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Post by tonystark on Oct 15, 2018 23:48:37 GMT
Wow a Ruger #1 huh, that’s a good rifle I’d like to get my hands on someday.
Incredibly (being the UK) I was lusting after a Ruger #1 45-70 that's for sale on my outdoors forum. Not that I can have it (no ticket) and not that it's much use to you, it being over here, but it's worth a look just for the beautiful pictures:
I will gladly drool all over swords and firearms, even if they are not accessible to me! It is our way as men, is it not? 😉
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Post by Croccifixio on Oct 16, 2018 2:26:50 GMT
If it’s any consolation I’m also going through the 3-4hrs of sleep per night myself, and after about a month I’m reeeeally starting to feel.....frazzled, for lack of a better term. As for the migraines that feel like a railroad spike has been driven through your temples, yeah I feel your (literal) pain with that as well! I hope you have a vacation planned soon so that you can at least recharge your batteries a bit?! I know with the new firm things may not simmer down for a while, but going to the range, which I’m literally about to do after I post this comment, has become what I like to call “Cognitive Ballistic Therapy.” It’s really very cathartic, as I know you already know 😉 While it kinda sucks that you have a 5 gun limit, it really does help prevent you from spending 85% of your money on firearms, you know to put a positive spin on things. Are the Sig P938’s super expensive there? The price on the Kimber single stack 9’s has been slowly decreasing, and I’ve heard pretty good things about them. Not to sound like a broken record, but you should check out the Ruger LCR in .327mag. You can also shoot .32acp out of it too, which being a Paul Harrell fan you know he also occasionally carries it too! Okay off to assassinate all the 2-liter milk jugs I’ve been saving with my S&W 629 and the Rock Island 10mm blaster! 😈How’s your Mother doing by the way? Better I hope?? I may have already asked you this before, so if I have then sorry! But what about the Mossberg Shockwave? It’s classified as a “firearm” and not a shotgun. Is that an option for you? I think Chiappa made their own version, but for $100 less. Thanks for asking. My mom's doing well. Healthier than she's ever been these past 8 years. She plans to lead a people's movement for national transformation though (not running for the Senate, as most people expected of her), so she'll start everything from scratch. Can't say I'm enthusiastic about that, but if anyone can get things done, it's her. Yeah. The bad thing about the lack of sleep is how it slowly makes you more careless. Just the other day, I kept dropping things I normally wouldn't: my phone, a water jug, my students' exam booklets. I feel less and less coordinated. I've also had a month-long cold that I'm 100% sure is not getting better because of said lack of sleep. I've been to the range maybe once these past 2 months, and I intend to go back to doing weekly sessions by November. It's definitely cathartic. The best part is that the indoor range is near a massage place, so it's a perfect sequence of shooting a few hundred rounds, and cleaning up and relaxing with a massage. The problem is the range near me closes early at 6pm, and in the firm we usually finish work (or leave it for tomorrow) at around 9pm. Funny you should say that about the Sig. The Sig p938 was the first pistol I ever wanted, until I inquired and found out it was 90,000 pesos (basically $1700 with the registration fees). Pretty wild price point. Kimber Micro 9s are a bit lower at 65,000 or $1200 without registration. I never felt comfortable paying that much for a single stack 9 to be honest. Glock 43s are the cheapest at around $800. I really like the Ruger LCR 327. But I've checked, and there's not a single gun store near me that sells the ammo. Even 32 ACP is expensive and hard to find. And yep, the 5 gun limit definitely helps keep my spending in check. Oh and Mossberg shockwaves are pretty rare and get sold out quickly. Pity, really, since I think they make the ideal car gun. Bah, I'm off to go back to work again. Wish I could talk about guns all day. Wish I lived in a gun-friendly US state. Wish I got paid US-lawyer rates. But wishes are wishes, and work beckons. :)
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Post by tonystark on Oct 16, 2018 3:57:13 GMT
Your mother sounds a lot like my own, though in an “intense and unstoppable inner strength” way and less of the law degree/political background. LOL. I keep picturing future children in the Philippines reading in their history books at school about how your mother led the people to give Duterte the big middle finger and get him not only ousted from Office, but prosecuted and imprisoned for his crimes against the very people he oppressed! Yeah sorry, I was always told growing up that I had a bit of an overactive imagination. I can’t help it, I’m a dreamer!
That wicked sucks, being sick on top of feeling exhausted!! The one DEFINITELY doesn’t help the other. I know this is probably a redundant question, but is there any way you can either take off a Monday and get yourself a 3-day weekend of nothing but sleep and migraine relief, or take off a Friday and just repeat all the other stuff I just said?? The thing that worries the hell out of me when myself or someone else is sick and physically exhausted, is pneumonia! You absolutely have got to get some rest so that your immune system can at least have a fighting chance. I was always jealous of a friend of mine who lived in Madrid, cause he would always rub in the fact that he could siesta for 30 mins everyday at work and I couldn’t. It would be nice if you could lock your office door, turn off the lights, and pass out for an hour instead of taking a lunch break!
I wasn’t going to say it, but here goes that overactive imagination again! I was going to say you should open a Gun Range/Massage Parlor called “Rub & Shoot” but for obvious (and hysterical) reasons I think the police would shut you down as soon as the doors opened 🤣 Oh God, I’m so damn tired it’s affecting my sense of humor! I realized today that as relaxing as shooting can be, that putting up objects to shoot into a million pieces (i.e. water bottles, coffee cups....etc) can just be so much fun!! I really don’t have many opportunities to do it often, but it is really enjoyable. Anywho, I was going to ask you if your range had weekend hours, but I realized that’s probably when you spend time with the wife and kiddos. Well regardless, when you are able to get back to going once a week, that’ll be awesome for you! Do you know, everytime I see a S&W Shield (.45) for $375-$400 I wish I could just buy it and Fedex it to you inside of a hollowed out book or something. Reason being, when you tell how much the prices are inflated, due to import/export B.S, I literally cringe. It’s not freakin’ fair that gun lovers in other countries have to jump through flaming hoops just to own a single firearm. A lot of Americans take for granted simple freedoms and rights that they know little-to-nothing about, but I empathize and I empathize hard for what you have to go through for a hobby that you really, really enjoy!!
How much are S&W guns for you again? Oh before I forget, have you seen the new Arex striker-fired handgun coming out soon? It’s called the Delta and it looks pretty awesome, but the best part (other than a bunch of great features) is the price. I think it’s starting out around $400, and that’s not even the MSRP! That really bites that you can’t get .327 or .32 acp ammo, but why not just get an LCR in 9mm? I KNOW you saw Paul’s video this week, and despite his love of the S&W Airweight, which by the way is why I was asking about S&W’s prices, even he couldn’t say that 9mm out of a snub nose revolver isn’t better than .38 special. Now, if they made a revolver that shot .38 Super that would be a different story altogether! Do any of the gun stores you go to allow you to reserve stuff? Because if they did then I would say reserve yourself one of the Shockwaves, or even the Remington Tac-14’s if you had the option to. The Shockwave holds 5+1 and I haven’t found an application it didn’t work for (besides Concealed Carry of course lol). There’s nothing wrong with wishes either! 😉
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Post by bluetrain on Oct 16, 2018 11:59:37 GMT
I did see advertised some presumably recently imported No.4 Lee-Enfield's but the price was on the high side. But Ruger No. 1's are stratospheric in price, though some other single-shot rifles, both imported and domestic, are even higher. Ruger rifles are beautifully made and all I have seen had really nice wood. I think some were made in .303 British, all of which were probably sold in Canada. If nothing else, Ruger tries to have something for everyone, at least for a while.
I think Ruger made some DA revolvers in 9mm. Skeeter Skelton had one. I even saw one, either a service six or a speed six, chambered in .38 S&W (.38/200). Some old army manuals refer to that as the ".38 Regular."
Hard to believe someone can't find .32 ACP. I thought that was available all over. Guess not. Don't know if there was ever a revolver chambered in .38 Super but in a revolver, a .357 magnum is more versatile. There have been some in 10mm.
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Post by Croccifixio on Oct 17, 2018 4:43:35 GMT
Your mother sounds a lot like my own, though in an “intense and unstoppable inner strength” way and less of the law degree/political background. LOL. I keep picturing future children in the Philippines reading in their history books at school about how your mother led the people to give Duterte the big middle finger and get him not only ousted from Office, but prosecuted and imprisoned for his crimes against the very people he oppressed! Yeah sorry, I was always told growing up that I had a bit of an overactive imagination. I can’t help it, I’m a dreamer! Hahaha, maybe one day! I think Duterte will die from health issues before he gets ousted (he's maintaining popularity despite everything that's happening), but I also think that he woke up the educated youth, in that they need to be able to team up with the less privileged, help educate them on important national issues like economics, cronyism, corruption, sovereignty, and governance, and be a real political force with both numbers and intelligence. I always do this, actually. Sometimes I get in 15 minutes, sometimes 30. Right now though, there's really no time. In my exhaustion yesterday, I overslept and now I have to catch up. I'm a senior associate, so the partners of the firm depend on me to ensure the quality of our writing. Thankfully, my junior associates are stepping up, but they're still a bit raw as lawyers. I'm sure things will get better by 2019 hehehe. My dream is to open a gun range, but that massage parlor idea is interesting as well haha. My country is known for its "massage" parlors so that wouldn't sit right with my wife. But a gun range/store is one of my dream businesses (apart from a sword forging/importing business). Neither will make me a lot of money, but they would really make me the happiest businessman alive. I already know the location I would put the range in (near the forges, so the noise would just be mixed together). Just need the capital for it. Yep, range has weekend hours, but it's 2 hrs away from home (I work 2 hrs away from home, go figure. Manila traffic means that 19km takes you 2 hrs to cover). There's an even better outdoor range 30 mins from where I live, but there's always a local shooting competition on the weekends. This is one reason I plan to get a full-sized 1911. I plan to start competing next year in the single stack division. S&W is pretty expensive. The distributor sells them around 3 times as much as you guys in the US would get them. A $400 M&P 2.0 compact is $1,200 brand new here. They also sell Rugers a little cheaper. The LCR 22 I'm looking at is around $700. We have local .32 ACP ammo but no hollowpoints (though you could argue that powder that weak makes FMJ viable defensive choices). Yeah, 9mm is the way to go but I'm just not sure if it's reliable in revolvers. Caleb Giddings mentioned that moon clips sometimes get warped and can jam up the revolver, and I trust him as much as anyone when talking about revolvers. We can reserve stuff, but for highly popular guns like the Shockwave, it's really a luck thing to be able to get one. I am on the list for the P365 though (we only get 50 units every 6 months so you can imagine it's hard to even be in the list), so I'll see if I can snag that anytime soon. In the meantime, the LCR is already available and it's just the matter of finding time to visit the store and pay.
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Post by bluetrain on Oct 17, 2018 9:40:30 GMT
S&W made one K-frame model revolver in 9mm. It didn't use clips but rather had a special extractor that handled the rimless cartridge (and which is difficult to explain). I had one and it worked fine. It was, I believe, a model 547, made with either a 3-inch or 4-inch barrel. There really isn't much advantage to it unless you have free ammunition.
In addition to the Ruger DA revolvers, they had and may still have a couple of single-action revolvers that come with two cylinders. There was one with a 9mm and a .357 cylinder and another one with a .45 ACP and a .45 Colt cylinder. The single-actions are rod ejected, of course, so no problem with rimless ammunition. Clips are only necessary in a revolver using rimless ammunition for ejection purposes, although there might be accuracy issues for those of you who shoot better than I do, which is no achievement.
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Post by tonystark on Oct 18, 2018 18:41:58 GMT
I did see advertised some presumably recently imported No.4 Lee-Enfield's but the price was on the high side. But Ruger No. 1's are stratospheric in price, though some other single-shot rifles, both imported and domestic, are even higher. Ruger rifles are beautifully made and all I have seen had really nice wood. I think some were made in .303 British, all of which were probably sold in Canada. If nothing else, Ruger tries to have something for everyone, at least for a while. I think Ruger made some DA revolvers in 9mm. Skeeter Skelton had one. I even saw one, either a service six or a speed six, chambered in .38 S&W (.38/200). Some old army manuals refer to that as the ".38 Regular." Hard to believe someone can't find .32 ACP. I thought that was available all over. Guess not. Don't know if there was ever a revolver chambered in .38 Super but in a revolver, a .357 magnum is more versatile. There have been some in 10mm. Not sure if you’ve seen the Ruger #1 (.450 Bushmaster) but it’s an awesome rifle, even though the price tag is around $1,200......but like you said Ruger does make quality firearms! Yes Ruger has an LCR in 9mm, but the .38 Super is on par the 9mm. I think you forget too that even though you and I can handle a .357 magnum, not everyone else can. So a .38 Super is better for them! 😉
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Post by bluetrain on Oct 18, 2018 19:32:02 GMT
Well, Elmer Keith said the .357 was for people with weak hands that can't handle a .44 magnum. In the February 1960 issue of Guns Magazine, he states that "For men with weak or small hands, lacking the strength to handle the big frame .44 Magnum gun and load, the Smith & Wesson Combat Magnum is a very good choice." Who am I to dispute Elmer Keith?
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Post by tonystark on Oct 19, 2018 18:14:53 GMT
Your mother sounds a lot like my own, though in an “intense and unstoppable inner strength” way and less of the law degree/political background. LOL. I keep picturing future children in the Philippines reading in their history books at school about how your mother led the people to give Duterte the big middle finger and get him not only ousted from Office, but prosecuted and imprisoned for his crimes against the very people he oppressed! Yeah sorry, I was always told growing up that I had a bit of an overactive imagination. I can’t help it, I’m a dreamer! Hahaha, maybe one day! I think Duterte will die from health issues before he gets ousted (he's maintaining popularity despite everything that's happening), but I also think that he woke up the educated youth, in that they need to be able to team up with the less privileged, help educate them on important national issues like economics, cronyism, corruption, sovereignty, and governance, and be a real political force with both numbers and intelligence. I always do this, actually. Sometimes I get in 15 minutes, sometimes 30. Right now though, there's really no time. In my exhaustion yesterday, I overslept and now I have to catch up. I'm a senior associate, so the partners of the firm depend on me to ensure the quality of our writing. Thankfully, my junior associates are stepping up, but they're still a bit raw as lawyers. I'm sure things will get better by 2019 hehehe. My dream is to open a gun range, but that massage parlor idea is interesting as well haha. My country is known for its "massage" parlors so that wouldn't sit right with my wife. But a gun range/store is one of my dream businesses (apart from a sword forging/importing business). Neither will make me a lot of money, but they would really make me the happiest businessman alive. I already know the location I would put the range in (near the forges, so the noise would just be mixed together). Just need the capital for it. Yep, range has weekend hours, but it's 2 hrs away from home (I work 2 hrs away from home, go figure. Manila traffic means that 19km takes you 2 hrs to cover). There's an even better outdoor range 30 mins from where I live, but there's always a local shooting competition on the weekends. This is one reason I plan to get a full-sized 1911. I plan to start competing next year in the single stack division. S&W is pretty expensive. The distributor sells them around 3 times as much as you guys in the US would get them. A $400 M&P 2.0 compact is $1,200 brand new here. They also sell Rugers a little cheaper. The LCR 22 I'm looking at is around $700. We have local .32 ACP ammo but no hollowpoints (though you could argue that powder that weak makes FMJ viable defensive choices). Yeah, 9mm is the way to go but I'm just not sure if it's reliable in revolvers. Caleb Giddings mentioned that moon clips sometimes get warped and can jam up the revolver, and I trust him as much as anyone when talking about revolvers. We can reserve stuff, but for highly popular guns like the Shockwave, it's really a luck thing to be able to get one. I am on the list for the P365 though (we only get 50 units every 6 months so you can imagine it's hard to even be in the list), so I'll see if I can snag that anytime soon. In the meantime, the LCR is already available and it's just the matter of finding time to visit the store and pay. I know exactly what you mean about him probably “outliving” any sort of ousting or impeachment, and if the awakened youth were to band together with the lower class they could present a united front against his tyranny, but it would be SO much more satisfying to see someone so twisted and evil get his comeuppance, and be prosecuted & judged by the very people he has persecuted and oppressed! Not to sound all melodramatic, but I’m sure it’s something everyone affected by his ill-gotten position thinks about often. Well I hope you’re feeling at least a little better, after having a little longer of a nap then usual, but it does suck that you have to catch up with where you are needed to be! I sincerely hope your Junior Associates advance faster to give you at least some more time to lock your door and dream of your gun range that just happens to be a respectable distance from the best massage parlor in all of the Philippines 😉 Yeah I definitely don’t want to get you in trouble with your wife! Well you certainly have an awesome idea, and the location of your gun/sword store would be perfect. I know I would work there in a heartbeat! LOL I fear the government might give you a hard time though, and I hope I’m wrong. Awww that really bites you have to drive so far for work, and that the ranges weekend hours are filled by competitions, but if I may add a bit of a silver lining, at least you can possess firearms and you have places to go shoot them! It could be worse, and guns could be banned from non-Law Enforcement use....right? I know that doesn’t exactly improve your situation, but it’s better than the way things could be. What caliber will you be competing in? Damn, even S&W is that expensive? How about Canik? I understand Caleb is very knowledgeable, shoot he talked me into obsessing about buying a Sig Nightmare Fastback 1911 (.357 Sig) that he reviewed the crap out of! But I have heard from multiple sources, Paul Harrell & M.A.C included, that the LCR chambered in 9mm is most effective. In Paul’s video he said the moon clips he used were fine, and didn’t mention anything about them warping. Hey, you have a P365 reserved, that’s great!! You and I have been eyeballing that one for over a year now. Watch Paul’s video on the 9mm revolver if you have a chance, or haven’t seen it yet. It’s chocked full of Harrell-goodness!
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Post by Croccifixio on Oct 20, 2018 6:16:57 GMT
I get email notifications (in my work email no less) whenever Paul publishes a new video and I drop everything and watch it. He's the only youtuber I do that for.
Well in that case I'll look for a 9mm LCR this coming gun show (there's one on November 5-8, and another on Nov 15-18). Hopefully it's not too expensive.
I'm planning to open my own law firm sometime in 2020, perhaps January. If I'm lucky, I'll get good, paying clients who will allow me the luxury of opening a separate business! I've studied the requirements of opening a gun store in a gun-restrictive country like mine, and it's not too bad actually. The range I go to earns very well from its gun tourism (foreigners, usually Japanese/Chinese/Korean pay around $30 to shoot 50 reloaded rounds). I plan to have that business model as well, but I'll go further and get more guns (they only have RIA 1911s and RIA MAPPs) like Glocks, Sigs, FNs, Caniks.
Speaking of Canik, I think they're more reasonable here than other guns. I saw a TP9 for around $700 retail, and I'm sure that will go down to maybe $600 during the gun show. Might consider getting one.
Funny anecdote: our military and police called for competitive bidding on a new handgun to replace their 45 ACP 1911s (my military friends wonder why, since they love their 45s and think of 9mm as police cartridges not designed to stop terrorists in battle). The ones who participated were Glock (through their local distributor) with the G17, RIA with the Tanfoglio Force 99, IWI with the 9mm Jericho but later on the BUL 9 Cherokee, Sig with the p320, and Beretta with its APX. Testing was pretty hardcore (the RIA was disqualified, for instance, for having 2 malfunctions at around the 15,500 round count - the test called for 20,000 straight without malfunctions).
In the end, the Glock 17 won out (of course, but they also underbid with $350 per unit that was lower than any other bid, as opposed to their normal retail price of $800). But then, the US stopped the importation of what would have been Glock's biggest single contract to date because of Duterte's human rights record. The army was happy, because that meant they kept their 45 acp 1911s. But due to this, the police had an emergency procurement, and bought Caniks to replace the Glocks. Interesting turn of events.
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Post by tonystark on Oct 22, 2018 3:39:31 GMT
Yeah I have notifications set up for Paul’s videos too, but only email, not cell phone like some people do. I read another 25-30 reviews on the 9mm LCR and they were all shining reviews! One guy mentioned crimp jumps, but quickly noted that it’d never happened to him it was just something he’d “heard” of happening. Weirdo! LOL I didn’t read about anyone having problems with the moon clips either, cause I remembered that was a concern of yours.
Well I hope both things work out for you, Law Firm AND Gun Store!! Both at the same time would be a huge strain on anyone, so you’re very wise taking one at-a-time 😉 See you’re like me, I’d research the crap out of local and state laws, just so that way when things work out and you’re ready to “pull the trigger” on opening your Gun Store there won’t be any unpleasant surprises. VERY smart! There are a lot of the gun rental type ranges stateside, and I’ve yet to see one struggle to stay open. I’m not sure how they do traffic-wise in your neck of the woods, but I should think they do a great business, knowing what citizens have to go through just to own or carry firearms! I can personally tell you that I had a Canik TP9SF Elite and LOVED it. Getting rid of it was a huge mistake on my part!
I’m not surprised in the least that your military favor the .45 It’s got a long-standing record of being effective in both World Wars, at-home military applications, and with local law enforcement agencies. It’s ironic that you mention the IWI brand cause I’ve been waiting for a steel Baby Eagle in either .40 or .45 to come back in stock for a while at any of the local gun stores. Caleb did a video recently on the Beretta APX Centurion, and that is a handgun that has been on the brain for me since it’s release. Other than his video I haven’t seen anyone review it which is a real shame. It’s an all around awesome gun.
You know WHY Glock underbid everyone else right? After Sig beat them in the US military trials they’ve been major league sore ever since! There’s no way in hell they’d lose to Sig again. Good, I’m glad Canik replaced their Glocks, and that the military got to keep their 1911’s!! 😉
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Post by Croccifixio on Oct 23, 2018 1:07:38 GMT
But Glock keeps losing its head to head against Sig in the various police and federal departments, I've noticed. Not sure why. Maybe they all just prefer the Sig trigger and grip angle.
I couldn't help myself. I just traded my Glock 19 for a 45 RIA Two Tone with upgraded sights and $350. The deal was too good for me, and I rarely use the Glock anyway ever since body carry became illegal. In the US that deal would be almost stealing, haha. I also used $180 of that money to buy a second-hand RIA MAPP FS in 9mm so it's like I got two good guns and $70 cash in exchange for the Glock. All in the span of 5 hrs yesterday. That's the problem with stress...
I'll still be looking for that LCR. Hopefully it'll be available come November.
All the IWI owners I know are just in love with their heavy guns. I'm sure you won't regret that baby eagle.
The Beretta is intriguing, but not enough to get me to buy one. Caleb has shot it at matches though. It's just another polymer gun, nothing fancy or different about it unlike the Px4. They should've made them compatible with glock holsters like the P10c.
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Post by tonystark on Oct 24, 2018 4:28:50 GMT
Who knows, maybe it’s because a Glock in the hand feels like you’re holding a 2x4 instead of a handgun 😆 Wow, that’s such an awesome deal you got, you must be so impatient to get to the range and light those bad boys up! Speaking of, tomorrow’s Ballistic Therapy will include my own hand-cannon from Rock Island, the RIA Ultra FS HC with 16+1 10mm flying downrange, followed by the S&W 629 (44Mag) and I got a 50 round box and a half of 240gr flatnose all ready to go. I filled up 6 - two gallon jugs of water as some reactionary targets! Seriously that was such an insanely awesome deal you got on both Rock Islands, but sometimes those impulse buy deals are situations you’ll NEVER come across again, so if you hadn’t gone for it you’d have been kicking yourself later on. I’m watching an LCR (9mm) myself cause I found one through some LE channels I still have for $450 which isn’t a bad price at all. I’ll keep that in mind about the Baby Eagle, thanks for the input! Yeah I’m not really “hyped” for the APX Centurion like I am for quite a few other handguns I’ve got my eye on, so I totally understand what you’re saying. I’ve been carrying the 509 since last week when I hit 600 ends through it, and I absolutely LOVE this gun! If you have the chance to snatch one up do it!!!
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Post by Croccifixio on Oct 24, 2018 18:22:47 GMT
The 509 seems to be the low-key actual best gun that went through the MHS trials.
Yeah i’ll get back to Blocks soon enough. It’s nice to have one. But the 19.5 MOS looks to be my dream gun.
I’m really excited! I plan to have my gunsmith mod the MAPP to accept better sights, cerakote it for a better finish, and do a trigger job and lessen that absurdly high pull weight (normally 10-15 lbs) to around 8/4 lbs in DA/SA. Will probably spend $200 on that but it will a much finer gun than my old stock Glock 19 at half the price. The Rock will stay stock (it already has fiber optics on) save maybe a slim magwell and will replace my current compact 1911. The compact will be sold/traded for something else.
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Post by tonystark on Oct 27, 2018 0:51:52 GMT
As much as I love my P320 I have to say (modularity aside) the 509 tops it hands down. The P320 is definitely easier for most people to conceal carry, but being 6ft tall gives me the ability to conceal what most people call “duty guns.” I’ve carried both Glock 20, 21, CZ P09 concealed for months, and when I’ve told guys I wasn’t carrying a Glock 19 they automatically assume I had a Glock 26 concealed. So my opinions on CCW guns aren’t always popular, or even possible, for a lot of gun owners 😕
The G19 MOS is one I’d recommend for someone looking to equip/carry something with an RMR, at least to start. I know a guy who has an H&K VP9 with a Trijicon RMR and it’s a pretty B.A combo!
I think even with the extra $200 in MOD’s on the MAPP FS you STILL got an awesome deal!! You have no idea how many deals I come across, after you and I talk on here, and it’ll literally be something we were *just* talking about, and I wish I could transfer these guns to you! After you and I were talking about you wanting a Shield in .45 I saw a brand new one, with night sights and 4 magazines for $425. Then you and I were talking about the Kimber micro 9’s, sure enough I saw a killer deal not 2 days later. SO infuriating! LOL Oh and how funny is it that right as we were talking about the LCR in 9mm Paul Harrell releases two videos on exactly that?? My suspicions are correct, he’s a wizard!! 😆
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Post by howler on Oct 27, 2018 1:08:16 GMT
As much as I love my P320 I have to say (modularity aside) the 509 tops it hands down. The P320 is definitely easier for most people to conceal carry, but being 6ft tall gives me the ability to conceal what most people call “duty guns.” I’ve carried both Glock 20, 21, CZ P09 concealed for months, and when I’ve told guys I wasn’t carrying a Glock 19 they automatically assume I had a Glock 26 concealed. So my opinions on CCW guns aren’t always popular, or even possible, for a lot of gun owners 😕 The G19 MOS is one I’d recommend for someone looking to equip/carry something with an RMR, at least to start. I know a guy who has an H&K VP9 with a Trijicon RMR and it’s a pretty B.A combo! I think even with the extra $200 in MOD’s on the MAPP FS you STILL got an awesome deal!! You have no idea how many deals I come across, after you and I talk on here, and it’ll literally be something we were *just* talking about, and I wish I could transfer these guns to you! After you and I were talking about you wanting a Shield in .45 I saw a brand new one, with night sights and 4 magazines for $425. Then you and I were talking about the Kimber micro 9’s, sure enough I saw a killer deal not 2 days later. SO infuriating! LOL Oh and how funny is it that right as we were talking about the LCR in 9mm Paul Harrell releases two videos on exactly that?? My suspicions are correct, he’s a wizard!! 😆 Definitely a golden age for firearms, both price & selection wise. AR type long arms are at rock bottom prices and some overseas companies have open up shop in America, giving me the opportunity to purchase an HK VP40 for $450 and VP9 for $500. Funny, a lot of companies (like Glock, for example) will chop off a half inch on the barrel and call it a "compact", but I just get the standard size. I'm watching the evolution of the Sig P365 very intently, as that small double stack magazine should have quite the impact on the rest of the handgun community.
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Post by bluetrain on Oct 27, 2018 11:36:50 GMT
I think that for concealment purposes, a shorter barrel makes no difference, except perhaps for a horizontal shoulder carry. A double stack magazine begins to make a difference only in .45 auto. Otherwise, pistols with double stack magazines are only a little thicker in the grip than a single stack magazine. Length of the grip is more important for concealment, I believe. A Browning Hi-Power, for instance, comes off as being a small pistol compared with many handguns today. Sadly, the Browning Hi-Power has gone out of production, though supposedly some are still available.
I'm still a believer in the Colt Government Model in any caliber. It is flat and not too big but it is noticeably heavy compared to just about any other pistol. A few full-size models were made in alloy but they came and went before I had one. But the lightweight Commander is a good choice and easy enough to shoot. I can't say the same for smaller models, however, if they are lightweight versions.
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Post by Croccifixio on Oct 28, 2018 12:20:20 GMT
As much as I love my P320 I have to say (modularity aside) the 509 tops it hands down. The P320 is definitely easier for most people to conceal carry, but being 6ft tall gives me the ability to conceal what most people call “duty guns.” I’ve carried both Glock 20, 21, CZ P09 concealed for months, and when I’ve told guys I wasn’t carrying a Glock 19 they automatically assume I had a Glock 26 concealed. So my opinions on CCW guns aren’t always popular, or even possible, for a lot of gun owners 😕 The G19 MOS is one I’d recommend for someone looking to equip/carry something with an RMR, at least to start. I know a guy who has an H&K VP9 with a Trijicon RMR and it’s a pretty B.A combo! I think even with the extra $200 in MOD’s on the MAPP FS you STILL got an awesome deal!! You have no idea how many deals I come across, after you and I talk on here, and it’ll literally be something we were *just* talking about, and I wish I could transfer these guns to you! After you and I were talking about you wanting a Shield in .45 I saw a brand new one, with night sights and 4 magazines for $425. Then you and I were talking about the Kimber micro 9’s, sure enough I saw a killer deal not 2 days later. SO infuriating! LOL Oh and how funny is it that right as we were talking about the LCR in 9mm Paul Harrell releases two videos on exactly that?? My suspicions are correct, he’s a wizard!! 😆 I think we all just watch the same videos and read the same things hahaha! I’m now looking at more DA/SA options, checking the size differences between the new XDE, the Rami, the Px4 subcompact, CZ P07 - mostly to see which I one can likely carry in which clothing configuration (suits, barong, and tshirts).
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Post by tonystark on Oct 29, 2018 4:08:28 GMT
As much as I love my P320 I have to say (modularity aside) the 509 tops it hands down. The P320 is definitely easier for most people to conceal carry, but being 6ft tall gives me the ability to conceal what most people call “duty guns.” I’ve carried both Glock 20, 21, CZ P09 concealed for months, and when I’ve told guys I wasn’t carrying a Glock 19 they automatically assume I had a Glock 26 concealed. So my opinions on CCW guns aren’t always popular, or even possible, for a lot of gun owners 😕 The G19 MOS is one I’d recommend for someone looking to equip/carry something with an RMR, at least to start. I know a guy who has an H&K VP9 with a Trijicon RMR and it’s a pretty B.A combo! I think even with the extra $200 in MOD’s on the MAPP FS you STILL got an awesome deal!! You have no idea how many deals I come across, after you and I talk on here, and it’ll literally be something we were *just* talking about, and I wish I could transfer these guns to you! After you and I were talking about you wanting a Shield in .45 I saw a brand new one, with night sights and 4 magazines for $425. Then you and I were talking about the Kimber micro 9’s, sure enough I saw a killer deal not 2 days later. SO infuriating! LOL Oh and how funny is it that right as we were talking about the LCR in 9mm Paul Harrell releases two videos on exactly that?? My suspicions are correct, he’s a wizard!! 😆 Definitely a golden age for firearms, both price & selection wise. AR type long arms are at rock bottom prices and some overseas companies have open up shop in America, giving me the opportunity to purchase an HK VP40 for $450 and VP9 for $500. Funny, a lot of companies (like Glock, for example) will chop off a half inch on the barrel and call it a "compact", but I just get the standard size. I'm watching the evolution of the Sig P365 very intently, as that small double stack magazine should have quite the impact on the rest of the handgun community. Absolutely! I’ve always been an AK guy (Russian ancestry and all) but I’ve never denied how great an AR is, and with the prices so low I’m very close to grabbing one. Wow great prices for H&K’s!! I like the VP9, they did a great job on it. Now that Sig is making the P365 with all the issues “fixed,” as long as you buy one with a May 18’ production date or later. I have an LE model on hold for $489 and as soon as it comes back in stock I’ll let you know if I’m seeing primer drag, or if the trigger spring decides to catastrophically fail 😅 I’m also waiting to see what the other gun manufacturers “response” to the P365 is as well!
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Post by tonystark on Oct 29, 2018 4:17:45 GMT
I think that for concealment purposes, a shorter barrel makes no difference, except perhaps for a horizontal shoulder carry. A double stack magazine begins to make a difference only in .45 auto. Otherwise, pistols with double stack magazines are only a little thicker in the grip than a single stack magazine. Length of the grip is more important for concealment, I believe. A Browning Hi-Power, for instance, comes off as being a small pistol compared with many handguns today. Sadly, the Browning Hi-Power has gone out of production, though supposedly some are still available. I'm still a believer in the Colt Government Model in any caliber. It is flat and not too big but it is noticeably heavy compared to just about any other pistol. A few full-size models were made in alloy but they came and went before I had one. But the lightweight Commander is a good choice and easy enough to shoot. I can't say the same for smaller models, however, if they are lightweight versions. I’ve carried full size Glocks (20, 21) before, so I agree that it’s not the barrel size that could really affect you adversely, but the grip length/thickness. What a shame the Hi-Power isn’t being made anymore! I’ve been watching their prices on Gunbroker, and they’re upwards of $750-$800 now. I wish I’d grabbed one even 5 years ago. Hindsight really is 20/20! I knew a few ex-cops that would carry Colt Defenders, both off duty, and full time after they retired. Colt makes fantastic 1911’s!
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