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Post by joeybones on May 27, 2019 15:05:45 GMT
I purchased a Deepeeka triple lobed Godfred Viking sword from KOA a few weeks ago. I hadn't time to examine it until this morning. I know you are suppose to expect a few minor defects with Deepeeka . Overall I like the looks of the sword. I like that the fittings are not high polished giving it a bit of an aged look. I ordered the Deluxe Scabbard version and I am happy with the scabbard. However the blade is not so appealing . I was cleaning it with some Simichrome polish and as I slid the rag down the side of the blade holding it between my thumb and forefinger all I could feel was waves. There are also some rather visible hammer marks and deviations on the blade. I did not order the sharpening service but I am glad I didn't spend $30.00 .more dollars on this sword. The fuller has a strange bulge on one side. following the fuller down the blade it does not align with the point of the sword , which is off a bit on one side anyway. I know KOA inspects their blades before shipping so this must be one of the better ones . I wonder what ones that didn't pass inspection looks like ? I find it strange that you can buy a 40 dollar Katana made in China and get a near flawless finished blade but spend $135.00 on a sword made in India that is so poorly finished . I was uable to capture the wavy blade due to my limited photographic skills with an iphone .
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Post by csills2313 on May 27, 2019 19:12:51 GMT
Wow. They really botched that one. Definitely need to improve their quality control. Chinese makers on average do seem to be better at making blades than some of their Indian counterparts. Perhaps they have slightly better manufacturing processes.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on May 27, 2019 19:41:03 GMT
Deepeeka has a poor reputation for a reason. Their products are wildly inconsistent in quality. I would assume that KoA's criteria for judging product acceptability is different for production houses like Deepeeka, than it is for producers with a generally higher level of quality.
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Post by christain on May 27, 2019 23:46:12 GMT
Deepeeka has always been kinda hit or miss in their swords. I seem to have noticed better reviews of their products in the last few years, but those reviews likely come mostly from those who don't really know high-quality swords. I will say that you probably just got a 'Monday' or 'Friday' sword from KOA...someone was asleep at the wheel on the inspection table. I'd be sending it back.
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Post by pellius on May 28, 2019 0:44:38 GMT
Thanks for sharing your experience. Bummer it was a disappointing one.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on May 28, 2019 7:18:54 GMT
$135.50 for a functional sword with an actual wood+leather scabbard w/brass chape....with the only issues being a relatively cosmetic fuller bulge issue and some deviations on the blade? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean we have to keep things in perspective, no offense intended. This. I'd also be more interested in what the tang looks like, how the temper is and how it cuts.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 28, 2019 7:25:16 GMT
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Post by William Swiger on May 28, 2019 10:03:13 GMT
Anyone want to trade their Deepeeka swords for my Albion ones...... Seriously, some Deepeeka swords remind me of some of the old MRL and DSA offerings. I did buy a Deepeeka from KOA and had them sharpen it. It is fine for the price. I bought the sword as other makers do not replicate that Viking pommel type.
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Post by joeybones on May 28, 2019 10:27:50 GMT
I bought a Cold Steel 1796 light cavalry saber recently for $140.00 and there ain't no flaws in that blade . I have a cold steel sharpened crowbar ,, um I mean a cold steel 1917 cutlass I bought for around $125.00 and there ain't no flaws in that blade either.
All made in India.
The fittings are fine I just wish they attached them to a nicer blade .
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Post by Darth Paunch on May 28, 2019 11:22:19 GMT
$135.50 for a functional sword with an actual wood+leather scabbard w/brass chape....with the only issues being a relatively cosmetic fuller bulge issue and some deviations on the blade? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean we have to keep things in perspective, no offense intended. This. I have this on Windlasses, not so prominent though. Theyre higher price level. I had this on all of my DSAs, except the last one remaining, my Guardian. And those were 500 dollar swords already back in the days...
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Post by Darth Paunch on May 28, 2019 11:26:57 GMT
I bought a Cold Steel 1796 light cavalry saber recently for $140.00 and there ain't no flaws in that blade . I have a cold steel sharpened crowbar ,, um I mean a cold steel 1917 cutlass I bought for around $125.00 and there ain't no flaws in that blade either. All made in India. The fittings are fine I just wish they attached them to a nicer blade . Please tell me where to buy a $40 chinatana with an "almost flawless" blade. My "almost flawless" blades are from Huawei or Sinosword, $120 to $199 And where to get those CS saber and cutlass. I am collecting since 2012 and never found such a cheap sword source. Oh, and discounts... dont count! ;-)
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Post by joeybones on May 28, 2019 14:38:09 GMT
Well I have 2. I bought them over 20 years ago, One Wakizashi from China on eBay and one katana from Smoky Mountain knife works . Don't remember the brands but to be fair at my age I don't often remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.
Looking at the Katana it has a nice bo-zo , the Mr. Miyagi is good as is the Tuba and the Yoko Ono but the Hibachi is Sori yet the Sake is good . The Sami-Hada little lamb is nicely done and overall the Moonie is exceptional at this price point.
Sorry my knowledge of Japanese sword parts is a bit rusty
All I am saying is the blades on the cheapo Chinese swords I have look a hell of a lot better then the Deepeeka .
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 28, 2019 17:01:43 GMT
I bought a Cold Steel 1796 light cavalry saber recently for $140.00 and there ain't no flaws in that blade . I have a cold steel sharpened crowbar ,, um I mean a cold steel 1917 cutlass I bought for around $125.00 and there ain't no flaws in that blade either. All made in India. The fittings are fine I just wish they attached them to a nicer blade . Please tell me where to buy a $40 chinatana with an "almost flawless" blade. My "almost flawless" blades are from Huawei or Sinosword, $120 to $199 And where to get those CS saber and cutlass. I am collecting since 2012 and never found such a cheap sword source. Oh, and discounts... dont count! ;-) On eBay you can catch the retailers at those prices as they will sometimes drop them for a very short while before raising them.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on May 28, 2019 17:36:04 GMT
Here is a Deepeeka Viking tang, a different model but I think they are built similarily.
These things are way overbuilt, huge hilts, thick edges etc. The Hersir I had was just massive in hilt proportions.
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Post by joeybones on May 28, 2019 19:57:12 GMT
I would have preferred the Hersir but KOA has had them on backorder and I didn't want to wait any longer.
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Post by WVfishguy on May 30, 2019 2:32:34 GMT
I'm impressed with the tang on the Deepeeka! Looks super tough.
I've actually thought of buying a Deepeeka and using the scabbard for a more expensive sword.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 5:30:12 GMT
No doubt that these could be a disappointment but the reality of Chinese cost vs the rest of the suppliers kind of puts things in perspective. Deepeeka is a go to site for costume and re-enactors. A truth is that the Roman period swords have become one sector where they have actually been doing things right. Close to two decades ago now, they announced a "battle ready" level of swords and the result now is dozens of models, few of them fit for more than projects.
The specifications listed by KOA have been a blessing but to ignore those realities may be a good measure of other factors. I don't suppose you contacted them for a return but I don't think I would have expected perfection anyway. It can still sting though and add to the experiences of "collecting".
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Post by pgandy on May 30, 2019 5:46:28 GMT
I can understand your disappointment but I think you expect too much from Deepeeka. I assume that it came from KoA and I understand that they are good about returns if their guidelines are followed, I’ve never returned but lived with the issue. I think that you a over reacting a bit but if not satisfactory why don’t you just return the thing? The antiques were not perfect either in many cases, faults depended on the smith’s abilities.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 30, 2019 6:23:26 GMT
Maybe after a few days you'll get accustomed to the flaws. Happened to me. It's also not bad to have a sword that can't "get worse" for sharpening training or other things that you would never do with a gem. F. e. make a spatular tip and a lenticular blade cross section above the end of the fuller. A rougher polish makes flaws less visible.
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Post by joeybones on May 31, 2019 11:00:49 GMT
I know KOA has a good return policy but my idea of a bad blade might not be the same as theirs. Especially since it's Deepeeka.
If I had to pay return shipping or restocking fees it probably would not be worth the effort and if I exchanged it , the next one might be worse .
Besides my sister's 70th birthday is coming up soon and I cant think of a nicer gift then a Viking sword.
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