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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 14, 2018 20:10:12 GMT
Looks like The Last Kingdom has been picked up for a third season. Only Uhtred has a new hairdo, Ragnar of Vikings style. Hopefully he'll get a better sword to go with the new hair style.
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Post by Cosmoline on Nov 14, 2018 20:46:54 GMT
I've just never felt much from this series. I tried to get into it, but it falls flat. The details are all wrong of course, but I overlook those in "Vikings" because the acting there is so compelling (or at least it was in the first few seasons).
Still I'm happy it's getting some success since it creates opportunities for better shows by keeping the market going. I'd still really like to see one about the Normans.
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 14, 2018 22:03:55 GMT
It was a fun show but also not a remarkable one
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Post by WVfishguy on Nov 20, 2018 2:09:38 GMT
It was a fun show but also not a remarkable one I feel the same. Could have been a lot better.
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Post by Lord Cobol on Nov 21, 2018 5:35:33 GMT
I thought season 1 was excellent, season 2 fell flat. I've enjoyed the books.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Nov 21, 2018 7:01:10 GMT
It is fun watching Uhtred be a self-serving hothead while still being brave, skilled, and usually clever. It is a little jarring how fast he goes through families. It's fun watching Alfred. The development of most other characters is poor or forgotten. The battle scenes are generally strategically more compelling than in Vikings but there are silly costume/weapon choices (looking at uhtred).
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Post by Jordan Williams on Nov 21, 2018 8:16:22 GMT
Meh, don't want to watch it now. I despise having main characters that are self serving, barely got through the series "Sons of Liberty" (WITH THE UBER ACCURATE BRITISH NINJA MARINES AND NINJA PAUL REVERE WITH HIS SUPER THROWING HATCHET AND MASSIVELY WIMPY HANCOCK AND HADIK SABRE AND FRENCH NAPOLEONIC BRIQUETS) with it's awful representation of the eponimous Adams.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 24, 2018 16:26:51 GMT
I really liked the first season but the second season was a little boring. Like they just lost steam especially the slave ship moments. It was like it was just a way to kill off an old friend and discover a new one. Plus Uhtred found out he isn't all that badass. I can say one thing, if I were Uhtred I would have my sword in King Alfred heart by now. He saves the kingdom at least twice, saves the king, his son and his daughter's lives and never once tried to hump the kings wife and Alfred still treats him like dog poop on the bottom of his boot. Yep, the kings heart on the old barbecue. I'm hoping season three will be an improvement over season two. The trailer looks promising.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 27, 2018 16:17:46 GMT
Okay, just watched season one and two over again and have to say I still like it better than Vikings beyond season two where Ragnar totally freaked out. As far as Uhtred being " self-serving " how would we handle having our parents and brother killed at age 12. Have your own uncle steal what would have been you lands and trying to kill you. Then have your adopted parents killed and again losing your family and home. Have your wife leave you because of your non Christian ways and your son die. Then loss your new love by beheading. Then have another king whos life you just saved sell you into slavery. On top of all that have King Alfred who is constantly treating you like garbage even though you constantly serve him.
Lets also remember when Uhtred dug up Ragnar's treasure which he could have kept for himself but gave it to young Ragnar who he felt it rightfully belonged to. All the peoples lives he saved at the risk of his own a lot of which he had nothing to gain from.
So how would we have handled all of that ?
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Post by Jordan Williams on Nov 27, 2018 17:11:43 GMT
Okay, just watched season one and two over again and have to say I still like it better than Vikings beyond season two where Ragnar totally freaked out. As far as Uhtred being " self-serving " how would we handle having our parents and brother killed at age 12. Have your own uncle steal what would have been you lands and trying to kill you. Then have your adopted parents killed and again losing your family and home. Have your wife leave you because of your non Christian ways and your son die. Then loss your new love by beheading. Then have another king whos life you just saved sell you into slavery. On top of all that have King Alfred who is constantly treating you like garbage even though you constantly serve him. Lets also remember when Uhtred dug up Ragnar's treasure which he could have kept for himself but gave it to young Ragnar who he felt it rightfully belonged to. All the peoples lives he saved at the risk of his own a lot of which he had nothing to gain from. So how would we have handled all of that ? See, You say you don't get upset but then you go on these random rants. Self serving is still self serving, and I still find the trait to be utterly abhorrent, and it makes me completely lose interest in a main character who is supposed to be the good guy. You don't have to share my opinion, it's just my opinion. But it isnt going to change because Mr. Viking guy had a rough start.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 27, 2018 17:27:05 GMT
What is your problem Jordan, where do you see any " random rants " here ? It was my opinion why he may be the way he is. It wasn't directed at just you, if you check you'll see you wasn't the only one here that said he was " self-serving ". Just incase you didn't notice this was my post so if I want to comment on it I will. If it rubs you the wrong way that I don't agree with you on everything than that's something you have to work on. And I'm still not upset. On that note I now have to go out and shovel snow, now that might get me upset.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Nov 27, 2018 18:38:51 GMT
What is your problem Jordan, where do you see any " random rants " here ? It was my opinion why he may be the way he is. It wasn't directed at just you, if you check you'll see you wasn't the only one here that said he was " self-serving ". Just incase you didn't notice this was my post so if I want to comment on it I will. If it rubs you the wrong way that I don't agree with you on everything than that's something you have to work on. And I'm still not upset. On that note I now have to go out and shovel snow, now that might get me upset. Snow would make me upset as well. Random wasn't the right word, my apologies for that. Rant used because it's a big long paragraph with no breaks. I don't care if you don't agree with me Gunnar, and in fact I even say that. I say this in my comment, "this is my opinion, you don't have to agree with it". It is a discussion forum. Things are meant to be discussed. In so far as your comment not being a reply to mine, I'm not going to argue against that but it was basically right under mine. So I hope you'll excuse that mistake, as your comment was about the topic my comment was on (and not just about the show in general, but on the topic of the protagonist being self serving) so I naturally assumed that the comment was at least in some part a reply to me. Maybe to avoid any future confusion like this you can quote who want to specifically reply to. I don't have a problem with you at all Gunnar, I just enjoy discussion, and have opinions on things that are discussed, and like most people like to share these opinions and argue on them.
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Post by Curtis_Louis on Nov 27, 2018 19:32:48 GMT
Jordan, I think you should go over to Gunnar's house and help him shovel snow.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Nov 27, 2018 19:59:17 GMT
Would be better than all this darn rain, at least snow you can throw at your girlfriend!
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 27, 2018 21:05:09 GMT
All is good Jordan, I didn't even notice that I put that comment right under your comment. I can see where you might think it was directed at you. It was really directed at Redmichael but don't tell him I said that. He might still have that big Dane axe. You're to late on the snow, all done. All 90 feet of my driveway plus parking area. Rebuild kit for the carburetor on my snow thrower is on the way so hopefully no more by hand. Corn in your gas is not healthy for small engines.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Nov 27, 2018 21:51:07 GMT
Well, he is self-serving. His motivation for going to Wessex is to get rich and powerful. Later in season one he goes to rob and kill welshmen who have done nothing to him. That said, he is also generally honorable and sympathetic as a protagonist. He helps his friends. This is interspersed with semprini moments like disowning his infant son for being baptized, even though he himself was baptized as a child. All of this makes him interesting to watch.
Season three develops him further.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 27, 2018 22:25:30 GMT
Well I never tried to put him up for sainthood. Just trying to point out some reasons why he is the way he is. Do not recall him disowning his son. He told his wife he was leaving to try to raise money to pay off her debts. He returned home after saving Alfred and his son only to find his own son had died. I'll have to go back and re-watch that episode again to double check myself.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Nov 27, 2018 23:01:25 GMT
He probably wouldn't have stuck with the disowning but he made multiple statements to the effect that if his son was baptized, he would no longer be his son. He then goes raiding, comes back with the sexy sorceress, and ignores his still-living son when he goes to tell his first wife that her debt is settled. Then later his son dies and he is sad.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 27, 2018 23:10:04 GMT
Well there you go, nothing can mess up a heathens mind like a sexy sorceress. And I know because I'm talking from personal experience.
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Post by bebut on Nov 28, 2018 2:59:36 GMT
Sorry, we don't do that snow stuff in Central America! But at least we can watch Lindybeigh talk about Netflix. He was amused by the many historical boo boos.
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