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Post by Adrian Jordan on Jan 23, 2019 5:18:43 GMT
Thread sunk to the bottom of the blackest moats. Too personal, and other's not involved in the discussion are being brought into it and their personal business(or what is claimed to be) is getting aired. Challenging someone's advice or opinion is okay so long as it is being done in a non-inflammatory way, but should be confined to relevant matters, such as a thread asking for such advice, or in PM to members you feel are at risk of receiving poor advice or instruction.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 6:24:10 GMT
Delete this reply and then pin the thought at the top of this board, cross referenced to the announcement section. Many of us are quite open books.
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Post by zabazagobo on Jan 23, 2019 6:55:20 GMT
Delete this reply and then pin the thought at the top of this board, cross referenced to the announcement section. Many of us are quite open books. Great idea.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 30, 2019 22:17:24 GMT
Thread sunk to the bottom of the blackest moats. Too personal, and other's not involved in the discussion are being brought into it and their personal business(or what is claimed to be) is getting aired. Challenging someone's advice or opinion is okay so long as it is being done in a non-inflammatory way, but should be confined to relevant matters, such as a thread asking for such advice, or in PM to members you feel are at risk of receiving poor advice or instruction. Agreed, you can give your opinion without having to attack someone else's opinion. Because that's all they are, opinions. These discussions would be really short and not very interesting if we all agreed on everything.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Jan 31, 2019 2:45:53 GMT
Thread sunk to the bottom of the blackest moats. Too personal, and other's not involved in the discussion are being brought into it and their personal business(or what is claimed to be) is getting aired. Challenging someone's advice or opinion is okay so long as it is being done in a non-inflammatory way, but should be confined to relevant matters, such as a thread asking for such advice, or in PM to members you feel are at risk of receiving poor advice or instruction. to be blunt, there are some members of the group who have propped themselves up to be "masters" when it comes to information. Your suggestion to PM members at risk of receiving poor advice/instruction from some other members honestly would take a very long time and be ineffective, since most members (myself included) don't have the time or energy to devote to PMing as many people as possible. Don't get me wrong: there are some incredibly knowledgeable people in this group (hell, I've gotten a TON of useful information from this group for many years BEFORE I became an M&V, including how to do modifications, etc.), but at the same time, there are some members that pretend to be knowledgeable, but really aren't. That's where the danger lies. Unfortunately, there is no sure fire way to warn people of the "fake knowledge member(s)" without calling the fakes out, which runs afoul of the rules here. I'll send you a PM about a possible solution, but not a surefire way.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Jan 31, 2019 3:27:34 GMT
Here's a possible solution for finding out information about people in the sword community: I (along with 2 other admins) run a (small but growing) FB page dedicated to the feedback for community members. It's a Closed Group, which means you need to ask to join. The page is NOT affiliated with SBG or any other forum, and is meant as an independent (and unbiased) place to look for and post feedback on members of the sword community. Please make sure to read the PINNED POST before posting anything on the page. Sword Community Feedback Page
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Post by Verity on Jan 31, 2019 3:39:05 GMT
I totally missed something. Probably glad I did. 😂
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Post by zabazagobo on Jan 31, 2019 9:55:36 GMT
I totally missed something. Probably glad I did. 😂 Yup. Bad juju.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 31, 2019 14:03:22 GMT
Unfortunately we live in a time when lies have become more commonplace than the truth. I saw a post that someone put up that I knew wasn't true so I found the actual interview and posted it. She said, " I knew it wasn't true but I wanted to post it anyways ". On the other hand there's so much fake information out there that the internet has become very unreliable. Do a search for images of say Migration era swords and you will find pictures of other swords in there too. There's an internet news called World News Daily Report that fake stories is all they report. One story they made up was about a Viking ship being found in the Mississippi River which I mistakenly reposted believing it was real. Maybe just hoping it was real but after searching for more information on it I found out it was fake. So sometimes we have to give someone the benefit of the doubt that they might actually think what they're saying is true. No reason to attack them just ask them for their source of information. If they tell you World News Daily Report tell them to find another source but in a polite way.
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Post by csills2313 on Jan 31, 2019 16:09:44 GMT
Thread sunk to the bottom of the blackest moats. Too personal, and other's not involved in the discussion are being brought into it and their personal business(or what is claimed to be) is getting aired. Challenging someone's advice or opinion is okay so long as it is being done in a non-inflammatory way, but should be confined to relevant matters, such as a thread asking for such advice, or in PM to members you feel are at risk of receiving poor advice or instruction. I must have missed this thread. I do not recall seeing anything inflammatory posted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 18:18:27 GMT
I would like to add that I believe we ought to take the Socratic approach to these discussions and assume we know nothing, or at least very little about edged weapons, armor and the like. Having said that, I am always impressed by the level and depth of knowledge of some of our forum members, and I frequently defer to their expertise, although sometimes I do not. I enjoy a heated debate just as much as everyone else does, but it cannot devolve to personal attacks and petty behavior. I seem to recall the usual YouTube suspects (Matt Easton and others) vociferously warning their viewers against misinformation about the martial use of the Russian shashka being circulated in another YouTube video because they believed it was not only false, but was advocating for techniques that were extremely dangerous. Coming down hard on something concerning safety is perfectly righteous in my view, but issuing a diatribe against ignorance, misinformation, historical inaccuracies, anachronism and different opinions is unnecessary.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 19:13:08 GMT
Unfortunately we live in a time when lies have become more commonplace than the truth. I saw a post that someone put up that I knew wasn't true so I found the actual interview and posted it. She said, " I knew it wasn't true but I wanted to post it anyways ". On the other hand there's so much fake information out there that the internet has become very unreliable. Do a search for images of say Migration era swords and you will find pictures of other swords in there too. There's an internet news called World News Daily Report that fake stories is all they report. One story they made up was about a Viking ship being found in the Mississippi River which I mistakenly reposted believing it was real. Maybe just hoping it was real but after searching for more information on it I found out it was fake. So sometimes we have to give someone the benefit of the doubt that they might actually think what they're saying is true. No reason to attack them just ask them for their source of information. If they tell you World News Daily Report tell them to find another source but in a polite way. This anecdote actually has nothing to do with the individual referenced here. It was not regarding fake news information, or poor technique. It was all about personal character and those that know, know. Those that are curious will probably always be curious until looking at an individual's history after reading something doubtful. IMO. Adrian's notice should be pinned, cross posted liberally and everything following that deleted, including this. Whatever I'm game. Cheers Glen Cleeton
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Feb 4, 2019 15:49:57 GMT
Edelweiss you show me one thread here that stays totally on subject. On my Irish Ring Sword thread you managed to get your coffee mug into the discussion how was that related. Guess maybe it's okay for some to do but not for others.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 17:06:35 GMT
Edelweiss you show me one thread here that stays totally on subject. On my Irish Ring Sword thread you managed to get your coffee mug into the discussion how was that related. Guess maybe it's okay for some to do but not for others. It seems like any response supporting your views might disturb the flow of your id. sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/56205/irish-ring-sword
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