Ifrit
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Post by Ifrit on Mar 13, 2019 7:57:11 GMT
I agree with two handed single edged swords being a bit harder to hurt yourself with. But if you use a saber correctly, you have very little to worry about as well.
Long swords aren't bad either. The long guard hitting your forearm would make it hard for the blade to come back at you
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Post by pgandy on Mar 13, 2019 12:57:23 GMT
I think where most people go wrong is that they underestimate a sword’s potential and get careless, and sometimes downright stupid when it comes to use as in the example of the fellow steadying a melon with one hand while cutting. There are videos of such events on YouTube. Follow common sense when using a sword and you should be OK. One thing that I’ll point out that hasn’t been so far is your leg. It is possible to over swing and clip your leg especially if you have the wrong one forward. Don’t fear a sword but do respect it.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Mar 13, 2019 13:42:55 GMT
The urumi (Indian whip-sword) is quite self-dangerous, but that's pretty obvious. Let's not overstate the effectiveness of an urumi, even when it comes to incidental self-harm. At worst, the wielder will get a little scratched up, but they should be fine with a Snoopy band-aid and a tetanus booster.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Mar 13, 2019 14:07:20 GMT
The urumi is the nunchuks of the sword family - a tricky weapon that is less damaging than most conventional swords when it hits the opponent, and gives the user a high probability of self-injury.
While getting hit by an urumi is likely to cause much less damage than a katana, Viking sword, dao, etc., they're not harmless:
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Post by joeybones on Mar 18, 2019 14:56:50 GMT
I would say whatever sword is hanging on your wall is the safest. Once you take it down all bets are off .
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Post by pgandy on Mar 18, 2019 16:25:12 GMT
I would say whatever sword is hanging on your wall is the safest. Once you take it down all bets are off . Sorry Joey, you lost. I have my Engineering Bolo hanging on the wall by its lanyard and bumped it yesterday while trying to retrieve my shield and that’s all it took. I got the bleeding controlled in short order and is sore as heck at the moment. Actually I didn’t much more than just touch it. That’s why I generally keep all in a scabbard but that is one of the three exceptions and that my change momentarily. Living surrounded by oversized razors is something else. That error has been corrected. The scabbard was exactly where my computer said it was after 6 years. Now if I could find my missing hand protector... Either I forgot to enter it or the computer dropped it. The former most likely. I dare say the safest sword is the one that is sheathed.
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Post by howler on Mar 18, 2019 21:02:17 GMT
I would say whatever sword is hanging on your wall is the safest. Once you take it down all bets are off . Sorry Joey, you lost. I have my Engineering Bolo hanging on the wall by its lanyard and bumped it yesterday while trying to retrieve my shield and that’s all it took. I got the bleeding controlled in short order and is sore as heck at the moment. Actually I didn’t much more than just touch it. That’s why I generally keep all in a scabbard but that is one of the three exceptions and that my change momentarily. Living surrounded by oversized razors is something else. That error has been corrected. The scabbard was exactly where my computer said it was after 6 years. Now if I could find my missing hand protector... Either I forgot to enter it or the computer dropped it. The former most likely. I dare say the safest sword is the one that is sheathed. Due to shape & weight, that Condor Engineer Bolo could remove limbs if high enough on wall and falling at proper angle. Imagine having head removed from shoulders during slumber because of faulty display attachments when machete/guillotine hanging high above the bed. Imagine potential for lost...gulp..."body parts" from bumping the wall during vigorous "non sleeping" activities.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 20, 2019 3:37:03 GMT
Hello everyone. I'm new to the world of sword collecting (haven't even gotten a sword yet) so forgive me if this is a silly question. I've tried looking up the answer to this question and have yet to come up with anything. Now I understand that all swords (with the exception of training, synthetic, and sparing swords) are more or less designed to kill and that they are extremely dangerous if not properly used. However I was wondering if there are sword type's that are more likely than others to cause accidental self injury while test cutting. I've heard the expression "double-edged sword" before, meaning something that can help or harm you. Is there any truth behind this expression? Are single-edged swords actually "safer" to use? What about short swords vs long two handed swords? Are swords designed primarily for thrusting (such as rapier or small sword) less likely to cut you if you swing the wrong way, or do you only increase the chances of accidentally stabbing yourself? Or is there really no functional difference in sword safety and all blades are equally dangerous. I don't plan on doing any test cutting until I try a HEMA class or learn to use a practice sword, but I wanted to get a more experienced opinion on this. What would you consider the sword most and least likely to cause accidental injury? Is there even is one? Suggest you go at this from another perspective. Consider the style of sword that you find most appealing as a start. Then find out what you can about the style of use, clubs you may have access to, youtube and other HEMA sources to read about. Economic commitments for equipment and training electives. Don't forget us on SBG for help. Swordsmanship is a craft. Practice develops the habits and discipline of the craft. You are always aware of your arms and handle them accordingly. ( PS: as to two edged swords. There are many philosophical analogies for dualism, from Two faced gods, to anything that works two ways. Two edged swords go back to the beginnings of military blades. Stylistically, having a double blade made it possible for a swords man to cut into an attack and make a direct back cut with out turning the wrist to place the forward edge in the right direction. More beneficially was the fact that if you tore up your primary cutting edge in battle, you could turn the sword around 180 degrees and have a second edge to work with. That's all lore.) Cheers
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Post by Ifrit on Mar 20, 2019 4:00:18 GMT
Sorry Joey, you lost. I have my Engineering Bolo hanging on the wall by its lanyard and bumped it yesterday while trying to retrieve my shield and that’s all it took. I got the bleeding controlled in short order and is sore as heck at the moment. Actually I didn’t much more than just touch it. That’s why I generally keep all in a scabbard but that is one of the three exceptions and that my change momentarily. Living surrounded by oversized razors is something else. That error has been corrected. The scabbard was exactly where my computer said it was after 6 years. Now if I could find my missing hand protector... Either I forgot to enter it or the computer dropped it. The former most likely. I dare say the safest sword is the one that is sheathed. Due to shape & weight, that Condor Engineer Bolo could remove limbs if high enough on wall and falling at proper angle. Imagine having head removed from shoulders during slumber because of faulty display attachments when machete/guillotine hanging high above the bed. Imagine potential for lost...gulp..."body parts" from bumping the wall during vigorous "non sleeping" activities. Those condors are mean blades. Everyone whose seen my condor kukri machete finds it to be more scary than any of my swords. At first I was perplexed, considering the damage a sword can do, but how heavy those machete can cut and how easily they can be hidden make them forces to be reckoned with.
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Post by stormmaster on Mar 20, 2019 4:52:57 GMT
on the topic of swords that are least likely to cause you harm, a blunt training sword, still could cause blunt force trauma if u are not wearing the proper gear tho, in that case wouldnt full plate body also work for a sharp sword lol
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Post by csills2313 on Mar 21, 2019 19:25:29 GMT
The only sword that I know that is least likely to cause self harm is the one you keep in its sheath!!!
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