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Post by voidec on Aug 5, 2018 5:46:46 GMT
1. I always wanted a reproduction WW2 Shin Gunto. The one I really wanted was the Hanwei Captain or Major's Gunto but those are like impossible to acquire. I recently came across this on swordnarmory and I was wondering is it worth getting? www.swordnarmory.com/new/handmade-t10-steel-wwii-type-98-gunto-japanese-officer-katana-sword-sharp-blade/ 2. Simon Lee Tamahagane Katanas Level 3A and 5A. Came across these on ebay was wondering if this guy is legit and if I should bother picking one up. 3. Kaneie and Huanuo: what are the deal with these swords, how come everyone wants one? Anything special with their Tamahagane lines? Where would I be able to get one? I live in the US.
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Post by stormmaster on Aug 5, 2018 5:50:56 GMT
you could get a decent ww2 gunto for alittle bit more then the price for these reproductions
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 5, 2018 11:41:55 GMT
IMHO, "Chinese tamahagane" is, at best, simply well-folded backyard smelter steel, not made in the same way, or from the same materials as real Japanese tamahagane, and not worth paying (especially not worth paying extra) for. For slicing with and looking at, good, well-folded (12-16 folds), single billet ("maru"), differentially water quenched ("clay-tempered") Chinese-made katana forged from folded 1095/T10 are as good as anyone needs, and can be had for no more than $300. I got all of mine for around half that.
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Post by voidec on Aug 5, 2018 15:43:08 GMT
even if it's from a brand like Dynasty Forge or Kaneie?
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Post by kaiyo on Aug 5, 2018 16:24:45 GMT
Swordnarmory*s own brand is nothing special, decent swords stay away from chinese tamahagane, like treeslicer mentioned its not the same, Kaneie is the closest thing to a real Nihonto, they are worth the money... even if they are rare i would go with the Hanwei Gunto, good replica/blade for a decent price, maybe you can try this: www.opticsplanet.com/cas-hanwei-yasukuni-captains-gunto-sword.html
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Post by voidec on Aug 5, 2018 18:10:27 GMT
I thought that was out of stock and discontinued
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 5, 2018 18:35:58 GMT
I thought that was out of stock and discontinued $729?? You can get a real gunto for that.
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Post by voidec on Aug 5, 2018 18:49:18 GMT
I thought that was out of stock and discontinued $729?? You can get a real gunto for that. From where??? Maybe the machine made guntos
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 6, 2018 0:08:34 GMT
$729?? You can get a real gunto for that. From where??? Maybe the machine made guntos OK, the prices have gone ballistic, so forget the "Buy it Now"'s and,
2). Since you're already shopping for what amount to fakes, decide if you really need an already assembled gunto, of if you are willing to assemble one from original parts, then,
3). Start searches on eBay, and go after the auctions until you get what you want.
My advice, anyway. I can't comprehend why anyone would want a reproduction gunto in the first place.
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Post by voidec on Aug 6, 2018 0:24:35 GMT
Good point
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Post by kintaro on Aug 6, 2018 1:22:54 GMT
@ voidec
As treeslicer said, this gunto is cheaper than the cheapest Dysnaty Forge katana from the tamahagane line of products: daimyo_class_tamahagane
Any chinese made blade at that price range doesn't worth it.
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Post by voidec on Aug 6, 2018 2:27:06 GMT
Thanks for providing that
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 6, 2018 2:52:38 GMT
What kintaro linked you to at Aoi is about as good (quality wise) as it gets, with a starting bid of $2245.61 at the current exchange rate. Tells you what the top of the real gunto market looks like, leaving out historically important pieces.
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Post by voidec on Aug 6, 2018 4:35:46 GMT
are those gunto's assembled piece by piece or was that how it was found or preserved after the war?
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Post by Verity on Aug 6, 2018 4:52:07 GMT
are those gunto's assembled piece by piece or was that how it was found or preserved after the war? this particular blade from Aoi is the latter. The entire sword was still intact.
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Post by voidec on Aug 6, 2018 15:49:17 GMT
Prices for That is lower than I expected. I thought from a collectors standpoint gunto are more desirable than katanas
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 6, 2018 16:41:05 GMT
Prices for That is lower than I expected. I thought from a collectors standpoint gunto are more desirable than katanas That depends on the collector. Militaria collectors (who will pay outrageous prices for obscure items like uniform components and vehicle parts, etc.) are mostly interested in gunto, rather than Japanese swords overall. Nihonto collectors, until very recently, avoided gunto as they would a mangy dog, damning them all as showato. Since the nihonto collectors discovered that some gunto were traditionally made, and had been legally registered under the Japanese Gun and Sword Law all along, they have increasingly bought them as gunto, rather than as blades to be stripped and reclothed.
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Post by Verity on Aug 6, 2018 16:46:57 GMT
Prices for That is lower than I expected. I thought from a collectors standpoint gunto are more desirable than katanas That depends on the collector. Militaria collectors (who will pay outrageous prices for obscure items like uniform components and vehicle parts, etc.) are mostly interested in gunto, rather than Japanese swords overall. Nihonto collectors, until very recently, avoided gunto as they would a mangy dog, damning them all as showato. Since the nihonto collectors discovered that some gunto were traditionally made, and had been legally registered under the Japanese Gun and Sword Law all along, they have increasingly bought them as gunto, rather than as blades to be stripped and reclothed. yep. Emura and similar wartime smiths command a pretty penny. I personally have seen an Emura in person and the skill was every bit as good as Shinto master smiths.
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 6, 2018 16:56:25 GMT
That depends on the collector. Militaria collectors (who will pay outrageous prices for obscure items like uniform components and vehicle parts, etc.) are mostly interested in gunto, rather than Japanese swords overall. Nihonto collectors, until very recently, avoided gunto as they would a mangy dog, damning them all as showato. Since the nihonto collectors discovered that some gunto were traditionally made, and had been legally registered under the Japanese Gun and Sword Law all along, they have increasingly bought them as gunto, rather than as blades to be stripped and reclothed. yep. Emura and similar wartime smiths command a pretty penny. I personally have seen an Emura in person and the skill was every bit as good as Shinto master smiths. Emura's considered good, IMHO, but the prices for some Yasukune Shrine blades will rattle your teeth. The aura of respectability seems to be slowly extending to anything having a sho-shin mei and a visible hamon, and causing a major rise in prices for Showa blades, including such peripheral examples as Koa-Isshin Mantetsu-to and Takayama-to.
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Post by Verity on Aug 6, 2018 17:00:40 GMT
yep. Emura and similar wartime smiths command a pretty penny. I personally have seen an Emura in person and the skill was every bit as good as Shinto master smiths. Emura's considered good, IMHO, but the prices for some Yasukune Shrine blades will rattle your teeth. The aura of respectability seems to be slowly extending to anything having a sho-shin mei and a visible hamon, and causing a major rise in prices for Showa blades, including such peripheral examples as Koa-Isshin Mantetsu-to and Takayama-to. yes, but it also starts distracting collectors away from those older blades. Leaving more for me! Mwahahahahaha! 😈
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