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Post by hiaran on Aug 26, 2018 15:54:06 GMT
Greetings, I recently bought my first sword for training, this one, and after a month of usage, mainly doing some cuts and swings in the air about 30 mins per day, I started to hear a 'clicking' sound, as if something was loose in the hilt. I'm fairly certains it's the grip, as it's hearable, when I try to twist it, but even after checking some sites and posts about it, I'm not entirely sure how to fix it properly, as it has a nut and is peened. I tried the trick with the oil (2 times) pouring it down the tang through the crossguard, without much success. My question is, should I give it a few whacks, like in this guide, or try sliding in epoxy? I planned to try out the number one first, as I seem to remember that the nut wasn't this loose as show on the pics, when the sword shipped, but can I hammer down a nut? Using the guide, should I grind out the wooden block to have a hole a bit wider than the nut and then smack it down too at the end or should I remove the nut first (whick I'm not entirely sure how)? Or should I straight up use epoxy? Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I'm new to this and couldn't find any explanation for a sword with a nut and peening. A bit scared of damaging the sword Attachments:
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Post by Bryan Heff on Aug 26, 2018 16:41:34 GMT
When you say "nut"...are you talking about the peen block? That pyramid shaped thingy resting on the pommel? It the sword is truly peened then the peen block is just a piece of metal the essentially rests on the pommel and is held in place by the peen.
If that is the situation and its loose, then I would recommend you whack it several times with a ball-peen hammer, hit right on the peen itself, that little squarish bit of metal in the middle, that should tighten things back up again. You will make some marks on the area you hit though. Basically little divots, but that is normal and if the marks bother you can always sand or grind them away and clean it up.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Aug 27, 2018 17:11:57 GMT
When you say "nut"...are you talking about the peen block? That pyramid shaped thingy resting on the pommel? It the sword is truly peened then the peen block is just a piece of metal the essentially rests on the pommel and is held in place by the peen. If that is the situation and its loose, then I would recommend you whack it several times with a ball-peen hammer, hit right on the peen itself, that little squarish bit of metal in the middle, that should tighten things back up again. You will make some marks on the area you hit though. Basically little divots, but that is normal and if the marks bother you can always sand or grind them away and clean it up. + Please secure the sword in a vice before striking it with a hammer.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 28, 2018 2:06:11 GMT
YES, secure the sword in a vise first, then give it a whack or two, or...
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Post by hiaran on Aug 28, 2018 5:22:44 GMT
Yeah, I was talking about the peen block (so what actually is the nut? a screw in the pommel or something like that?). I will try that. Marks don't bother me at all, it's all about functionality. Thanks for the answer, I will update this, if I still have some problems
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Post by thedarksider on Aug 28, 2018 12:16:56 GMT
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Aug 28, 2018 12:38:25 GMT
On the Cas Iberia site they say only "hot-peened".
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Post by hiaran on Sept 5, 2018 13:14:54 GMT
Little update (sorry that so late, but couldn't find a ball-peen hammer anywhere in my vicinity - had to order it online xd)
I secured my sword in a vice and gave it a few whacks, but didn't help. Maybe the wooden inside of the grip got too loosened up through my training? Or maybe it was epoxied to the begin with and the glue came off?
So or so, should I now try to pour some epoxy into the sword hilt, like into the space on the pictures, or try something else?
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Post by solaris on Sept 5, 2018 15:06:23 GMT
I spoke to the gentleman who owns and runs Arms and Armor about his methods, he uses a nut, and peens.
He tightens down the nut to torque spec, and then peens over the threaded portion. Essentially, you are getting a completely mechanically locked nut, by way of the peen. Best of both worlds..
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Post by thedarksider on Sept 5, 2018 15:18:29 GMT
I spoke to the gentleman who owns and runs Arms and Armor about his methods, he uses a nut, and peens.
He tightens down the nut to torque spec, and then peens over the threaded portion. Essentially, you are getting a completely mechanically locked nut, by way of the peen. Best of both worlds..
Oh wow, ok. I never knew that, clever idea. Thanks for the info, happy to learn something new every day. ,
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Post by Alan Schiff on Sept 5, 2018 18:09:33 GMT
When Kult of Athena mentions a "nut" in the description of this sword, they appear to be referring to the peen block, which would not be threaded onto the tang (in this case it's clear because the block follows the curvature of the pommel, which would be difficult, if not impossible, to incorporate on an actual nut). That being the case, you should be able to tighten it up by hitting the peen until it is tight again. They also mention there is a piece between the guard and grip that helps secure the guard to the tang, so that may be what is keeping it from tightening fully. I'd suggest trying the peen again, sometimes it takes a bit of work to get it perfectly tight. You don't have to hit it that hard, it's just a matter of moving enough material to fill the required area.
IMO I don't think epoxy would work well in this scenario. The space between the blade and guard slot just isn't very large and I don't think you'll get enough in there to make much difference.
Hope that helps, Alan
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