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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 2:24:27 GMT
Looking for fittings for the Hanwei Tinker and wanted to see if anyone knew of a good shop that sold them for a good price. Thanks.
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Post by strigoil on May 24, 2019 2:26:30 GMT
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 2:29:41 GMT
Thank you So you can mix and match pommels and guards to?
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Post by strigoil on May 24, 2019 2:36:01 GMT
I'm not sure, I have no experience with it myself, but plenty on here do so someone will probably pop by and answer.
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 2:37:41 GMT
Any other places I could look as some of these are out of stock.
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Post by strigoil on May 24, 2019 2:41:18 GMT
Not that I know of, sorry, I've never really shopped for HT swords, I just know those fittings are well regarded
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 2:44:12 GMT
Not that I know of, sorry, I've never really shopped for HT swords, I just know those fittings are well regarded Thanks I am new to euro swords and am just looking for something cheaper so a sword around $200 and then hopefully $50 fittings. I like these but they are not in stock.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on May 24, 2019 3:15:17 GMT
I am new to euro swords and am just looking for something cheaper so a sword around $200 and then hopefully $50 fittings. I like these but they are not in stock. Yep, the unfinished Dunvegan fittings out of stock until maybe next year... in the meantime, we do have the polished and antiqued versions of the Dunvegan fittings for the H/T EMSHS swords found here www.lgmartialarts.com/h-t-early-medival-single-handed-sword-fittings/
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Post by LG Martial Arts on May 24, 2019 3:18:12 GMT
Thank you So you can mix and match pommels and guards to? You can mix and match fittings, but not really doable from the online store (not set up to do so - too many coding problems). You would have to DM me here or email at support@lgmartialarts.com to do so.
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 3:26:21 GMT
I am new to euro swords and am just looking for something cheaper so a sword around $200 and then hopefully $50 fittings. I like these but they are not in stock. Yep, the unfinished Dunvegan fittings out of stock until maybe next year... in the meantime, we do have the polished and antiqued versions of the Dunvegan fittings for the H/T EMSHS swords found here www.lgmartialarts.com/h-t-early-medival-single-handed-sword-fittings/i like them but it comes down to do I want to drop $80 on just a pommel and guard. I mean you could buy a whole katana for that price.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on May 24, 2019 3:59:51 GMT
Unfortunately fittings for Euro swords are harder to come by than ones for Japanese swords, and are not generally cheap, so you cannot really compare the two. $80 is not at all expensive, especially when you factor in quality. One of the better deals to be had.
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 4:01:38 GMT
Unfortunately fittings for Euro swords are harder to come by than ones for Japanese swords, and are not generally cheap, so you cannot really compare the two. $80 is not at all expensive, especially when you factor in quality. One of the better deals to be had. It just seems very pricey because $220 for the sword plus $20 sharpening and then $80 for the fittings, you could get a nice clay tempered T10 huawei for that price lol. I guess it is just what everyone likes. These are hand forged right the sword?
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Post by Adrian Jordan on May 24, 2019 4:24:57 GMT
It may seem pricey, but as you venture further into collecting, especially if you continue into Euro territory, you will find that it's really not. At all. Consider that all together for the sword, sharpening and new fittings you be put back $320-ish for a quality, customized piece. With a scabbard, no less. Euro swords don't always come with a scabbard, and it can cost around $300 for a very simple, basic one. No joke.As I said, you cannot base Euro styled prices with Japanese styled prices. It's just two completely different animals.
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 4:30:40 GMT
It may seem pricey, but as you venture further into collecting, especially if you continue into Euro territory, you will find that it's really not. At all. Consider that all together for the sword, sharpening and new fittings you be put back $320-ish for a quality, customized piece. With a scabbard, no less. Euro swords don't always come with a scabbard, and it can cost around $300 for a very simple, basic one. No joke.As I said, you cannot base Euro styled prices with Japanese styled prices. It's just two completely different animals. Is the tinker hand forged? I may just save for a little longer
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 4:31:00 GMT
It may seem pricey, but as you venture further into collecting, especially if you continue into Euro territory, you will find that it's really not. At all. Consider that all together for the sword, sharpening and new fittings you be put back $320-ish for a quality, customized piece. With a scabbard, no less. Euro swords don't always come with a scabbard, and it can cost around $300 for a very simple, basic one. No joke.As I said, you cannot base Euro styled prices with Japanese styled prices. It's just two completely different animals. It seems Euro swords are more pricey
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 24, 2019 6:44:15 GMT
i like them but it comes down to do I want to drop $80 on just a pommel and guard. I mean you could buy a whole katana for that price. You're not just paying 80 bucks for the steel, you're paying 80 bucks for the knowledge that went into it, the design, the polish work, and the fact that spare and loose euro fittings are extremely hard to find. Also any katana you get for 80 bucks will either be garbage, an unnoticed auction item or very generous price, or made by wage slaves/people in a country with far fewer rights than they should have. It is easier to find parts to antique European swords loosely floating around on eBay than newly made reproduction parts at the moment. 80 bucks ain't much... Is the tinker hand forged? I may just save for a little longer Hand forged vs stock removal is really a non issue unless you're peculiar about having a sword be made in a traditional manner. Windlass are hand forged I believe at least according to their marketing material I have seen, while many makers choose stock removal. Doesn't have an effect on quality at all. Consider the work and research that goes into the better sword replicas, especially when it comes to Arms and Armor, Albion, or customs and you'll quickly find the price can be justified in most if not all cases.
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 6:48:57 GMT
i like them but it comes down to do I want to drop $80 on just a pommel and guard. I mean you could buy a whole katana for that price. You're not just paying 80 bucks for the steel, you're paying 80 bucks for the knowledge that went into it, the design, the polish work, and the fact that spare and loose euro fittings are extremely hard to find. Also any katana you get for 80 bucks will either be garbage, an unnoticed auction item or very generous price, or made by wage slaves/people in a country with far fewer rights than they should have. It is easier to find parts to antique European swords loosely floating around on eBay than newly made reproduction parts at the moment. 80 bucks ain't much... Is the tinker hand forged? I may just save for a little longer Hand forged vs stock removal is really a non issue unless you're peculiar about having a sword be made in a traditional manner. Windlass are hand forged I believe at least according to their marketing material I have seen, while many makers choose stock removal. Doesn't have an effect on quality at all. Consider the work and research that goes into the better sword replicas, especially when it comes to Arms and Armor, Albion, or customs and you'll quickly find the price can be justified in most if not all cases. I just like forged all my musha and huawei are forged so thats why I like them. I just feel like a stock removal doesnt take any effort.
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Post by reptaronice1 on May 24, 2019 6:50:26 GMT
You're not just paying 80 bucks for the steel, you're paying 80 bucks for the knowledge that went into it, the design, the polish work, and the fact that spare and loose euro fittings are extremely hard to find. Also any katana you get for 80 bucks will either be garbage, an unnoticed auction item or very generous price, or made by wage slaves/people in a country with far fewer rights than they should have. It is easier to find parts to antique European swords loosely floating around on eBay than newly made reproduction parts at the moment. 80 bucks ain't much... Hand forged vs stock removal is really a non issue unless you're peculiar about having a sword be made in a traditional manner. Windlass are hand forged I believe at least according to their marketing material I have seen, while many makers choose stock removal. Doesn't have an effect on quality at all. Consider the work and research that goes into the better sword replicas, especially when it comes to Arms and Armor, Albion, or customs and you'll quickly find the price can be justified in most if not all cases. I just like forged all my musha and huawei are forged so thats why I like them. I just feel like a stock removal doesnt take any effort. Plus stock removal is not heat treated.
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 24, 2019 6:55:05 GMT
You're not just paying 80 bucks for the steel, you're paying 80 bucks for the knowledge that went into it, the design, the polish work, and the fact that spare and loose euro fittings are extremely hard to find. Also any katana you get for 80 bucks will either be garbage, an unnoticed auction item or very generous price, or made by wage slaves/people in a country with far fewer rights than they should have. It is easier to find parts to antique European swords loosely floating around on eBay than newly made reproduction parts at the moment. 80 bucks ain't much... Hand forged vs stock removal is really a non issue unless you're peculiar about having a sword be made in a traditional manner. Windlass are hand forged I believe at least according to their marketing material I have seen, while many makers choose stock removal. Doesn't have an effect on quality at all. Consider the work and research that goes into the better sword replicas, especially when it comes to Arms and Armor, Albion, or customs and you'll quickly find the price can be justified in most if not all cases. I just like forged all my musha and huawei are forged so thats why I like them. I just feel like a stock removal doesnt take any effort. How many blades have you made via either method if I may ask? And even if it didn't take any effort (which it does - there's more to sword making than sharpening an iron bar and if that's the impression you have of stock removal I reccomend asking around about it) why would that devalue it? I guarantee you if I handed you two swords, one forged and one not, you would not under any certain circumstances be able to ID which is which.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on May 24, 2019 6:55:44 GMT
Oh, that's very wrong, amigo. Stock removal is absolutely a fantastic method of fabrication and the finished product will be just as good or better than a hand forged one. Also, even hand forged blades go through extensive stock removal processes to finalize the geometry and clean up the lines.
Musashi actually stamps many of their lower cost blades out of sheet steel and grinds them to shape. It's one way to keep costs down.
All quality swords and knives are heat treated. There is no difference in that regard between hand forged and stock removal.
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