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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 13:56:16 GMT
As to being cynical about collecting; it might be not having enough time to expand, concentrate and enjoy "stuff".
Hoarding is an interesting term as well that can have more than one definition. I do collect "duplicates" or more than a share some might explore. I have posted several threads and posts where I pose the question "when are too many not enough?" I've gone down several deep rabbit holes in collecting and I might rightly boast that I have affected change in a market, or simply struck while the iron was hot and scooped up bargains. From musical wind-up alarm clocks to 1950s wristwatches, I tend to run out of steam as the prices escalate. The same true of some knives. Some do run in cycles and I'm currently not buying some bargains. That could be considered my own cynicism about "hoarding" Korium and reproduction Will&Finck daggers. I'll never need more than one but might eventually sell some.
The watch hoard a case of I will likely never sell them individually and despite some fine pieces, I wear a franken watch I assembled from different Seiko models and that I wear 99.99% of the time. Another I wore for years, a five dollar 1950s Westclox "bump" auto that loses five minutes a day.
More sleepy than cynical about my collections. The term "safe queen" commonly used in the firearms and edged weapons/tools. I don't consider most as less than users but most are better regarded these days as wallhangers. Yes, I have spent thousands on wallhangers. Most much more than 100 years old.
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Post by nddave on Aug 13, 2019 16:24:13 GMT
I'm pretty sure it's a German accent, actually... Nevertheless: if something on youtube is gettin on your nerves, just stop watching or stop whining, dude. That is exactly what I did. I've had enough of Skall. He too often misuses a product and then complains that it doesn't hold up or do what he want even if it isn't intended for such and then put the bad mouth on it. He does have some accurate information and good points, however I've had enough. He did that with the Leif Erickson sword by Windlass. I guess they shipped him one to review and because of the guard goof he didn't review it and sent it back. The least he could've done was show everyone the sword, give it a first impression piece negative or not and not waste everyone's time including Windlass with a snobby remark and no delivery.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 16:31:47 GMT
Dave, I strongly agree.
An adult should honor his commitments. Period. If you agree to review a product and it is shipped to you free of any cost, you should follow through. It is the very height of rudeness to send it back. Perhaps there is a story there we don't know about, but that kind of snobbery will burn bridges, not build them. Paradoxically, if he wants Windlass, or any other manufacturer to improve in quality, he should encourage them to so so in the form of a formal review. Sending it back in such a manner does nothing except irritate people and make you look like a jerk.
However... That issue with the guard irritates the hell out of me! Just stop it already! Do your freaking research. Immediately halt production and make that change. He was right to be critical of that, but it should have been in the form of a review.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Aug 13, 2019 18:10:57 GMT
I think Edelweiss explained it well with discussions being superficial. That is one of my main reasons why I haven't been really active in many online discussions lately. I think it is this modern culture that people want instant gratification and do not care too much about deeper knowledge.
That of course applies to your field of interest. For me it is old Japanese swords, I spend most of my time researching swords on them so I might dare to say plenty of online discussions about them just feel dull. So most of my interest in online discussions is pointed to few specific groups. My own antique collecting has hit a slightly problematic spot where usually the swords I like often cost more than my annual income... I've been focusing on sword books as they are possible purchases for me and I do have quite nice book collection.
I think one thing you can do at that point is finding a secondary interest that you do just for fun. For me it is few European sword replicas in my collection. I'll try to own few affordable Euro replicas just for fun. At one point I had few Indo-Persian antiques but I sold them. Just having something affordable for your bankroll will be fun to have along your main interest.
I am seeing that Skallagrim gets now quite a lot of flak in here. I do remember he might have been a member in old old SBG? Back then I had a snobbish phase and thought this place does not fit my interests, as I remember the beginnings of SBG. Even though I haven't really been too active lately the affordable Euro sword discussions keep me looking in here, the fun part.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 18:52:22 GMT
Windlass contact is but a phone call or email away. SBG raffles are a no go from the get go. Prizes are a different thing. Instead of sending it to some psuedo e-celebrity youtube Corn ball?You too (anyone) can be the next psuedo e-celebrity youtube Corn ball Skall and Matt are actually doing this for money.
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Post by MOK on Aug 13, 2019 19:12:16 GMT
Well... Why doesn't windlass send one of their swords to us, possibly in a raffle with the agreement that a review would be made? We just don't have the size of audience that would make that kind of thing worthwhile for the company.
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Post by MOK on Aug 13, 2019 19:13:22 GMT
Skall and Matt are actually doing this for money. Hipster much, old man? Did you like them before they sold out?
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Post by bebut on Aug 13, 2019 19:21:39 GMT
I watch skall but I see the occasional flaws. I think part is to keep a channel running with new stuff is a big order, both in terms of money and the time to properly research things. I see the same thing with camera/lens channels. Scholagladiatoria is quite good but he went out on the ledge promoting a line of knives that get consistently bad reviews on Amazon.
Oh, well, if get bored I can always watch Donnie B All Day bang on things with big Bowies. Lurking in a 20-30 minute tape you never know when you will find a good 5 minute review!
Some others that have some good tapes are Metatron, Shadiversity, Virtuovice, and Lindybeige,
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Post by Jordan Williams on Aug 13, 2019 19:27:02 GMT
That is exactly what I did. I've had enough of Skall. He too often misuses a product and then complains that it doesn't hold up or do what he want even if it isn't intended for such and then put the bad mouth on it. He does have some accurate information and good points, however I've had enough. He did that with the Leif Erickson sword by Windlass. I guess they shipped him one to review and because of the guard goof he didn't review it and sent it back. The least he could've done was show everyone the sword, give it a first impression piece negative or not and not waste everyone's time including Windlass with a snobby remark and no delivery. Hwait - hwa?!
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Post by MatthewGMK on Aug 13, 2019 19:43:58 GMT
I don't post too often, but kept seeing this a top the main page and decided to look in ...
Maybe its not cynicism. I'll recall a comment probably made by a better man than me, I'm surely paraphrasing :
Reality has a way of catching up with you.
I've owned a lot of swords. But my collection stands now at a eleven. And I don't think I'd miss any of them IF I sold each and got what I put into them. These days, every time I have a little extra $$$ and think I JUST might add something, I end up asking :
Do I need it ? Where am I gonna put it ? What's the point ? Nobody looks at 'em but me.
Realistically speaking the sword isn't the weapon of the future -- barring the ever popular zombie apocalypse ( and boy could I make a cynical comment here that would get me censored, suspended, or tossed out'a this forum, which -- I will say -- HAS happened to me on one occasion ).
Nope, Reality has a way of catching up with us all. Our wisdom and logic kicks in and ya' gotta give those things the time and space they deserve, cuz you'll come around and come around again and again ....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 19:44:21 GMT
Windlass contact is but a phone call or email away. SBG raffles are a no go from the get go. Prizes are a different thing. Instead of sending it to some psuedo e-celebrity youtube Corn ball?You too (anyone) can be the next psuedo e-celebrity youtube Corn ball Skall and Matt are actually doing this for money. Edelweiss with his usual edelweissing. We are on the same side, keep the poking to yourself, by yourself, in your own bedroom please. Hmmph, doesn't read as though you are on my side. Mebbe if you were to kiss me real sweet behind the ear It does seem easy to ruffle feathers during a full moon period and if so easily offended, such response to cynicism and truth only underlines my own previous posts in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 19:45:08 GMT
Any thread I start devolves into this. It's reached a rather hilarious junction. I am especially amused that edelweissing is a verb. Post that video about the Erikson sword, Dave. I actually want to hear Skall confess to doing that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 19:50:35 GMT
Boys, boys, boys...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 20:19:41 GMT
As a cynic, I might suggest Mike Reed's good list from a couple of decades ago. www.politicsforum.org/flame-warriors/(that list is actually in reverse order but the imagery is intact) Not that any of those categories are directed at anyone at SBG, nor would I suggest any behavior modification because I think we are all bozos on this bus.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 20:29:29 GMT
Quite. I have never seen this list, but it's spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 20:31:44 GMT
Skall and Matt are actually doing this for money. Hipster much, old man? Did you like them before they sold out? Matt is an acquaintance from long ago and I had debates with him long before this site. Matt has sought out not just my advice but also friendship (the latter surely for his own numbers). Compared to the larger and older inclusive sword community, the other dude is a relative newcomer. His experiences speak for themselves. I honestly do not follow either channel very much. I'll watch one when presented and linked as an argument/debate or evidence.
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Post by stormmaster on Aug 13, 2019 20:37:04 GMT
i honestly only watch both channels when they review stuff, otherwise the content is just kinda a bunch of rambling and i get bored easily but thats just me
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Post by nerdthenord on Aug 13, 2019 20:41:02 GMT
I've felt this way with hobbies before. I think the key is keeping it a hoby and not making it a job, duty, or religion. You gotta have hobbies, but you also gotta have a reason for existing that you are passionate about. For me swords are one of my hobbies to balance out my main passion, biological science. Swords help me stay sane while I chase my dream of a PhD and keep my passion from becoming a burden.
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Post by nerdthenord on Aug 13, 2019 20:43:06 GMT
Oh, one more point. When you set yourself a major goal and actually accomplish it, there is almost always a cynical sense of "what next" after. It's completely normal and is best fixed by choosing another obtainable main goal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 20:44:06 GMT
I think storm has the right approach. He doesn't own these things, he just runs a boarding house for wayward weapons, and helps place them with new owners. We should foster these objects rather than permanently house them.
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