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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 21, 2019 22:05:48 GMT
Heros Von Borcke?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 22:37:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 21:17:57 GMT
As a decorative or costume value? Sure.
If you have a good size horse and want to employ a sharp, the reproductions are pretty much ill suited.
You can still find an mle 1854 with a scabbard for less than a grand, so I am a bit confused why one would look at these swords (meant for line charges, not melee) are even considered as "battle ready".
Of course, your mileage may vary.
Cheers GC
I'll dig up my 1854 dragon specs if interested. Some of the pinned threads are a place to start. Again it boils down to;
What are you going to do with it?
Want a nice walloon for $500? It has been posted in the classifieds and sits on ebay month after month.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 21:41:08 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 27, 2019 0:06:52 GMT
The 1840s are good swords.
Also, if you want a big brass 3 bar which handles nice, the French 1822 would also suit your needs though not civil war.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 27, 2019 0:17:24 GMT
I'm thinking these being the real deal will handle better then the Cold Steel version of course. Oh definitely. And on that note, the CS version is simply a sharpened and overpriced windlass, literally. The windlass sabre has cold steel stamped on the tang.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 27, 2019 0:43:05 GMT
Certainly do-able, the 1840 and 60 series stab actually very well. The assymetric tip allows for a broad blade to taper quickly to an acute tip without much loss of cutting ability.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 1:16:43 GMT
Dixie has come down $100 on the steel one. First, if you are looking for a user, know what you are looking at. A lot of the German made 1822 / US 1840 are not ground in such a way to sharpen the back of the foible. Second, don't spend that much on a user. The "Tiffany" will turn out to have a wiggle to the blade in the guard, as the washer is gone. Most, aside from the French made mle 1822 and British patterns of the era have fitment with the blade shoulders seated on the bumper/washer. The lighter pattern US sword will handle better. Of those two, the Clauberg looks to be a more sound item but a bit pricy for what it is The other one one a collector grade but not truly provenanced as either a PDL, or Tiffany "brass pommel cap and guard are unadorned," that doesn't read to me as a steel hilt PDL for Tiffany and should show marks to both, Dealer confusion? It kinda looks like a steel hilt . Both swords have been scraped. Plan on using/sharpening and need a scabbard? Seek out a period m1906, imo. Or, scour not just ebay but dealer's sites for bargains that might need some work and would upset the grownups for molesting a primo sword. Here is an old bookmark list from awhile ago but you'll get the idea. docs.google.com/document/d/10mTa7aEnE1Ch8hNkAPa7EQJq7R5tO1AakugPZDlmzB8/edit?usp=sharingGunderson has a 1906 in good shape and reasonable high street price www.gundersonmilitaria.com/swordad.htmlStewarts has a clean "1840" but I suspect it is much later than the ACW period. The mark on the scabbard escapes me but looks familiar from somewhere. stewartsmilitaryantiques.com/swords-us-us-civil-war-era-1840-pattern-cavalry-sword-import.30181.58.military-antiquesLook for French sabres and you may save some coin. The 1845 infantry and 1821 infantry swords are plentiful and much more handy. Unless one "must have" a cavalry sword for cutting stuff. Take your time, think it through. Cheers GC
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 1:21:17 GMT
The Clauberg is a spear point, the "Tiffany" not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 1:28:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 3:27:27 GMT
Absolutely.
A best buy found in a few minutes
The Stewarts are a class act couple.
I am a repeat offender.
You'll see 1822s on ebay as well, in various conditions.
Cheers GC
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 4:40:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 18:49:18 GMT
Are you going to cut with it? Is the leather getting some nutrient/wax?
What are the blade distal numbers like?
Cheers GC
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