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Post by wlewisiii on Dec 1, 2018 4:40:30 GMT
Been feeling the urge for a western pole arm.
A spear could be a good idea.
I note that Cold Steel has a nice looking English bill hook and their Sergeant's Halberd is interesting as well. Those are simply two that got the itch going. I need to be pointed in a direction and find one that would be a good weapon for back yard cutting as well as running through any exercises that I can find with it.
Your ideas, folks?
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Post by demonskull on Dec 1, 2018 5:10:59 GMT
I'd suggest a spear first. This one* from MRL is pretty decent for the money. The socket continues way up into the spearhead which will cut down drastically on the spear bending. Couple it with this butt cap** and you have a good inexpensive weapon system. * www.museumreplicas.com/euro-spearhead**https://www.museumreplicas.com/round-ended-butt-cap
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Dec 1, 2018 7:17:33 GMT
Most CS halberds or spears look well from one side on the pictures but I don't like the other "snow shovel" side. I don't know how many or which of them have it but on pictures I see only one side usually.
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Post by leviathansteak on Dec 1, 2018 8:54:35 GMT
You like spears and cutting? How bout a glaive?
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Post by howler on Dec 1, 2018 20:19:57 GMT
Most CS halberds or spears look well from one side on the pictures but I don't like the other "snow shovel" side. I don't know how many or which of them have it but on pictures I see only one side usually. The CS Assegai and Boar spear are the ones that have that trait. Minus the aesthetics, it does give them a sharper and thinner profile. The Assegai long and short shaft spears may well be, economically, the best price point (we are talking in the 30ish $ range here ...and they come with an excellent kydex sheath) defensive option for bladed weapons in the world.
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Post by howler on Dec 1, 2018 20:31:18 GMT
Been feeling the urge for a western pole arm. A spear could be a good idea. I note that Cold Steel has a nice looking English bill hook and their Sergeant's Halberd is interesting as well. Those are simply two that got the itch going. I need to be pointed in a direction and find one that would be a good weapon for back yard cutting as well as running through any exercises that I can find with it. Your ideas, folks? I have both, and the Bill Hook is more along the lines of a traditional pole arm than the Halberd, as it's near the regular size & weight, while the Sergeant's is lighter, with a thinner shaft.
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Post by wlewisiii on Dec 1, 2018 20:37:27 GMT
Thanks everyone.
I like the idea of the point and end cap. How long a shaft would people suggest if I go that way?
Howler, did you feel the CS Bill was worth the money then? I like the look of it because it seemed a very traditional combat orientted piece. The Sergeant's is close to the ones used in the AWR to keep the troops on line - a badge of office instead of the later three chevrons.
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Post by demonskull on Dec 1, 2018 20:44:09 GMT
I like the idea of the point and end cap. How long a shaft would people suggest if I go that way? I'd suggest a 7'- 8' shaft, coupled with the spear head and butt cap you're talking 8-9 1/2'. A decent distance, not too long and not too short.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Dec 1, 2018 20:58:39 GMT
I like the idea of the point and end cap. How long a shaft would people suggest if I go that way? I'd suggest a 7'- 8' shaft, coupled with the spear head and butt cap you're talking 8-9 1/2'. A decent distance, not too long and not too short. I actually think 8' is a bit unwieldy for a first spear (unless the wielder is very tall). I would recommend a 6' pole stave.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Dec 1, 2018 21:15:08 GMT
Or even shorter. If you're not worried about forming a line against horsemen, a 6' overall spear with a broad cutting head is a joy to wield and makes a better impromptu hiking stick. Also more throwable.
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Post by howler on Dec 1, 2018 21:24:51 GMT
Thanks everyone. I like the idea of the point and end cap. How long a shaft would people suggest if I go that way? Howler, did you feel the CS Bill was worth the money then? I like the look of it because it seemed a very traditional combat orientted piece. The Sergeant's is close to the ones used in the AWR to keep the troops on line - a badge of office instead of the later three chevrons. Oh God yes its worth the under the 90 or so bones it would cost to pick it up, and I think it is the best of the CS polearm line. You will play with sandpaper while getting the shaft to fit the socket. People have said that peening is better than screws for the head/shaft assembly, and I haven't done so yet.
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Post by howler on Dec 1, 2018 21:32:26 GMT
Or even shorter. If you're not worried about forming a line against horsemen, a 6' overall spear with a broad cutting head is a joy to wield and makes a better impromptu hiking stick. Also more throwable. Yeah, but you GOTTA form that line against those horsemen...I heard it's the new rage in 21st century home & personal defense.
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Been feeling the urge for a western pole arm. A spear could be a good idea. I note that Cold Steel has a nice looking English bill hook and their Sergeant's Halberd is interesting as well. Those are simply two that got the itch going. I need to be pointed in a direction and find one that would be a good weapon for back yard cutting as well as running through any exercises that I can find with it. Your ideas, folks? I have both, and the Bill Hook is more along the lines of a traditional pole arm than the Halberd, as it's near the regular size & weight, while the Sergeant's is lighter, with a thinner shaft. Pictures, or it never happened.
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Post by demonskull on Dec 2, 2018 0:42:48 GMT
Or even shorter. If you're not worried about forming a line against horsemen, a 6' overall spear with a broad cutting head is a joy to wield and makes a better impromptu hiking stick. Also more throwable. Yeah, but you GOTTA form that line against those horsemen...I heard it's the new rage in 21st century home & personal defense. I just made the doorways smaller. They bottleneck and it's easy pickings.
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Post by howler on Dec 2, 2018 2:24:38 GMT
It sure does make that sergeant's quick, as it's almost broom handle thick.
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Post by markus313 on Dec 2, 2018 16:29:28 GMT
One thing I like about the CS Sergeant’s Halberd over the CS Swiss (no experience with the Bill) is that its tip section is much more flexible and thus less prone to bending on heavy compact. My CS Swiss' tip bent very badly during exercise. The Sergeant`s always comes back to shape (still penetrates well on softer targets). It needs an oval haft, though (to fit the shaft properly, one needs to do a lot of shaping and slotting anyways, so not much of an issue to get a thicker pole and trim it accordingly).
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Post by howler on Dec 2, 2018 19:43:52 GMT
One thing I like about the CS Sergeant’s Halberd over the CS Swiss (no experience with the Bill) is that its tip section is much more flexible and thus less prone to bending on heavy compact. My CS Swiss' tip bent very badly during exercise. The Sergeant`s always comes back to shape (still penetrates well on softer targets). It needs an oval haft, though (to fit the shaft properly, one needs to do a lot of shaping and slotting anyways, so not much of an issue to get a thicker pole and trim it accordingly). My thoughts on the Swiss (never handled it) was that the far greater head weight would make it more like a large two handed axe (not necessarily a bad thing). Good to hear Sergeant's has some durability. Without Langents, I always thought it needed additional support in the socket area (paracord, wrappings, whatever).
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Post by pgandy on Dec 2, 2018 20:05:56 GMT
Most CS halberds or spears look well from one side on the pictures but I don't like the other "snow shovel" side. I don't know how many or which of them have it but on pictures I see only one side usually. Much of that raw look on CS Assegai spear can be hidden simply by spraying with matte black paint. That thin metal makes it easy to slice or penetrate through whatever. For functionality I don’t think it can beat. Plus you get a sheath that will be needed, those sharp edges will get you. The backside of a painted CS Assegai. Frontside.
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