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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 8, 2019 7:17:04 GMT
Here's the sword: Three screws off: Full tang! You can screw on only the slab handles to get a Tactical Shashka: Here with the back slab, it's absolutely tight! Could work in a huge sword cane. The handling has improved this way, it's similar to an arming sword. Don't know why, the bowl guard hasn't much weight. Edit: Phew, to put this thing together again was an unexpected struggle. The bowl guard works a bit like a spring and there's a trick how to thread in the tang to get the back slap into the "fuchi". Btw, there are structural resemblances to katana mountings, seppa, fuchi, mekugi screws.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 8, 2019 13:53:07 GMT
Don’t you hate it when something is reluctant to reassemble, or whatever came out of the box so easily but refuses to go back?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 8, 2019 15:14:49 GMT
I uttered many holy and less holy words! Thank god it didn't take too long until I found out the trick. Unfortunately I forgot to take some measurements from the bare blade and now I'm not sure if I want to take it apart again. I think you would like the blade only with the three slabs screwed on. It's like a sword cane sword on steroids.
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Post by christain on Jun 8, 2019 15:36:19 GMT
That's pretty damn cool. Way outside of my collecting interests, but it makes me kinda want one.
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Post by wlewisiii on Jun 8, 2019 17:53:19 GMT
Interesting! I have pondered getting a Patton, taking the guard from it and putting it on a 1906 blade to make a faux XM1911 that the Patton superceded. More to think about.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 8, 2019 17:58:23 GMT
Interesting! I have pondered getting a Patton, taking the guard from it and putting it on a 1906 blade to make a faux XM1911 that the Patton superceded. More to think about. There have been some lose M1860 blades popping up on eBay recently, Would be interesting to see how it would turn out.
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Post by wlewisiii on Jun 8, 2019 18:00:54 GMT
Interesting! I have pondered getting a Patton, taking the guard from it and putting it on a 1906 blade to make a faux XM1911 that the Patton superceded. More to think about. There have been some lose M1860 blades popping up on eBay recently, Would be interesting to see how it would turn out. My wallet now hates you Off to Eprey!
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Jun 8, 2019 18:47:10 GMT
Here's the sword: Three screws off: Full tang! You can screw on only the slab handles to get a Tactical Shashka: Here with the back slab, it's absolutely tight! Could work in a huge sword cane. The handling has improved this way, it's similar to an arming sword. Don't know why, the bowl guard hasn't much weight. Edit: Phew, to put this thing together again was an unexpected struggle. The bowl guard works a bit like a spring and there's a trick how to thread in the tang to get the back slap into the "fuchi". Btw, there are structural resemblances to katana mountings, seppa, fuchi, mekugi screws. Would you consider the blade to be a good candidate for repurposing in a project blade way? I like the look of the blade, but the hilt has always seemed ugly to me. Since it isn't very expensive, I was thinking about getting one and maybe rehilting it with stirrup sabre, smallsword, or rapier furniture (I realize that the tang would need to be reshaped). That said, I wouldn't want to waste the time and effort on a merely acceptable blade.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 8, 2019 20:08:12 GMT
Doggone your hide Andi, you cost me this afternoon. I finally found one and pulled the trigger. KoA and MRL had them for a few months after a long absence, then no more. I checked again today and both were still out, am sure that I checked Amazon and eBay in the past also with no luck. The one I found was with ACC. As recently as last month they had none. Today they had one only and only one in stock. Must have found it somewhere in a corner when cleaning. I’ll bet it doesn’t say Marto on it. Hehe ACC had been honouring MRL’s promo code but today I couldn’t find where to enter it. They gave free shipping which pretty much would have equalled the 10% discount. I would have rather had both. I’ve been wanting this sword off and on for some time and it’s worth the asking price of $169.95 just to get it out of my system.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 9, 2019 0:44:39 GMT
I posted the measurements in the Sword Construction Data Base. The blade is relative thick, sturdy and not light. Only with the slabs screwed on the handling feels similar to my H/T EMSHS, less wide but thicker. This blade is made for powerfull attacking with thrust and cut but is probably too slow for defensive fencing. One could call it a really heavy rapier with a shorter blade. In a duel situation you'll need a shield, buckler or parrying dagger and the duel shouldn't last long. I do now understand the difference between a heavy cavalry attack sword and a cut and thrust rapier. But it is an impressive weapon. I'm saying "Windlass/Marto" because I think it's possible they changed some things compared to the older Windlass models. Mine is a few oz heavier than the one in Dave Kelly's review.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 9, 2019 8:51:22 GMT
And yeah, it's really cheap, even in Germany, 170 EURO. I paid extra for sharpening. Due to the thick and narrow blade it's not very sharp nevertheless, but it'll do the job.
I did more handling comparisons. The most similar handling has my Windlass Munich with its very heavy hilt an pommel. My other heavy swords have more weight in the blade and not in the hilt.
Perhaps I'm sounding too much like complaining but I only try to explain how it handles. One should know what he gets with this beast. I really like it after some accustoming.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 11, 2019 18:37:35 GMT
Two new experiences: I feel with Sharpe and his 1796 HC sword. My other swords feel so nimble now.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 11, 2019 19:06:47 GMT
My other swords feel so nimble now. Handling heavy swords have that advantage. I use to do my daily PT with my Windlass German Bastard Sword sheathed at 4.7 lbs. I swear that took a few ounces off of my other swords. I’ll have to check on the shipping status of my M1913 shortly. As of yesterday nothing was showing. Reckon that 4.7 lbs. will give any favour to handling that M1913? Hehe
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 11, 2019 19:21:51 GMT
Much fun!
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Post by howler on Jun 11, 2019 19:42:08 GMT
The trick is keeping the full mug from not SOMEHOW...burp...getting lighter. Answer is quick top offs from nearby waitress.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 11, 2019 19:49:05 GMT
That's an old Bavarian test of manliness: Keep the full tankard away from your thirsty mouth as long as you can! Bavarian record: 1.03 sec (Picture was taken at 0.96 sec)
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Post by Spathologist on Jun 12, 2019 2:41:08 GMT
Here's the sword: Three screws off: Full tang! You can screw on only the slab handles to get a Tactical Shashka: Here with the back slab, it's absolutely tight! Could work in a huge sword cane. The handling has improved this way, it's similar to an arming sword. Don't know why, the bowl guard hasn't much weight. Edit: Phew, to put this thing together again was an unexpected struggle. The bowl guard works a bit like a spring and there's a trick how to thread in the tang to get the back slap into the "fuchi". Btw, there are structural resemblances to katana mountings, seppa, fuchi, mekugi screws. Would you consider the blade to be a good candidate for repurposing in a project blade way? I like the look of the blade, but the hilt has always seemed ugly to me. Since it isn't very expensive, I was thinking about getting one and maybe rehilting it with stirrup sabre, smallsword, or rapier furniture (I realize that the tang would need to be reshaped). That said, I wouldn't want to waste the time and effort on a merely acceptable blade. A truck suspension spring leaf would have approximately the same handling and sharpening characteristics.
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Post by Spathologist on Jun 12, 2019 2:44:41 GMT
Interesting! I have pondered getting a Patton, taking the guard from it and putting it on a 1906 blade to make a faux XM1911 that the Patton superceded. More to think about. Interesting concept. You'd need to replace the grip leather with shagreen, figure out how to mount the top strap and then peen the tang at the back of the top strap.
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