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Post by Darth Paunch on Jun 2, 2019 16:47:11 GMT
Umm, what about Albion’s Conan swords ? Those are totally different designs though... and actually sort of infamous for being clunky just due to the massive size of the hilt and blade. I second that; the only really wieldable versions of the Atlantean are Jeffrey Robinsons "Antedeluvian" and the Ryan Sword model. Yet both are still around 3,5 and 3,18 kg so we are talking big Zweihaender/Flamberge weights here on a bastard size sword. Good, useable and well made fantasy swords are HARD to find; thats why i started collecting katana, chinese and euro historical stuff as well. Windlass has some nice pieces, check "swords/fantasy" at KOA and narrow it by "sort by price/show battlwe ready only". Pity you find all the DSA models there too, which i dont get with KOA as well, especially after a quite frankly spoken email considering DSA i received from them some time ago... |
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Post by Darth Paunch on Jun 2, 2019 17:00:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 17:31:15 GMT
Oh my God... I will never buy from Cold Steel again. I have one sword, there will never be a second. That is horrible! I find it distasteful enough when people test swords and other weapons on dead animals, but to test them on live animals is just disgusting. One almost wishes a fish would leap out of the water and thump that person on his head, but I fear there is not much to damage there. I recently saw a video someone posted wherein they tested a new sword by Wes Beem, I think, and they had a dead deer strung up by the head and they decapitated it. There was no warning or disclaimer, just off with Bambi's head. It's really unnecessary, even if you humanely killed the animal and intend to eat it. It really makes me sick, and yes I am judging you if you string up Bambi and slice off its head. Perhaps my opinion is unpopular in these circles, but there you have it. I'll step off my soap box.
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Post by kaiyo on Jun 2, 2019 17:49:53 GMT
i have the Albion Conan Atlantean and its also very wieldable, of course these swords are not made for the weak...
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Post by kaiyo on Jun 2, 2019 17:54:56 GMT
to the Cold Steel issue with sword testing on (live) animals, i also find that highly disgusting
and people who do this are just as*h*les, but got to remember the japanese also did this to humans,
some of them criminals who were still alive
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 18:04:16 GMT
to the Cold Steel issue with sword testing on (live) animals, i also find that highly disgusting and people who do this are just as*h*les, but got to remember the japanese also did this to humans, some of them criminals who were still alive The Japanese had criminals swim downstream so they could spear them with katanas, record their death thralls, slap their logo feces on the video and post it on YouTube? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 18:12:35 GMT
Come on...the dead animals too? Lol @ the mental gymnastics it would require for a person that has an interest in weapons that were literally used to brutally cut people down to be bothered by someone cutting up a dead pig or deer that the person was going to eat anyway. Absolutely incredible. I believe I used words like unnecessary and disgusting, and I complained about the lack of disclaimers on such videos. I don't want to see them. I don't want to see people being cut down either. |
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Post by pgandy on Jun 2, 2019 18:25:44 GMT
Oh my God... I will never buy from Cold Steel again. I have one sword, there will never be a second. That is horrible! I find it distasteful enough when people test swords and other weapons on dead animals, but to test them on live animals is just disgusting. One almost wishes a fish would leap out of the water and thump that person on his head, but I fear there is not much to damage there. I recently saw a video someone posted wherein they tested a new sword by Wes Beem, I think, and they had a dead deer strung up by the head and they decapitated it. There was no warning or disclaimer, just off with Bambi's head. It's really unnecessary, even if you humanely killed the animal and intend to eat it. It really makes me sick, and yes I am judging you if you string up Bambi and slice off its head. Perhaps my opinion is unpopular in these circles, but there you have it. I'll step off my soap box. A word of warning, never go into a chicken processing plant. I would imagine other types of processing of plants are equal. I was in one for a job interview and they took me for a tour. First the chickens arrived in over crowed wooden crates which weren’t handled with the greatest of care. I can’t remember the next step in doing so but the chickens had their leg bound together so the overhead hook on a conveyor had something to anchor to. Once on the conveyor they were transported upside down to the next operation being a circular saw with a blade turning horizontally slitting the chickens’ neck. No decapitation at this point only bloodletting/killing. That area was a bit messy with blood splattered all over and water constantly flushing. I think by now you are getting the picture. I have no intention of getting into the argument only want to point that there are millions of anti-hunting, animal lovers out there that go to the grocery store or wherever they purchase their meat and enjoy it to the fullest and wouldn’t think of passing the day without some. Including eggs, unborn embryos, of animals. The conditions in which these animals are raised and processed is something most of the public has not seen and hopefully never will if the owners have their way. The man, Medley, fishing with sword is out of Texas if I’m not mistaking. He had a serious with blowpipe hunting. As for Thompson testing swords on living animals, I have seen no evidence of that, not saying it does not exist. I’ve seen blowpipes on pigeons. |
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Post by elbrittania39 on Jun 2, 2019 18:28:36 GMT
Come on...the dead animals too? Lol @ the mental gymnastics it would require for a person that has an interest in weapons that were literally used to brutally cut people down to be bothered by someone cutting up a dead pig or deer that the person was going to eat anyway. Absolutely incredible. I've never seen someone this indignant over opposition to killing animals for no good reason lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 18:33:51 GMT
Oh my God... I will never buy from Cold Steel again. I have one sword, there will never be a second. That is horrible! I find it distasteful enough when people test swords and other weapons on dead animals, but to test them on live animals is just disgusting. One almost wishes a fish would leap out of the water and thump that person on his head, but I fear there is not much to damage there. I recently saw a video someone posted wherein they tested a new sword by Wes Beem, I think, and they had a dead deer strung up by the head and they decapitated it. There was no warning or disclaimer, just off with Bambi's head. It's really unnecessary, even if you humanely killed the animal and intend to eat it. It really makes me sick, and yes I am judging you if you string up Bambi and slice off its head. Perhaps my opinion is unpopular in these circles, but there you have it. I'll step off my soap box. A word of warning, never go into a chicken processing plant. I would imagine other types of processing of plants are equal. I was in one for a job interview and they took me for a tour. First the chickens arrived in over crowed wooden crates which weren’t handled with the greatest of care. I can’t remember the next step in doing so but the chickens had their leg bound together so the overhead hook on a conveyor had something to anchor to. Once on the conveyor they were transported upside down to the next operation being a circular saw with a blade turning horizontally slitting the chickens’ neck. No decapitation at this point only bloodletting/killing. That area was a bit messy with blood splattered all over and water constantly flushing. I think by now you are getting the picture. I have no intention of getting into the argument only want to point that there are millions of anti-hunting, animal lovers out there that go to the grocery store or wherever they purchase their meat and enjoy it to the fullest and wouldn’t think of passing the day without some. Including eggs, unborn embryos, of animals. The conditions in which these animals are raised and processed is something most of the public has not seen and hopefully never will if the owners have their way. The man, Medley, fishing with sword is out of Texas if I’m not mistaking. He had a serious with blowpipe hunting. As for Thompson testing swords on living animals, I have seen no evidence of that, not saying it does not exist. I’ve seen blowpipes on pigeons. I have been inside slaughter houses AND chicken processing plants. I have also been on a hunt. Let me be clear: I don't want to see these videos. It's really that simple. Slaughtering animals for food is not unnecessary. I eat animals, slaughtering them is necessary if you intend to eat them. Recording the dismembering and desiccation of their remains for the purpose of "testing" a sword blade is, in my unpopular view, disgusting, unnecessary, distasteful, gross, etc... It's also a form of advertising that is unnecessary and unethical. It's really that simple. I just don't want to see that crap.
Perhaps there is a bit of cognitive dissonance at work here between what I am capable of imagining and the media I will tolerate to watch. I can imagine myself flying and having sex with Chris Hemsworth, neither is ever going to happen. Similarly, I can imagine swords being used to cut human beings down, but I don't want to see videos of people being cut down. Nor do I wish to see videos of animals, living or dead, being cut down. It's that simple. |
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Post by pgandy on Jun 2, 2019 19:23:01 GMT
I understand. I am a mod on a blowgun form. We have a special section for hunting so those that like to hunt can share their photos and videos without upsetting those that don’t want to see those things. Perhaps this forum should have such a spot. Several times I’ve declined from posting something because I thought it might offend some.
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Post by reptaronice1 on Jun 2, 2019 20:00:02 GMT
That blacksword is Bad $emprini! It is just sad that it is not sharpened and if the guard material is not good that is concerning |
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Post by elbrittania39 on Jun 2, 2019 20:31:48 GMT
That blacksword is Bad $emprini! It is just sad that it is not sharpened and if the guard material is not good that is concerning well koa offers a sharpening service |
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Post by reptaronice1 on Jun 2, 2019 20:33:21 GMT
That blacksword is Bad $emprini! It is just sad that it is not sharpened and if the guard material is not good that is concerning well koa offers a sharpening service Just the guard is concerning then. |
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Post by reptaronice1 on Jun 2, 2019 20:38:14 GMT
I understand. I am a mod on a blowgun form. We have a special section for hunting so those that like to hunt can share their photos and videos without upsetting those that don’t want to see those things. Perhaps this forum should have such a spot. Several times I’ve declined from posting something because I thought it might offend some. Same with my airgun forum, I myself am a hunter and enjoy eating game and making different recipes and such. But it is nice to have a closed off section for the hunters so we do not offend others. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 20:44:25 GMT
I understand. I am a mod on a blowgun form. We have a special section for hunting so those that like to hunt can share their photos and videos without upsetting those that don’t want to see those things. Perhaps this forum should have such a spot. Several times I’ve declined from posting something because I thought it might offend some. Same with my airgun forum, I myself am a hunter and enjoy eating game and making different recipes and such. But it is nice to have a closed off section for the hunters so we do not offend others. In this case, I am not upset that the video was posted here. I'm upset the video was made in the first place. I was never a fan of Cold Steel, but seeing that image of the leopard made me dislike them even more than I already do. The video of the fish being impaled was absurd; THAT is what sent me over the edge. Slaughtering a fish with a katana (which is akin to killing a mosquito with a canon) in order to sell a product that was never designed to kill aquatic creatures. The katana was designed to cut human flesh, and it was a backup weapon anyway! This video was like a bad Monty Python sketch. |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 2, 2019 21:26:24 GMT
I can't even count how many animals I've been payed to kill when I had a job keeping geese off of fields. To me, killing fish with a sword instead of a spear honestly seems fun. I mean, it was done for ages by my ancestors in both the new and old world, and doesn't hurt people. It's unnecessary but at the end of the day I think it's way less cruel than what Gandy described per chickens.
But I grew up on ranches where animals died and people moved on. I had like 3 of my own dogs die, and the family dogs routinely passed. So I am fairly biased about feeling towards animals.
Not saying any of this to say I'm tough or cold, just putting my own experiences in the topic.
Don't know enough about how regulated exotic animal hunting works and it's benefits/non benefits to comment on it.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 2, 2019 21:28:45 GMT
I will say I would rather be stabbed with a sword and killed that way than drug around with a hook in my mouth and then clobbered with a cudgel.  |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jun 2, 2019 21:31:06 GMT
CS iirc donates all the meat they chop up anyways, so humorously enough they're doing actually quite a lot of charity work.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 21:38:04 GMT
Still, it does look vaguely ridiculous. Man poised in fighting stance, lunges with sword, drags up... a fish? His other video where he uses a fish spear makes more sense.
(Disclosure, also grew up on a farm, decades of hunting experience. Was taught from the start, you eat what you kill. And it's your responsibility as a hunter to make the kill quickly, cleanly, and the prey does not suffer.)
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