtle nuances that have no impact on the practicality of the form. the origin of the differences is being different systems\methods of practice. the most important thing to remember about this type of iai, is that there is no one absolute correct form. if you have no sensei, do as you like.
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Post by pvsampson on Sept 2, 2019 9:11:31 GMT
each decision will have no real influence here, these are subtle nuances that have no impact on the practicality of the form. the origin of the differences is being different systems\methods of practice. the most important thing to remember about this type of iai, is that there is no one absolute correct form. if you have no sensei, do as you like. Thanks for the advice,both of the comments.Will do what I need to do.
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Post by Google on Sept 5, 2019 4:43:37 GMT
each decision will have no real influence here, these are subtle nuances that have no impact on the practicality of the form. the origin of the differences is being different systems\methods of practice. the most important thing to remember about this type of iai, is that there is no one absolute correct form. if you have no sensei, do as you like. Thanks for the advice,both of the comments.Will do what I need to do. If you'd like some more personal help with iaido, I'd be glad to. Just pm me.
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Post by pvsampson on Sept 7, 2019 8:38:22 GMT
Thanks for the advice,both of the comments.Will do what I need to do. If you'd like some more personal help with iaido, I'd be glad to. Just pm me. Thankyou,I will definitely keep that offer in mind.
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 28, 2019 23:02:29 GMT
In the following vids,first form,the first master steps forward with his right foot when cutting @ around 1 min 2 seconds,yet in the second vid the master steps with the left foot (very early in vid). I think the term is kiriotoshe? What do I do,right foot or left?? I suggest you find a sensei to train under and all will be made apparent. Trying to learn JSA / Ken Jutsu from YouTube and SBG Forum will just get you embarrassed and possibly hurt.
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Post by pvsampson on Nov 29, 2019 3:52:22 GMT
In the following vids,first form,the first master steps forward with his right foot when cutting @ around 1 min 2 seconds,yet in the second vid the master steps with the left foot (very early in vid). I think the term is kiriotoshe? What do I do,right foot or left?? I suggest you find a sensei to train under and all will be made apparent. Trying to learn JSA / Ken Jutsu from YouTube and SBG Forum will just get you embarrassed and possibly hurt. Thanks for the advice,but post three in this thread is relevant.
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 29, 2019 5:50:13 GMT
I suggest you find a sensei to train under and all will be made apparent. Trying to learn JSA / Ken Jutsu from YouTube and SBG Forum will just get you embarrassed and possibly hurt. Thanks for the advice,but post three in this thread is relevant. I studied Mugai ryu and Toyama Ryu and am ranked in both. I know that there were students in the country (US) that were not near a dojo and made home dojos. Both Mugai Ryu and Toyama Ryu have a video series that teach their art. Combine that with annual attendance at seminars to study under sensei from japan and locally to correct and perfect your technique. Find ONE art and focus on that. Each one will do almost EVERYTHING differently...making looking at different sensei videos practicing different arts IMPOSSIBLE to learn from. Take a look at Toyama Ryu, it is primarily just sword skills and "relatively" easy to learn with just eight kata, all designed around cutting from a standing position. If you are interested, PM me and I will try to help you with introductions. Toyama-ryū (戸山流) established in 1925 by a committee of senior experts of several sword traditions for the curriculum of the Rikugun Toyama Gakko.
The special school for training army personnel founded in 1873, called Rikugun Toyama Gakkō or "Toyama Army Academy" in Toyama, Tokyo, Japan, led to the establishment of Toyama-ryu.[1] Today, separate lines of Toyama-ryū are primarily located in the Kantō, Tokai and Kansai region of Japan.
er the Meiji Restoration, officers in the Japanese army were required to carry Western-style sabres. During the 1920s Japan went through a phase of Militant Nationalism that lasted until defeat in the Second World War. By adopting the katana, the traditional sword of the samurai, the Japanese were allying themselves with the samurai military tradition. Adopting the katana also served to calm discontent among the more politicized sections of the army who had been outraged at mechanization (another lesson learned from World War I) which had de-emphasized the role of infantry and cavalry.[citation needed]
In 1925, since not all officers had sufficient background in kenjutsu to deploy these weapons in combat, a simplified form of sword technique was devised that emphasized the most essential points of drawing and cutting. The army iai-battō kata differ from those of many koryū sword schools in that all techniques are practised from a standing position. Also, this modern ryū has a strong emphasis on tameshigiri, or "test-cutting."[citation needed]
At the end of World War II, the Toyama Military Academy became the U.S. Army's Camp Zama. Nonetheless, the military iai system was revived after 1952. By the 1970s, three separate organizations represented Toyama-ryū Iaido: in Hokkaidō, the Greater Japan Toyama Ryu Iaido Federation (established by Yamaguchi Yuuki); in Kansai (Kyoto-Osaka area), the Toyama Ryu Iaido Association (established by Morinaga Kiyoshi former Head Instructor of the Toyama Academy); and the All-Japan Toyama Ryu Iaido Federation (established by Nakamura Taizaburo). Each of these organizations was autonomous and retained its own set of forms; the Hokkaido branch even included sword versus bayonet exercises. Today, there are many active instructors of Toyama-ryū outside Japan, in California, the Czech republic (Czech Toyama Ryu Federation - Gunto no Soho & All three main line Moringa-ha, Nakamura-ha and Yamaguchi-ha), Poland, Australia, England and Italy.[citation needed]
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