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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 18, 2019 2:09:54 GMT
I bought a Springfield production Patton #8857 last year. Really bought it to strip several accessories from it to upgrade my two earlier production SAs.
After it was received I noted the sword's got a serious alignment bend down at the ricasso, like someone pile drove this into a board fence, to the hilt.
Needs to have the sword taken down and the blade realigned.
Anybody interested and able, send me a message and we can go thru the requirements.
Cheers.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 18, 2019 6:58:20 GMT
Bent like sabred or taken a set?
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 18, 2019 13:47:16 GMT
Bent like sabred or taken a set? Went back and took a serious look. The ricasso isn't bent; it;s the blade forward of the ricasso that is bent. There is some setting in the upper half of the blade. That isn't of great concern. The bend on the other hand give the sword a goofy handling feel. Sword pulls noticeably when making simple movements.
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Post by Uhlan on Jun 18, 2019 14:07:59 GMT
Do you have a vise? One that is unmovable? (not mounted on the sideboard :)) If so then it can be done with just bending it back in stages. You will have to mark the exact spot where the bend starts. Preferably outside with good light.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 18, 2019 18:56:02 GMT
I've done similar operations to reproductions and antiques further along the blade and in the forte, I'm no armorer but I'd be happy to help out with it.
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Post by Uhlan on Jun 19, 2019 6:46:22 GMT
Yes, it is quite easy. Use your weight to yank/pull the blade trough its momentum. But you sure have to secure it though. I did blades over my knee. Those bends where further up of course, but still.
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Post by paulrward on Jun 20, 2019 3:38:12 GMT
Hello Mr. Kelly :
Can you post a few pictures of the bent sword blade ? This would give me some idea of how to get it back straight. I have 'tweaked' a few Pattons over the years, and have had some success with them. The key element is to try to get it right the first time, as the steel actually 'wants' to get straight again. However, too much back and forth will weaken it, and then the blade will simply bend again at the same point at a later date.
Respectfully :
Paul R. Ward
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 21, 2019 10:11:11 GMT
Hello Mr. Kelly : Can you post a few pictures of the bent sword blade ? This would give me some idea of how to get it back straight. I have 'tweaked' a few Pattons over the years, and have had some success with them. The key element is to try to get it right the first time, as the steel actually 'wants' to get straight again. However, too much back and forth will weaken it, and then the blade will simply bend again at the same point at a later date. Respectfully : Paul R. Ward Hello Paul: Glad to see you are still in there pitchin ;) Been paying time as a patient this week. (Nothing earth shaking, trying to bust a chronic cough after ten weeks of pneumonia. Catscan says there are no underlying major critical threats involved. For a senior that always qualifies with, "for now". Try to get some meaningful pics online this afternoon. The damage is right in front of the ricasso and doesn't look as bad as what it does to the feel of handling.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 21, 2019 10:16:20 GMT
Do you have a vise? One that is unmovable? (not mounted on the sideboard If so then it can be done with just bending it back in stages. You will have to mark the exact spot where the bend starts. Preferably outside with good light. How many times do I have to tell you: I don't have any tools. I DO have seven fingers on each paw, a wet nose and rabbit ears. Thus an SOS for mechanical help. All I need to know is how many carrots you want to get the job done.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 21, 2019 22:00:43 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Jun 21, 2019 22:44:16 GMT
Sounds like you are recovering but those lingering coughs can be a nuisance . Now that the incites are done, hehe, where to buy a sword knot for my M1913 repo?
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 21, 2019 23:42:03 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 21, 2019 23:56:02 GMT
I always wonder how blades take sets like that in the forte. The foible seems like a more likely suspect for absorbing that shock. Unless a trooper was showing off by doing some pull ups on it...
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Post by pgandy on Jun 22, 2019 1:52:41 GMT
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 22, 2019 6:47:10 GMT
I always wonder how blades take sets like that in the forte. The foible seems like a more likely suspect for absorbing that shock. Unless a trooper was showing off by doing some pull ups on it... On a training range and thrust into a target too deep and too late. Couldn't release the blade on time and yanked it out after passing.
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Post by Uhlan on Jun 22, 2019 9:50:15 GMT
Yes, I know that your mechanics are challenged, but to do this is so easy. You could even, if your house has a good strong front door, stick the blade between the door and the door frame and yank it back into shape. Or go to the local auto repair shop and have them do it for some $$. They have the tools. And probably someone called Big Cornelius to do the yanking. :)
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jul 1, 2019 20:18:57 GMT
A shout out for Mr Williams for taking the sword in and doing a bang up job, above and beyond what was required, having straightened every little turn in the blade. Looks good and handles with a correct balance. Bravissimo!
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Post by markus313 on Jul 1, 2019 21:30:01 GMT
Good to hear, that's a great job!
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Post by pgandy on Jul 2, 2019 1:40:49 GMT
It was good to hear that Jordan got the matter straightened out for you.
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