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Post by strigoil on Jul 31, 2019 19:29:10 GMT
Really interesting video from someone who actually has years and years of experience working on films.
Tod is always a great source of information, and a lot of what he says here makes sense, as much as many of us, including me groan when we see the results.
The explanation of back scabbards and copyright issues between media based on the same source was really good, it puts a lot of things into perspective regarding recent productions like the witcher show where some people including me wish they had borrowed just a bit more aesthetic from the games, but its quite possible they just couldn't.
Tod did also work on the witcher by the way, he also worked on things like outlaw king, wolf Hall, taboo and game of thrones.
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Post by stormmaster on Jul 31, 2019 20:02:37 GMT
i wish the witcher tv show took the nilfgaardian armor from the game lol, instead of the semprini armor they got
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Post by demonskull on Jul 31, 2019 20:26:45 GMT
Thanks for sharing, Tod is always enjoyable.
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Post by Cosmoline on Jul 31, 2019 22:14:21 GMT
I appreciate why they do these things, but that doesn't mean we should stop complaining. We are the people paying to see the stuff.
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Post by paulmuaddib on Jul 31, 2019 23:03:40 GMT
I appreciate why they do these things, but that doesn't mean we should stop complaining. We are the people paying to see the stuff. But to Tod’s point we’re just 1% or less of the paying audience and the 99%+ of the audience doesn’t know or care about this stuff. Just got into swords about 2-3 years ago so I don’t see all the details you guys do. But guns I see all kinds of stuff they do “wrong” and it bothers me but I know it’s Hollywood and just try to enjoy the show in spite of the I guess it could be called flair. A good example are John Woo movies. Love them, but nobody does that circling thing his characters do when shooting guns in real life. But it looks good on film. Anyway not attacking just my 2 cents.
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Post by nddave on Aug 1, 2019 1:03:06 GMT
All good points and realistically all points I believe we as sword enthusiasts understand and respect when it comes to film swords and period settings in films. Though still I think it makes a few feel elite about their knowledge of historical things to call out the inaccuracies of films when most of the time it just comes off as desperate, lol.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 1, 2019 1:22:46 GMT
Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Cosmoline on Aug 1, 2019 17:14:16 GMT
I appreciate why they do these things, but that doesn't mean we should stop complaining. We are the people paying to see the stuff. But to Tod’s point we’re just 1% or less of the paying audience and the 99%+ of the audience doesn’t know or care about this stuff. Just got into swords about 2-3 years ago so I don’t see all the details you guys do. But guns I see all kinds of stuff they do “wrong” and it bothers me but I know it’s Hollywood and just try to enjoy the show in spite of the I guess it could be called flair. A good example are John Woo movies. Love them, but nobody does that circling thing his characters do when shooting guns in real life. But it looks good on film. Anyway not attacking just my 2 cents. I don't believe that 1% concept. Mostly because I've seen the shift in gun fight realism be very successful. That doesn't mean there aren't silly two-gun John Woo shooters out there, but there is more than enough of an audience to keep John Wick in the dog rescue business. "Shut up and enjoy the show" should not be our mantra. We should demand better. I mean, we are paying for it. And in spite of the customs and practices it CAN be better. We know this. Some have done it, like Adorea's group.
The backstory on the shootout in "Heat" shows that nothing changes in Hollywood until someone makes it change. Mann had to fight with his sound and FX people to leave the sound of the 5.56mm blanks in the final cut. There was huge pressure to replace those with the nonsense noises that had always been used for gunshots. The argument was that the audience won't understand if real gunshots are on the soundtrack. The same can be said about the need to show actor's faces out of harness. Or the props that restrict the pointiness of fake swords. All of these things CAN change if there's a will to do so and an audience for it.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 1, 2019 19:39:17 GMT
If anyone that believes what they see in the movies are in trouble. I enjoyed those old B grade westerns as a kid, more than what I now see on the screen now. Even at that age I saw things that I knew could not happen. Not only with those westerns but in general, such as tires screeching in the dirt, and they still do in the movies. Some things never change in tensile land. I saw a British flick that had them screeching in a snow storm. I enjoyed them then and I enjoy them today. I watch the Mexican equivalents in the morning from the 40s and 50s while breakfasting. I find it entertainment and don’t get bent out of shape at things that could not happen. During the 50s the Brits had a Robin Hood series on TV. It wasn’t all that realistic but that didn’t stop me from enjoying it. My dad would give me a quarter Saturday mornings for the movie. Admission was 9¢, popcorn 10¢, and a drink 5¢. That left me with a penny, not much today but back then...
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Post by Cosmoline on Aug 2, 2019 17:28:32 GMT
But it could be so much better.
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