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Post by howler on Nov 4, 2018 19:09:08 GMT
Do Canadian bears get secondhand smoke buzzes and then get the munchies for human treats? Well, now that explains "Smoky" The Bear.
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Post by howler on Nov 4, 2018 19:12:59 GMT
The one and only acquaintance of mine, a relative of my wife, who has first-hand experience in these matters, recommends a shotgun with slugs. He never even mentioned handguns. A half-way decent pump-action shotgun is also cheaper than a .44 magnum or 10mm auto, even though a handgun is handier. There are also mountain lions. A surprising thing about black bear attacks is where they have happened, like in New Jersey. A co-worker where I used to work before retiring had a photo of a black bear on the deck of her parent's home in New Jersey. I couldn't say how dangerous they are but I've seen black bears in the woods on two occasions, although it wasn't the woods behind the house. There have been bears spotted in the county where I live outside Washington, D.C., so I figure it's only a matter of time. I wonder if bears are more skittish and less aggressive when in towns, neighborhoods, and at peoples dwellings vs in the woods when a human bumps into them in their own environment. I do know getting near cubs with a mother around is a big no no.
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Post by bluetrain on Nov 4, 2018 19:36:26 GMT
Good question and I don't know. What I do know is that the way suburban neighborhoods are sometimes laid out, there are lots of woods for wild animals to roam around in. That's the case in the county where I live as well as in some surrounding counties, even in D. C. In fact, one can see on a map that there are lots of so-called flood plains and local parks, many of which are connected, large and dense (thickly wooded, that is) enough to shelter larger animals, mostly deer. It's quite possible for animals to travel quite a distance and never leave the woods, though they certainly do. While I don't know about bear habits near developed areas, it seems obvious that the deer have adapted as best they could to living in close proximity to human dwellings. It would be even better if they learned to look both ways before crossing the street.
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Post by William Swiger on Nov 4, 2018 23:15:41 GMT
Do Canadian bears get secondhand smoke buzzes and then get the munchies for human treats? Well, now that explains "Smoky" The Bear. Stoned bears...….
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Post by bluetrain on Nov 4, 2018 23:51:54 GMT
Some bears have adapted a lot better than most.
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Post by Ouroboros on Nov 5, 2018 2:33:56 GMT
Well, now that explains "Smoky" The Bear. Stoned bears...….
I always carry a .750g 2 paper Jamaican cannon with me in the woods just for such an encounter. Its a well known fact that a .38g single paper wont cut it for cerebral penetration. Unless yer packing 300mg edibles for a body shot attempt on a Canadian buzzed bear, you might as well throw empty bags of chips...now for charging bears? I don't recommend anything less than a 12guage over under double chambered glass bong w a 18mm bowl and double water perks--grapeshot for the lower and a bell or honeycomb perk on top for max dispersal. A nice ice cooled dimpled neck for heavy hitting loads like the Chronic Master Kush at 22%thc or Violator hybrid w heavy cbd content...i don't recommend Duke Nukem or Diablo loads for Grizz, the creep factor takes too long on an animal w a 9 bpm heartrate... 🙄 Ouro
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Post by Curtis_Louis on Nov 5, 2018 3:21:50 GMT
Now I've got the munchies...
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Post by howler on Nov 5, 2018 3:44:28 GMT
I always carry a .750g 2 paper Jamaican cannon with me in the woods just for such an encounter. Its a well known fact that a .38g single paper wont cut it for cerebral penetration. Unless yer packing 300mg edibles for a body shot attempt on a Canadian buzzed bear, you might as well throw empty bags of chips...now for charging bears? I don't recommend anything less than a 12guage over under double chambered glass bong w a 18mm bowl and double water perks--grapeshot for the lower and a bell or honeycomb perk on top for max dispersal. A nice ice cooled dimpled neck for heavy hitting loads like the Chronic Master Kush at 22%thc or Violator hybrid w heavy cbd content...i don't recommend Duke Nukem or Diablo loads for Grizz, the creep factor takes too long on an animal w a 9 bpm heartrate... 🙄 Ouro The goal is to artificially induce bear hibernation through "Couch Lock". Maximum indica body high...brown hairs for the brown bear.
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Post by howler on Nov 5, 2018 3:47:31 GMT
Well, now that explains "Smoky" The Bear. Stoned bears...….
Boo Boo looks particularly jelly stoned.
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Post by solaris on Dec 17, 2018 18:25:13 GMT
You all do know that buying a "bear" gun is just an excuse to go out and spend money on a giant revolver that will probably never get used, rarely get shot and will most likely just get sold 15 times to the next guy who thinks he's going to go out back packing in bear infested country and fight his way in and out. Right? Speaking of which, anyone want to buy a 4" .44 mag? ? J/K, my bear gun is not for sale!
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Post by howler on Dec 17, 2018 19:35:52 GMT
You all do know that buying a "bear" gun is just an excuse to go out and spend money on a giant revolver that will probably never get used, rarely get shot and will most likely just get sold 15 times to the next guy who thinks he's going to go out back packing in bear infested country and fight his way in and out. Right? Speaking of which, anyone want to buy a 4" .44 mag? ? J/K, my bear gun is not for sale! Ah, but the pleasure of fondling while awake and dreaming about when asleep...priceless. In Alaska, that .44 mag would be darn near required in some areas, and you can load down for humans if you want it pulling double duty.
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Post by bluetrain on Dec 17, 2018 20:54:29 GMT
I had a 4" S&W Model 29 about 20 years ago. I had the smaller grips on mine. Not really that unpleasant to shoot in comparison with a .357. Although the recoil was more, the blast was no worse, which is not to say it was 'not bad.' The blast--not the recoil--is most unpleasant in all the magnum handgun calibers. I also had a .41 magnum for a while but, honestly, I couldn't really tell the difference between it and a .44 magnum. For that matter, a .45 Colt has a pretty stiff recoil, also in an S&W N-frame. I've had two Model 27 revolvers, too, as well as two .44 Specials. With a four-inch barrel, these are all still fairly handy revolvers. An L-frame S&W is only slightly handier in my opinion. Although I'd feel comfortable with a .357, I sure don't know if it would be up to the job. It must say something that I don't even have a revolver now. My first choice has been a .38 Super and mine is a Colt. But I don't live in Alaska.
I have read on other forums of people mentioning roving packs of feral dogs and someone even mentioned wild cattle. Those posts have left me wondering where they live.
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Post by solaris on Dec 17, 2018 21:44:28 GMT
Well, I live on the central coast of California. Wine County. I really only have to worry about drunks. Which includes me!
I have seen a fairly large bear while out riding my adventure bike, and Saturday wifey and I saw a pack of wild piggies. Thoughts of bacon were swirling in my head....
I wouldn't really want to shoot a bear anyway and while I am sure I cannot out run one, I am fairly certain my bike will. Besides, this is California, unless you're rich, famous or a large campaign donor to the local Sherriff, good luck getting a carry permit.
All that said, I do love my Redhawk .44. It is the easiest shooting .44 mag I have ever shot, and dead-nuts accurate. Love Ruger revolvers! I am picking up my new Redhawk 2.72" 8-shot on Saturday!!!
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 17, 2018 22:14:17 GMT
If you get killed by a wild cow maybe you deserve to die at that point... lol.
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Post by MOK on Dec 18, 2018 0:14:07 GMT
If you get killed by a wild cow maybe you deserve to die at that point... lol. ...you do know domestic cattle kill a whole lot of people every year, right? Them bovines be massive animals, with hooves significantly harder than your skull and usually nasty pointy bits on one end, too. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180228112528.htm
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 18, 2018 2:47:49 GMT
If you get killed by a wild cow maybe you deserve to die at that point... lol. ...you do know domestic cattle kill a whole lot of people every year, right? Them bovines be massive animals, with hooves significantly harder than your skull and usually nasty pointy bits on one end, too. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180228112528.htmI'm aware of cattle on farms and ranches killing many farmhands and ranchers, I grew up on ranches and have been told many tales of people having their hands broken or ears ripped off by accidents. I would like to know how many of those deaths are from cattle being aggressive though, as while it's very easy to get crushed by stampeded cattle or in a chute, it's comparatively harder to not get away from a cow by running up a fence from my experience. Also, most cattle get dehorned at least on competent operations. It's a health hazard for all involved, cattle and horses included.
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Post by Cosmoline on Dec 19, 2018 0:12:30 GMT
Because this is one of our favorite trails: www.adn.com/alaska-news/wildlife/2018/06/20/anchorage-police-responding-to-bear-mauling-in-eagle-river/I know people who've been mauled. A brown bear can literally pick you up by your head and throw you through the air. The salmon fed ones can get a lot bigger than 500 lbs, but even at 300 they can kill you pretty easily. That's true, sometimes people have gotten lucky. OTOH sometimes bear have survived multiple shots from high powered hunting rifles and mauled people. Gene Moe crippled a sow with his hunting knife. But most of the time, it takes a big firearm to bring one down. I try not to go out into the woods expecting to be lucky enough to explode a 9x19 into a bear's shoulder joint. Heck, there are many reliable accounts of thwacks to the nose sending bear running. But I don't think it's a good idea to rely on a stick or hunting knife. I do agree, though, that handguns in general are a bad idea. By the time you get one big enough to be reasonably reliable they are too heavy and carry like a brick. I MUCH prefer a 12 gauge with high octane slugs. It carries far lighter than a super-magnum handgun, aims faster and hits harder. Plus it's easy to find them for $300 or so. I prefer the Mossbergs because the safety is easier to deal with.
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Post by Cosmoline on Dec 19, 2018 0:15:24 GMT
If you're worried about bears, you want a sporting autorifle, in 308 or 30-06, with nosler Partition softpoints. Something that you can get 4-5 hits per second, with real power, accuracy and range. If a bear's within 100m of me and doesn't leave when I make myself obvious, I install the earplugs, (spring band around my neck) aim carefully at his head and start shooting. Anything less is half assed. Some folks have used those, but not many. They tend to be pretty heavy and have complex workings that are a PINA to clean out. My Mossy 500 was half full of silt by the end of one summer's fishing, but still worked fine. You also can't expect much warning if you're charged. You usually hear them first in the underbrush, then they're right there in front of you (or on you). One fellow figured he'd go with an AK-74 but ended up having to empty the mag into a brown bear to kill it. Lots of rounds flying around didn't make the other hikers too happy.
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Post by howler on Dec 19, 2018 1:05:30 GMT
If you're worried about bears, you want a sporting autorifle, in 308 or 30-06, with nosler Partition softpoints. Something that you can get 4-5 hits per second, with real power, accuracy and range. If a bear's within 100m of me and doesn't leave when I make myself obvious, I install the earplugs, (spring band around my neck) aim carefully at his head and start shooting. Anything less is half assed. Some folks have used those, but not many. They tend to be pretty heavy and have complex workings that are a PINA to clean out. My Mossy 500 was half full of silt by the end of one summer's fishing, but still worked fine. You also can't expect much warning if you're charged. You usually hear them first in the underbrush, then they're right there in front of you (or on you). One fellow figured he'd go with an AK-74 but ended up having to empty the mag into a brown bear to kill it. Lots of rounds flying around didn't make the other hikers too happy. Shotgun is a superior choice, as it's reliability, versatility and cost effectiveness, more than any other armament, settled the West.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Dec 19, 2018 3:45:10 GMT
Bah, you're all missing the best way. Bacon... So ya get a vegan dog...tie bacon to it on some para cord, and teach it to run from bears. You'd be totally safe. Bear wants bacon to go with the edible to achieve couch lock...
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