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Post by elbrittania39 on Sept 10, 2018 5:58:21 GMT
I'm looking to get a knife for practical defense. I recently moved to a big city and while I think I'm smart enough to stay out of trouble, I think a knife is a reasonable thing to carry on a daily basis anyway so I'd like to get one with some real self defense applications.
My main criteria is very concealable (I'd be carrying it to work) quickly accessible, no nonsense, and preferably under $100.
I've considered cold steels tilite, but I'm open to anything, including non folders. I also liked the look of cold steels luzon a lot, but its been sold out for months.
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Post by harrybeck on Sept 10, 2018 6:47:13 GMT
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Post by theophilus736 on Sept 10, 2018 7:55:52 GMT
Not sure what country you're in but you might want to check local ordinances regarding blade length. At least in the U.S. there is a prevailing mentality of larger city government that restricting knife length keeps law abiding citizens safer.
I would second the above suggestion. Something that can be a good stabber.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Sept 10, 2018 15:16:06 GMT
I like the usefulness of having a pocket knife, but hate the feeling of loaded down pockets or bulky belt accessories. My EDC is a Boker Plus Anti-Grav Knife. It has a ceramic blade and a carbon fiber handle, and is thus very light and unobtrusive.
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Post by harrybeck on Sept 10, 2018 15:52:04 GMT
Former cop, I know all about such laws. If you live in one of those cities , by and large, you're already screwed.
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 10, 2018 15:58:08 GMT
I like the usefulness of having a pocket knife, but hate the feeling of loaded down pockets or bulky belt accessories. My EDC is a Boker Plus Anti-Grav Knife. It has a ceramic blade and a carbon fiber handle, and is thus very light and unobtrusive. Whereas I carry three separate folding knives (one in either pocket, plus one in the fob pocket), a belt knife, and on the other side of my belt a multitool. That's when I'm not at work. When I am it's a folder in either pocket, my box cutter clipped to the outside of my right pocket, multitool and measuring tape on the right side of my belt, and my scanner on the left side. Oh, and a radio clipped to the right pocket above the box cutter. I also carry three pens (two fountain pens, one with an ultra-fine nib to write on some of the tiny signing we get, one with an extra fine nib for normal pen things, and a 0.5mm uh...I don't think it's ballpoint, but I don't know what it is; it's so old and worn all that's gone now. Anyway, I keep that one too loan out), a flashlight (Maglite XL100), a leather pouch full of change, a Zippo lighter, and just-because, a piece of polished labradorite. Oh, and my wallet and phone. As for the best knife for the request... I'm gonna be That Guy, the party pooper, the one who says "a knife is a terrible self-defense tool that is more likely to get you into even more trouble than to save you from anything." Knives are very useful tools. I carry multiple because each one has a different role. I do not recommend, and personally would avoid to the greatest extent, employing a knife in a "defensive" situation. A knife, as a weapon, is strictly offensive. Most jurisdictions hold them as such. Depending where you are, you'll have an easier time calling "self-defense" while holding a smoking gun with an empty magazine than a knife. Improvised weapons are another story, but the folks who need canes to get around have enough problems dealing with security wherever they go...
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Post by bluetrain on Sept 10, 2018 16:06:21 GMT
Nobody suggesting the classic switchblade? Might be hard to find a good one since Army-Navy stores no longer seem to exist.
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Post by wlewisiii on Sept 10, 2018 16:28:11 GMT
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Post by solaris on Sept 10, 2018 17:43:07 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Sept 10, 2018 18:03:25 GMT
I understand a EDC knife, I carry two but not for defence. For that I carry a stick in the form of a cane. Lately it’s been a Buffalo Horn cane. Ya I started carrying it again and am considering some ring mesh.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 18:19:00 GMT
Auto knives are ok to carry here in RI but the maximum blade length of 3 1/2" for folders or otf still remains the case.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Sept 10, 2018 18:28:15 GMT
Nothing matches the CS Black Talon II for horrific biomechanical slashing. A 6 inch ti lite is good for winter clothes and can be used like a rondel, but it is not good for quickdraw. The Rajah II is even more betterest, but it's more than most people are willing to carry.
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Post by bebut on Sept 11, 2018 23:40:30 GMT
Lotta Spyderco fans out there. I haven't made it yet but it is on my to do list. Currently have a metal pen. Yes, check your laws and grin and bear it. For example, L.A. County is 2 inch blade limit, L.A. City is a generous 2 1/2 inch, both are folding only. Az is a free state, but that doesn't mean you won't get stopped and questioned, or find out how much stuff is Federal property, skool zone, etc.
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Post by theophilus736 on Sept 12, 2018 0:52:57 GMT
All of my daily carries were Spyderco up until the last three months. The new one was on sale
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 1:24:29 GMT
A knife I carried for some time and is currently at arms length is an Al Mar ultralight eagle talon. While they can still be found at around that $100, there are plenty of thin alternatives out there and some listed so far are examples. I don't walk around with that eagle anymore, more to my uses than worry about being stopped but I would be breaking the law in RI. In a tacklebox, or not on my person, no problem.
Fixed blades had been what I stowed in a boot or belt when considering defense but that was forty years ago in a very different enviroment.
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Post by Ifrit on Sept 12, 2018 2:05:16 GMT
Until it was taken away from me, I carried the Cold Steel Ti-Lite 6. It was a fantastic knife. I found that the deployment was quite fast, with either the wave function or even just flicking it while pushing the thumb stud. My only complaint is the thumb stud could have been bigger, and that I wish the grip had a more noticeable swell.
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Post by Richard Arias on Sept 12, 2018 2:05:58 GMT
I'm looking to get a knife for practical defense. I recently moved to a big city and while I think I'm smart enough to stay out of trouble, I think a knife is a reasonable thing to carry on a daily basis anyway so I'd like to get one with some real self defense applications. My main criteria is very concealable (I'd be carrying it to work) quickly accessible, no nonsense, and preferably under $100. I've considered cold steels tilite, but I'm open to anything, including non folders. I also liked the look of cold steels luzon a lot, but its been sold out for months. I have carried the TI Lite. Its okay but a little thick and the blade can slide open and poke you once its broke in... The thing you have to realize is that whether or not it was a life or death situation before you pull your weapon it will be after. So you dont pull a knife to wave it around or Scare anyone. You pull it to stab someone. Whatever you chose it has to be deployed quickly and you have to practice this at home at least 20mins a day in your chosen carry place so that pulling your knife feels as natural as signing your name on a check. You keep your knife low once drawn and the motion should be as smooth and small as possible. Human eyes track motion so some big silly grab for a knife can get you killed. Another thing to realise is cuts and slashes make people bleed but thrusts and stabs end fights. With compression from a stab a 3in blade can get deep and pierce organs. But in many cases be aware that wounds you inflict below the waste have a better chance of being argued as assult and not attempted murder. And wounds below the belt can be equally effective. Same rule applies with guns work cuts or stabs in 3's and dont count on just one. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XSY6SWS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1My first budget pick. Small, Conseals easy, light, fast, and budget friendly. Its not perfect but it's a nice grab and stab knife. People forget that movies mislead people to how and why switch blades were so popular and that is because of my earlier mentioned point that it they could he taken out, kept low and opened with a button press. The TI lite is trying to be the stealth stabber the switch blade was.... But it doesn't quite get there. If you do your homework right your would be attacker should not even know you have a knife until they are bleeding. www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Endura4-Plain-Folding-Knife/dp/B001CZDNVU/ref=sr_1_4?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1536716148&sr=1-4&keywords=Spyderco+Endura Better quality build more solid but more than twice the cash. I carried one for a few years but actually went to the Kershaw when I lost the Spyderco when a friend was arrested and a nice friendly cop kept it after a pat down. I would rather have the Kershaw and pay for a sharpen to a shaving edge. A self defense knife isn't a utility knife. And extreme sharpness can make up for almost any gap in quality when your talking about a grab and stab on a would be attacker. Because no matter the outcome you will lose your toy. You might lose it the way people lose car keys... So Im sorry for your IOU ( Intent of Use) I would not touch $100.
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Post by Ifrit on Sept 12, 2018 2:08:32 GMT
You can actually tighten the nut that holds the blade. I always preferred mine to have a bit of friction
I agree with the rest of what you have said. I tried use the Ti-Lite for utility, and it doesn't do that very well. Utility will get way more use out of any knife you carry. I feel a cold steel walking stick is a better choice for defense in most cases, as its not hard to wack someone on the head. But killing someone is something that would stick with you for a while
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Based on experiences I recently had, another reason I prefer a bludgeon for self defense is that how much more willing you would be to wack someone. Sure, it might not stop them the first time, but with knives, you are basically in a stand off, waiting to find an opening to use it, or wrestling and trying to make sure it isn't used on you. A knife works best as a first action. It is kind of poo for defense. So unless you frequently walk into shady allies (where you are willing to randomly stab at everything that scares you/comes near to you), I suggest a walking stick.... Unless you challenge them to a knife fight. But knives are way more likely to get you in trouble, so I don't recommend it
All this just came to me, and I felt it was worth sharing
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In an open space, foot work can help you evade more and could make any weapon a bit more useful, but one thing training doesn't really prepare you for is how fast you can tire out when pumping adrenaline. You don't have that same fear of being killed when you train. So in a way, training does help by making you more athletic so that you can last longer, but it can give false ideas too. Unskilled opponents are not always unskilled fighters, and fighting with knives is still fighting. So a buff idiot can still tire you out if you aren't fit. And when it comes to a lot of hoodlums, at least in my area, they bike and walk everywhere, so they aren't exactly out of shape. Many work out too, especially if they just came from prison
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Post by El Chingon on Sept 12, 2018 2:22:49 GMT
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Post by Ifrit on Sept 12, 2018 2:28:20 GMT
Pretty sure everyone recommended a knife. Not sure what you're going on about
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