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Post by xtremetrainer on Nov 14, 2018 19:07:48 GMT
From what I know many of the "fantasy swords" that you see in the movies or in shows, they look great on screen but as real swords they're complete junk. Im wondering if there are any fantasy swords that would function well as real weapons.
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Post by LeMal on Nov 14, 2018 19:13:50 GMT
Do you mean from movies or from makers?
Either way, while in the minority, there are plenty. Many of the LOTR swords in the former case, something like the Windlass Raptor in the second case, just for quick examples.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 19:32:26 GMT
Sword Buyer's Guide has a sister site Legendary Swords that is dedicated to supplying real, functional fantasy swords designed around an original fantasy world. The site is still in beta, but a number of the swords are available for sale right now. Many of them were designed by members of this forum in a competition last year. (full disclosure, I'm a contributing artist to the site, but I'm not involved in design or production of the swords themselves.) |
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Post by leviathansteak on Nov 15, 2018 0:48:58 GMT
Do you mean designs or actual swords that are in production?
For designs, most of the lotr ones are absolutely reasonable and would work well since theyre obviously based on the general shape and proportion of historical swords
I think most of the swords in the witcher games are fine too for the same reasons.
If you meant actual functional swords you can buy that arent wallhangers... maybe darksword?? - they make some lotr based ones. There arent many functional licensed ones due to legal issues amd all that. You can search on facebook for functional swords based on the witcher games made by kaer morhen forge.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Nov 15, 2018 2:52:09 GMT
It also depends on who makes it. If you are going less expensive production and it looks wildly fantastical with spines and swirls everywhere then don't expect a lot of functionality. There are custom smiths like John Lundemo and Brendan Olszowy who can make a fantastical sword at a higher price point but it'll be top-notch quality.
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Post by xtremetrainer on Nov 15, 2018 3:42:25 GMT
Do you mean designs or actual swords that are in production? Im talking about sword designs. Take for instance the famous Rambo knife that you see in the movies. It was so popular that they made and sold tons of reproductions which they marketed as, "survival knives." As a real knife its complete junk and not something I would want to take in the field. However, it looks really macho on screen so its great for Hollywood. Now, the Rambo knife is a knife not a sword but the point is that something that looks good on screen might suck in real life and so I was wondering if there are any swords that look good on screen but would also work well in real life. The LOTR swords were mentioned so I take it they would function well as real swords. |
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Nov 15, 2018 4:17:17 GMT
Do you mean designs or actual swords that are in production? Im talking about sword designs. Take for instance the famous Rambo knife that you see in the movies. It was so popular that they made and sold tons of reproductions which they marketed as, "survival knives." As a real knife its complete junk and not something I would want to take in the field. However, it looks really macho on screen so its great for Hollywood. Now, the Rambo knife is a knife not a sword but the point is that something that looks good on screen might suck in real life and so I was wondering if there are any swords that look good on screen but would also work well in real life. The LOTR swords were mentioned so I take it they would function well as real swords. I specialise in interpreting screen and fantasy swords into fully functional swords that work as well as possible given respect to the study of historic sword design. Remember every sword from history was fantasy when it was first made. You can see my portfolios here: www.fableblades.com/Swords.html |
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Post by xtremetrainer on Nov 15, 2018 14:50:48 GMT
Im talking about sword designs. Take for instance the famous Rambo knife that you see in the movies. It was so popular that they made and sold tons of reproductions which they marketed as, "survival knives." As a real knife its complete junk and not something I would want to take in the field. However, it looks really macho on screen so its great for Hollywood. Now, the Rambo knife is a knife not a sword but the point is that something that looks good on screen might suck in real life and so I was wondering if there are any swords that look good on screen but would also work well in real life. The LOTR swords were mentioned so I take it they would function well as real swords. I specialise in interpreting screen and fantasy swords into fully functional swords that work as well as possible given respect to the study of historic sword design. Remember every sword from history was fantasy when it was first made. You can see my portfolios here: www.fableblades.com/Swords.htmlWow! It looks like you do really awesome work. You must be familiar with man-at-arms who also makes fantasy sword reproductions, just about every sword from movies and cartoons there is. He even makes a Voltron sword that has fire coming out of the blade. He rigged it up to do that somehow by making the blade so that it could project fuel which he would ignite. |
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Post by Dalin Caulder on Nov 15, 2018 16:56:34 GMT
In my experience fantasy blades are usually just that "a fantasy". What you see on screen is made to look good on screen....that is it. They aren't really usable, usually made of tinfoil (read cheap shiny metal), and were never intended for practical use. They are intended to be wall hangers...put up to look pretty and gawk at the cool collection said movie fan has of movie weapons.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 15, 2018 17:56:49 GMT
Many fantasy swords are bs, some work as a sword, some designs could work if they would be made well, usually too heavy.
My Windlass Raptor, Hanwei Sentinel, Gen2 Ranger and ZT Apokatana are real swords.
I don't like squiggles on guard or blade/ricasso but with modern production methods they should be no structural problem.
Most fantasy sword repros are simply too heavy to be good swords.
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Post by wlewisiii on Nov 15, 2018 18:27:58 GMT
I specialise in interpreting screen and fantasy swords into fully functional swords that work as well as possible given respect to the study of historic sword design. Remember every sword from history was fantasy when it was first made. You can see my portfolios here: www.fableblades.com/Swords.htmlSome very nice LOTR interpretations and the first WoT swords that actually look like usable swords. Pity I can't afford to have you make me my own favorite fantasy sword - a M1911 Saber like was going to be produced till Patton's estoc came along. Instead, I'll scratch that itch with eventually getting a Windlass Raptor. |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Nov 16, 2018 3:03:02 GMT
I specialise in interpreting screen and fantasy swords into fully functional swords that work as well as possible given respect to the study of historic sword design. Remember every sword from history was fantasy when it was first made. You can see my portfolios here: www.fableblades.com/Swords.htmlSome very nice LOTR interpretations and the first WoT swords that actually look like usable swords. Pity I can't afford to have you make me my own favorite fantasy sword - a M1911 Saber like was going to be produced till Patton's estoc came along. Instead, I'll scratch that itch with eventually getting a Windlass Raptor. Maybe you could have someone put the hilt of the windlass Patton on a repro sabre blade? This might be a good blade candidate. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=USS142&name=British+19th+Century+Royal+Artillery+Officer%27s+Sword+ |
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Post by wlewisiii on Nov 16, 2018 3:44:38 GMT
Some very nice LOTR interpretations and the first WoT swords that actually look like usable swords. Pity I can't afford to have you make me my own favorite fantasy sword - a M1911 Saber like was going to be produced till Patton's estoc came along. Instead, I'll scratch that itch with eventually getting a Windlass Raptor. Maybe you could have someone put the hilt of the windlass Patton on a repro sabre blade? This might be a good blade candidate. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=USS142&name=British+19th+Century+Royal+Artillery+Officer%27s+Sword+That would be possible. The other thing is that I have read that after the light officer's blade the Cavalry troops asked for a heavier blade and that they went back to the blade on the steel hilted 1906 pattern. If that's the case, I should get another one of Windlass' 1906 for the blade and their Patton for the hilt. Either way would be an interesting blade to exercise with. |
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Post by xtremetrainer on Nov 16, 2018 5:14:14 GMT
How about this?
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Post by MOK on Nov 16, 2018 11:10:08 GMT
It's based on a specific historical sword, the Lindsay "Discerner", so yeah, the basic design at least is quite reasonable.  |
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Post by xtremetrainer on Nov 17, 2018 13:06:09 GMT
Well for the Conan sword, in the movies supposedly they had an aluminum version in addition to the steel version since the steel version was too heavy even for Arnold Schwarzenegger to properly use in some of the scenes.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 19, 2018 16:28:09 GMT
Well for the Conan sword, in the movies supposedly they had an aluminum version in addition to the steel version since the steel version was too heavy even for Arnold Schwarzenegger to properly use in some of the scenes. Yeah but Arnold will never admit to that. A lot has to do with how elaborate the fantasy sword is and how big. For example a Sting sword from Lord of the Ring could be very easily made into a fully practical functional sword if using the right metal and proper techniques in construction. The problem with movie swords is they're going for the shock or WOW factor rather than practical. After all what are three of the most recognized and copied movie swords in the world, the two Conan swords and LOTR Anduril. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 17:07:44 GMT
Gen2/Legacy Arms fantasy swords like the "Flame of Angel", the "Ranger" or the "Skofnung" work OK, though there is always some uncertainty on their tempering/heat treating. Depends on batch/production year i guess, mine hasnt let me down so far. Also there are some really nice Windlass swords, for example the "Fantasy Viking", the "Raptor", the "Black Sword" (uncertain on guard/pommel material here, but nice blade), Zombie Tools are always great stuff to play with, and of course custom stuff from Brother Banzai/Jeff Robinson, John Lundemo and Brendan from Fable Blades. The only high-end production swords i am aware of are some Albion models: Alpha&Omega, Bloodstone and their Conan swords... though the Atlantean is far too heavy regardless from which company it comes. Didnt they have a Beastmaster sword also? BKS has same nice stuff too; dont judge them on the, hmm, yeah, crap they do on Man At Arms. Darksword Armoury has some very nice, beautiful and quite functional designs that would work fine i guess as real swords - but i personally trust them as far as i can throw my car.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 17:10:22 GMT
Well for the Conan sword, in the movies supposedly they had an aluminum version in addition to the steel version since the steel version was too heavy even for Arnold Schwarzenegger to properly use in some of the scenes. Yeah but Arnold will never admit to that. A lot has to do with how elaborate the fantasy sword is and how big. For example a Sting sword from Lord of the Ring could be very easily made into a fully practical functional sword if using the right metal and proper techniques in construction. The problem with movie swords is they're going for the shock or WOW factor rather than practical. After all what are three of the most recognized and copied movie swords in the world, the two Conan swords and LOTR Anduril. Did some cutting recently with my Museum Collection Sting (made from high carbon steel and tempered) - it did just fine! Theyre also said to have good full tangs. But guard and pommel are no steel, so cutting yes, slaying Orks no... pity. |
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 19, 2018 17:26:05 GMT
Just don't hit the Orks with the pommel or guard. If they laugh at your pommel and guard and say " we're going to stick you " just say " not if I stick you first ". |
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