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Post by seth on Jun 22, 2019 21:50:58 GMT
Interesting find in the Yellowstone County Museum in Billings, Montana. No idea of their origin, but they are in great looking shape.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 22, 2019 21:54:41 GMT
Interesting. With the speartip and pronounced ridge they appear to be more like the Prussian N/A 1896, or perhaps the earlier iteration.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 22, 2019 22:16:55 GMT
M1796 LC?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 22:36:45 GMT
Later artillery swords, as Jordan mentions. All them there katana look alike.
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Post by seth on Jun 23, 2019 1:18:30 GMT
The museum identified them as "pattern 1796 light cavalry sabers" though I trust this forum's judgment more than theirs I'll try to stop by again sometime and write down any markings. The one on the right had some stamping on the cross-guard, but I was being dragged along by some impatient kids.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 1:58:46 GMT
Yes, I can see the tag as donated and perhaps listed as such by the donor or estate. Often times, a local museum is simply going with the best information at hand and are not arms experts. I see the tag below describing a US Marines sword with a pretty basic blurb on their history.
The swords pictured do have their roots in the p1796 and early Blucher swords but there are traits listing these as from decades later, long after England was producing them.
The grips and hilts, the center grind spear points all show late 19th century characteristics. Train battalions, mounted police and mounted artillery of Prussian units are what the letters and numbers on the hilts describe.
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Post by Uhlan on Jun 23, 2019 5:29:36 GMT
With the grip wings in the middle, the small langets and the thick guards to me they look more like the later, Blucher inspired, Prussian Artillery sabres. Good to see these two in mint condition and with this nice and I hope original, polish for once. Thanks for showing them. I stole your picture for later reference if you don't mind.
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Post by seth on Jun 23, 2019 20:47:57 GMT
With the grip wings in the middle, the small langets and the thick guards to me they look more like the later, Blucher inspired, Prussian Artillery sabres. Good to see these two in mint condition and with this nice and I hope original, polish for once. Thanks for showing them. I stole your picture for later reference if you don't mind. Sure. I can send the full size picture too if you want.
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Post by Uhlan on Jun 23, 2019 21:32:23 GMT
Thank you, but there is no need. This is the first time I see a Prussian Artillery sabre with a counter polish on the blade. Very interesting. Thanks again for sharing.
Cheers.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 24, 2019 6:36:23 GMT
It also looks somewhat like they have been edged. Uhlan mine has the remnants of it, I think.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 24, 2019 6:41:30 GMT
Also a nice thank you to Seth for posting these up! I'll have to check out the museum's near me for swords. Counter polish? I'm not sure if it is though. Mine had an original service edge and keeps it on the false and forte.
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Post by zabazagobo on Jun 24, 2019 7:18:27 GMT
Also a nice thank you to Seth for posting these up! I'll have to check out the museum's near me for swords. Counter polish? I'm not sure if it is though. Mine had an original service edge and keeps it on the false and forte. What an excellent design.
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Post by Uhlan on Jun 24, 2019 9:01:28 GMT
Excellent workmanship. See that little ridge at the tip?
As to the counter polish: The one on the right has it. At least that is what I see. Extends to, I think, 2" from the langet. The black under the langet tip is shadow from the langet? The more I look at these two, the more I appreciate them. Every line is so crisp, like they never have been touched up. Like they came straight from the factory. Even if they have stamps it looks like they were never issued or saw real use.
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